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Quote# 116727



Priya Kishna, Vegan Artbook 6 Comments [2/11/2016 5:22:59 PM]
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Quote# 116724



Priya Kishna, Vegan Artbook 5 Comments [2/11/2016 5:22:39 PM]
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Quote# 116722

[on a gay kid being shot for being openly day and dressing like a female ]


My god, that's like something from an action movie. The fact that he you know, walked out all calm. Disgusting that he showed little or no remorse, though if he showed remorse he wouldn't have done it in the first place.

Maybe he was drunk or in a odd state of mind =D. When I'm drunk I smash bottles and well... try to hit people with them, and unless my friends stop me, then I would probably hit someone.

I'm not going to lie, by the sounds of it, the way that guy was acting. The fact that he was so openly gay at that age, and coming to school dressed that way is; as someone stated before, basically making himself a bully magnet. Though killing him wasn't necessarily the BEST way to resolve things, if someone had have just bashed him or something he might have come to his senses.

School is no place to freely express your homosexuality. Especially not to the extreme of painting your nails pink. You'd get absolutely smashed where I live for doing that =p.
It could have been worse, He might have made it to Senior School (High School, w.e Americans call it) and got totally smashed he probably would have suffered a long and painful death, like an American guy suffered who was attending University of California.

He got bashed, then strapped to a pole and left for death, he later died.


Not to mention the bad and cruel 'harmless jokes' that the seniors play on the new kids (whatever the lame word they use for that is).

Ok, You may be gay, but with the pressure being put on in American schools. Why would anyone want to. I don't really think people shouldn't openly gay, they just should maybe wait until they're out of school, and the world is more open and you're not forced to go to school. etc.

[Last time i check people had the right to express themselves without being hated upon. I could walk down the street with my piercings in, wearing all black and my hair as emo as i could possibly make it and not be disturbed by anyone. A gangsta could wear his skin tight shirts and nike hats and any other stereotypical piece of clothing and not have anything happen to him.]


This is a world of racism, violence and god only knows what other shit happens in this world. I was never said "Oh my, he should never wear pink nails because im going to pull a gun out of my backpack and shoot him"; I said that he could have avoided the conflict by not having the pink nails. Oh, I'm sure he is going to be absolutely disheartened because he can't wear his pretty pink nails - As said one million times, by doing so he bought it upon himself!

I'm not defending the kid, nor standing up for him, I'm taking the viewpoint of both sides.

This is NOT what I would do to the kid if he wore pink nails in front of me. It's what the citizens of the world would do to him, and as you can see, he was murdered for it! It may not necessarily have been the pink nails.

It doesn't just happen in America; you try walking through Surfers Paradise on a Friday night with pink nails and gay clothes, You would more than likely get bottled, glassed or stabbed. It's happened before.

It's almost a way of life, there's ways to avoid it and this kid didn't do it. Sure he has a right to express himself, though who would express themself when there's a chance you will get bashed, or worse; murdered.


He obviously wasn't afraid to dress like he did, and he paid the ultimate consequence. Yeah he lives in an apparent "Free Nation", yet he still died, by saying such things you're only criticizing your own country.

He doesn't have to stop being gay to avoid the conflict, he simply has to stop dressing the way he was, not painting his nails pink, and saying to people they have a "Nice ass".

snoopy, Silk Road Online Forums 2 Comments [2/11/2016 5:22:04 PM]
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Quote# 116721

on a child named Larry who was murdered by a classmate for being openly gay

[At 8:30 a.m., a half hour into class, Brandon quietly stood up. Then, without anyone's noticing, he removed a handgun that he had somehow sneaked to school, aimed it at Larry's head, and fired a single shot. Boldrin, who was across the room looking at another student's work, spun around. "Brandon, what the hell are you doing!" she screamed. Brandon fired at Larry a second time, tossed the gun on the ground and calmly walked through the classroom door. ]


The first time I read that I laughed, hard. Hard and long tbh.

anyway, I'm not going to say 'oh, what a tragedy! This could have been prevented' blah blah, it isn't a tragedy. The kid was an idiot, did he deserve to die? Probably not, but I personally am not going to feel sorry about it.

Who the fuc.k does that, in school of all places. Just as bad as emo **** or goths, if you don't want attention or harm brought to yourself then get a fuc.king grip and dress normally. If you can't say something constructive or interesting, don't say anything at all. Wait til after school is out to do whatever you want if it makes you happy.
In my school they would've kicked him out made him go home until he got a new look, they've sent girls home for having spaghetti straps on ffs, school isn't the place for this shit.

No, I'm not prejudice against gays either. I have two friends, one male and one female who are bisexual, good for them. If the guy went to school like that I'd kick his ass myself before someone else did.
btw, having a bisexual friend whom is female is sooo nice, just thought I'd add that in here ;-).

Guess I'll contradict myself a little here but, I don't know if they were born that way.. don't really care either, if they are born that way.. that would also mean that pedophiles are born that way also wouldn't it?
That's a scary thought imo. I'd like baro to comment on this if he would.


Mousetrap, SilkRoad Forums 2 Comments [2/11/2016 5:21:51 PM]
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Quote# 116720

["While I get this, you are advocating doxxing and that’s not cool. The rest of it, however..."]

Oh, doxxing is so cool — it’s the only way to really stop @h0les like this who ‘haven’t broken any laws yet, ma’am’ — and that’s exactly the response they’ll get in far too many US PD/SOs.

Blacksheep1, Daily Kos 3 Comments [2/11/2016 5:21:28 PM]
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Quote# 116719

Logic for #HolocaustMemorialDay and #FeelTheBern



Steven Crowder, Twitter 7 Comments [2/11/2016 5:19:48 PM]
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Quote# 116717

Question to #SJW #Feminists



Steven Crowder, Twitter 3 Comments [2/11/2016 5:19:29 PM]
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Quote# 116712

Hi Gaybo, "you clearly said you are not gay" doesn't mean you are telling the truth. Studies has shown that Criminals like you don't ever admit they are criminals until they are cut red handed. Insecurities over men like you faking their fellow men? Nahhh You are obviously confused. People like you will defend sleeping with their blood sisters because it now happen in the western world. You have been defending the gay act and insulting your father land for not accepting gays because the USA now accept it. I also lectured you on why we are not obligated to imitate the western world on everything and you became angry. If you continue with steady anal sex you will need Diapals like the Pics I sent you above and you can't go to the hospital to complain because na the nurse go stab you by herself. Can't imagine a Grown up man like you will take off his boxers for a fellow man to Fck him. Tufiakwa. If you can't change then remain in your closet because if you are caught men go beat you die oh. I warn you again Gaybo.

andy48, Nairaland 2 Comments [2/11/2016 5:18:48 PM]
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Submitted By: TimeToTurn
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Quote# 116703

By his grace, I have been in this path for the past five years as a deliverance minister and have come across so many demons, big, small, fearful, etc. and God has always been victorious.

I may not be able to help everyone here, but God willing and by his grace. i have been sent to help somebody, and that somebody may be you that is reading and have some of the under mentioned case and you are looking for a way forward:

1. Working like an Elephant and eating like an Ant
2. Disappointment at the edge of breakthrough.
3. Business failure.
4. Promise and fail.
5. Marital delay.
6. Rotating in one spot.
7. Inability to conceive
8. Struggling without positive result.
9. Seeing children in your dream but not in life.
10. Wedding in the dream but still single and having delay.
11. Eating in your dream
12. Making Love in the dream
13. Swimming in your dream.
14. Seeing yourself in your old compound/house in your dream.
15. Seeing yourself in your old school/ father’s house in your dream.
16. Seeing yourself picking snail in your dream.
17. Seeing yourself chased by masquerades in your dream.
18. Seeing yourself chased by dogs/cats, etc.

[...]

Deliverance from spirit husband / wife, Zero sperm count to 20 Million, stagnation, 25yrs ear problem, Spirit of madness, etc

U need deliverance? Let us talk and the God of Elijah will deliver you in Jesus name.

servantofGod2, Nairaland 3 Comments [2/11/2016 5:18:43 PM]
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Submitted By: TimeToTurn
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Quote# 116701

On Sunday, February 7, 2016, a dead child was allegedly raised back to life at the Mountain Miracle and Liberation Ministries, a.k.a Liberation City.

The occurrence which was like a scene from a Nollywood movie left everyone in the church stunned. The 6-month old child said to have been ill for weeks was brought to the church by her parents for prayers. Unfortunately, the child gave up the ghost as soon as they arrived the church.

Her frantic parents eventually wept and pushed their way through to the podium where the man of God, Dr. Chris Okafor, ministered to other people, and he immediately took the child from them and prayed fervently. Then he dropped the child on the altar and commanded her spirit to come back and the child moved! The congregation exploded in tumultuous praise as the child continued to move and even later drank some water!

Dr. Chris Okafor, NAIJ.com 7 Comments [2/11/2016 5:17:10 PM]
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Quote# 116698

Without a doubt whatsoever, Mr. David J. Stewart's website called http://www.jesus-is-savior.com is the BEST website that has EVER at ANY point in time been placed on the internet. NO OTHER WEBSITE can compare to the outright scholarly work of Mr. David J. Stewart. Mr. Stewart's website is arguably the best Christ honouring website that has EVER been displayed on the internet. Mr. Stewart is one of my personal heroes, and I am not only saddened, but enraged, when I see so much slanderous talk out there against the mighty Bible preacher, David J. Stewart.

Darien Santiago, David J. Stewart Defended 5 Comments [2/11/2016 5:16:53 PM]
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Quote# 116697

[This fundie tweets about an LA times article that quotes Cecile Richards saying Women often can't "just find another healthcare provider" and not funding them will lead to consequences.]

Pssst. Babies are not a "devistating consequence."

O. Alan Noble, Twitter 23 Comments [2/11/2016 3:45:29 AM]
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Submitted By: AJ Williams
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Quote# 116689



White people are scared and embarrassed. Their skin is literally being destroyed daily and before their and our very eyes by The Sun. With skin “cancer” and melanoma rates sky rocketing, however, in May, Western Science was forced to report to it’s millions of drones that a skin “cancer” and Melanoma epidemic does exist.

[...]

The condition that people of color can get is not the same as that that Caucasians are prone to; and, when proper intake of Ultraviolet Light is performed by people of color, they enable their bodies and minds (senses, epidermises, immune suppression systems and mental faculties) with not only protection from the Lakes of Fires destroying the flesh and faculties of mankind, but also enable the gifts associated with it.

utravioletholocaust, Ultraviolet Light Holocaust 19 Comments [2/11/2016 3:44:34 AM]
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Quote# 116688

It is a perfectly valid argument simply because - as I've just pointed out in my previous post - the two side of the debate are starting from hugely differenct understandings of reality. Is naturalistic science and its thinking, the sole arbiter of reality - or is reality broader, more multi-faceted than 'mere' naturalism? Without an answer to that conundrum, no-one will be able to claim an argumentative 'victory'.


Sorry, jeremy, when atheists and non-believers make categorical statements and assertions, as many here do, believers here are just as entitled to request evidence to support those statements as non-believers are of believers. Furthermore, whilst documentary evidence of what Christians believe remain on the table of public accessibility, that evidence has to be shown to be wrong. Arguing the case that it could be wrong, or might be wrong, yet without providing evidence of that case, doesn't hold water.

Hope, Religion and Ethics 14 Comments [2/11/2016 3:44:12 AM]
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Quote# 116687

Sounds like someone is a bit mad. How about you shut the fuck up about how entitled you are, and Christians have never been a protected group in the US. And for the record, no one gives a shit about sodomite marriage, it's degeneracy and is such a small issue only soccer moms, lesbians and leftists care about.

Kauthar, Nationstates 17 Comments [2/11/2016 3:43:07 AM]
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Submitted By: zyr
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Quote# 116682

Satan is the true source of “global warming”.

But the argument continues to be wrongly framed. Satan does not work through the medium of men to induce global warming, the earth itself is cracked open at various locations and the internal heat of the core of the earth is permitted to escape. This by itself is neither good or bad, the planet is simply obeying physical imperatives laid down with Creation itself.

Satan’s function is to introduce the notion in the minds of some men, that this natural course of events, which was proceeding according to existing physical laws which govern the Universe, was somehow caused by mankind, and that mankind, being evil by nature anyway, should accept the blame.

Now men, being the sort of beings that will freely draw upon mythological explanations of anything they do not fully understand (and what man has EVER fully understood anything?), making up some sort of fanciful rationalization as to WHY something happens, without all, or even very many, of the facts known. For thousands of years, men believed fervently in witchcraft, and would persecute and murder anybody they thought engaged in it, especially if the perceived outcome seemed to bring harm to another. This is sometimes recognized for what it is, succumbing to the platitudes of superstition.

Global warming myths are just another form of persecution for witchcraft, dressed up with newer rationalizations, but devoid of sufficient critical thinking to make an even partially correct assumption.

Climate change “deniers” are simply the newest class of persecuted individuals to be ravished and kicked around by the mob of superstitious men.

Alloysteel, Free Republic 23 Comments [2/10/2016 4:24:51 AM]
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Submitted By: Ivurm
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Quote# 116681

Atheist techies are pothead degenerates

Neil deGRASS

Lately people have been noticing that the world’s biggest baal earth promoter, Neil deGrass Tyson, aside from being an affirmative-action hymie-weird-style hyped up mythical supanigga from da hood, is obstreperously a pothead. Somewhere in the haze of his bizarre homilies to his ancestral slavemason, Isaac Newton, deGRASS gets the munchies and gorges his fat ass on stardust pizza.

Carl Sagan

It surely doesn’t bother atheists/wankers that the founder of all their billyuns and billyuns, the host of the whole cosmos PBS series that dominated the public’s junk metaphysics for a generation, the poasterboy of slavemason science(fiction) Carl Sagan (a pharasitic surname that means pot maker, haw haw), was a totally-stoned, braindead kyke who heavily promoted THC use in his lifetime.

Sagan had extensive knowledge of the plant through his own use, and credits its use with awakening a deeper understanding within him. In 1969 Sagan penned an essay under the pseudonym Mr. X, concluding that “the illegality of cannabis is outrageous, an impediment to full utilization of a drug which helps produce the serenity and insight, sensitivity and fellowship so desperately needed in this increasingly dangerous world.”

Bill Gates

This guy isn’t only a dope and a total fraud who knows nothing about computers, he’s a crypto-pharasite obsessed with cutting the dicks of every brown baby on the planet. When looking over the filth that is modern science, pornocracy, and general ZOG malaise, it’s hard to find a degenerate more infectious and insidious than Bill Gates – and it’s hard to imagine that they’re something else yet wrong with this demonic freak – he’s a pothead.

Steve Jobs

Could there ever be a more kosher, queer and utterly useless hero of atheist lore? And yup, he was stoned the whole time.

Einswine

Though Einswine smoked a lot of other stuff, they say “probably not weed”. But at the very least he was an inbreeding pedophile pervert. (He told the cousin he was marrying that her underage daughter was hot and wanted to eff her/marry her instead). He was the posterboy for a theory he plagiarized and had his cousin/wife write a paper on, relativity. This theory only exists to explain why another theory, gravity, doesn’t work. And gravity was invented to explain why copernican lucifer-centrism doesn’t work. And I guess Copernicus (a mason) made up the heliocentric idea because he 1) loved lucifer and 2) wanted to enslave the masses with misinformation as the freemasons dictate. Gravitation, relativity, and the einstein hoax that continues to propel the “G” motto of enslavement through disinfo. Oneball said,

"Pipe smoking contributes to a somewhat calm and objective judgment of human affairs."

So sayeth the “sage”. To date, this author has seen zero evidence that Einswine has ever done anything remotely useful in the field of science that could be said to help us understand the real world. He invented nothing, just went around stumping anything that moved – or stayed home stroking his violin and sucking a pipe if he couldn’t find a place to rub his scar of david.

Richard Feynman

Wanker hero Dick Feignman helped Einswine feign the A-bomb – and he sucked mexifags.

Stephen Jay Gould

Another pharasite and dinohoaxer. God gave it cancer, and it started smoking lots of pot.

Sogay Brin

Sogay, known for crossdressing in college, is a geek atheist idol, tech-age monopolist and a bongboy.

With article names like “7 Successful, Famous, Cannabis-Smoking Geniuses“, “6 Famous Geniuses You Didn’t Know Were Perverts“, “The 10 Smartest Pot Smokers on the Planet… Cool Enough to Admit It“, referenced above, you have to wonder if any of these modern role models have any merit to them at all.

Something that rarely occurs to the golem sheeple is that, if your intellectual heroes are 1) a drooling, withered wheelchair jockey, a 2) a plagiarizing, filthy pervert pharisee who gave birth to two retards, couldn’t speak english after 30 years in the USSA and thinks he invented the atomic bomb, a 3) dick slicing, pothead jewbag who can’t use a terminal but thinks he’s a programmer, 4) a cotton-picking, pear-head affirmative action project, a 5) child raping, nagging ZOG thought policeman, a 6) dopey, doobage-brained dweeb who rambles on about billyuns and billyuns, a 7) GRIDS-infested pharasitic “nerd” who also can’t use a terminal and invented nothing (and all of the above being choses, except for number one)….then stop wanking and wake up to the life-affirming sciences of your chaste and benevolent teachers of traditional religion. Chastity frees you from the chains of kosher science, the whores of zog bankers, and allows you to realize who the real geniuses are.

OM and Amen

Janoklark, Knights of Banjo Hollow 35 Comments [2/10/2016 4:24:44 AM]
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Quote# 116679

ThePUAMole;

The war is over: the feminists have defeated the PUAs

Look at the scoreboard, guys: the PUAs (even the good ones) are down thirty points.

You can't stop feminism because the world runs on sex. Interestingly, this means that, just as men argued over how to rule the world in the past, with the women on the sidelines, the opposite will be the case now, except to the extent that the women attempt to recruit men, which is of course unsustainable, as there's little reward for the men other than not being destroyed, and for that they can just go MGTOW.

Nihilism+;

Well look at you, being all smart and shit.

Actually nope, sorry. Still retarded and autistic. PUAs and Feminists are incahoots with one another, its as clear as day. The chicks who are on PUA infield videos? Pretty sure they are paid actresses who also more than likely post feminist blogs dissing men and wanting to rule the world as well. Cycle goes like this:

Incel pays money for PUA shit------>Incel tries PUA shit but gets buried by feminists--------->feminists posts about PUAs (who they are secretly dating) to get the PUA network's name out------->PUAs attack feminists to get the feminists name out------->incel on the feminists side now side with PUAs cuz they feel betrayed by feminists false advice to white knight chicks into bed with them----->incel pays money for PUA shit.

And on and on. Its a vicious cycle man.

Feminists, PUAs and Chads will rule everything in a number of years. Its only a matter of time. Anyone with any belief that even strays one degree from PUAism or Feminism will be crushed decisively.

ThePUAMole & Nihilism+, Sluthate.com 14 Comments [2/10/2016 4:24:09 AM]
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Submitted By: Ivurm
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Quote# 116678

imagine if a bunch of men's right advocates crashed some feminist rally and bought a bunch of 300lb UFC fighters with them to teach them not to divorce rape.... how much crying and screaming in the newspapers there would be....

ALPHAMOG, Sluthate.com 29 Comments [2/10/2016 4:23:24 AM]
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Submitted By: Ivurm
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Quote# 116677

[ oh dear, what makes you so sure that gay couples are unfit parents?do you know many kids with gay parents?what bad examples? ]

They make unfit parents because their kids would become gay. They set a bad example by saying it's ok for boys to jack off other boys. Feminine men set bad examples because males need to act manly most of the time. If homos marry each other, then the population will drop, and guys like me will have an even harder time getting a girl. It's hard enough competing with other guys without having to compete with girls too.


[why?and exactly what is "manly" to you ? ]

Manly is acting tough, and not taking jobs as stylists or similar things. Manly is also fantisizing about women instead of men.
There are certain things boys must do in order to keep from getting mocked for their whole childhood. Adulthood is a little easier. There is acceptable behavior that people look for, and anyone being too different will be harmed mentally and phisically. Everyone gets picked on, but you don't want to give them extra ammo.

[ but, it's the bullies that's the problem, not the boys being teased.why should the bullied ones change, they are not the ones doing stuff wrong. ]

They wouldn't get bullied as much if they were more normal.

[ ell, black people wouldn'r be as harassed if they were less black, that does not make being black a bad thing.what's your point?that you should not be allowed to be who you are, if it is not what in your eyes qualify as "normal" ]

Homosexuality can be helped. Race can't.

[ 1: let's say you have a son, he's grown up and doesn't live with you anymore. one day he comes to visit you, with him is another young man, your son tells you it's his boyfriend, that they love eachother and are planning to move in together.
what do you do?
]

If my teaching had failed, and he turned out to be gay, then I just wouldn't interact with him anymore. There might be certain emergencies that I would help him with, but I wouldn't like him anymore.

On another note, if I came to my parents with any girl that wasn't caucasion (sp?), they would disown me. I guess I get that from them.

[ wow, and you call homosexuals unfit parents...that is an awful thing for a parent to do.what if he was like 16, still living at home? ]

I'd send him to a psychiatrist, or find another solution.

[ 2: let's say in the future you marry a woman.
you love eachother and have children.
one day your wife tells you that she's realized she's bisexuel. what do you do?
]

It would be very strange, and I may not look at her the same way again. I'd stick with her for the kids though.
Yes, I believe life experience can cause people to become gay. I'm not blaming my inability to get girls solely on gays. I'm just saying it's a factor.Why are all of you so liberal? Isn't there anything completely anacceptable to you? Sodomy just happens to be my thing.I'm not totally rebelious, so some of my parents opinions are important to me.
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chad, Zelda Universe 29 Comments [2/10/2016 4:22:59 AM]
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Quote# 116674

[So what you're saying is God has time to blow the leaves out of your yard, but no time at all to help kidnap victims or starving children?

God: Oh, sounds like Scooby is praying to me! He doesn't want to rake the leaves. I know I'll blow them out of the yard, and then he can lie to his dad about doing the job himself. Hmmm... wait a minute, a little girl has been kidnapped and is about to be murdered? She's praying for my help... which do I help... which do I help.... I think I'll help Scooby.]



Haha, I know it sounds crazy. I wouldn't say God doesn't want to help everyone, but there is free will, which allows people to do bad things. Just because they happen doesn't mean God wills it to happen. He doesn't want it to happen at all, but earth is a place for learning, and through pain people learn lessons, which effect the universal consciousness of us all in hopes that we will learn to prevent those things to happen. Just like a parent doesn't want their child to get hurt, the child will experience life and through pain learn a lesson to avoid that in the future. It's part of life and learning. Do you get upset when a carnivore kills it's prey? It's the circle of life and nature.

Check out this for the purpose of life, this will be helpful:

http://www.near-death.com/science/research/life.html

Of the info from Edgar Cayce about the purpose of life:

http://www.near-death.com/paranormal/edg...igins.html

scoobysnack, AtheistForums.org 13 Comments [2/10/2016 4:13:58 AM]
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Submitted By: Stimbo
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Quote# 116673

[You are equating thinking that it will rain, if you say it won't rain with negative thinking. That's more than a little silly.]


It's about focusing on what you want, not what you don't want. Whatever you focus on will manifest in some way or emotion, so it's best to stay positive, rather than focusing on what you don't want to influence your life. Kind of comes down to the confirmation bias.

Not that anyone will take this seriously, but I still remember the day my dad told me rake the leaves from the front lawn when I got home from school. I didn't want to, so started watching TV after school. I actually prayed which I don't normally do that I wouldn't have to rake the leaves. In the next 30 minutes the wind really picked up and blew all the leaves off the front lawn.

I'm not saying you can control the weather, but a positive attitude goes a long way to achieving your goals. You will be less likely to become discouraged and give up.

scoobysnack, AtheistForums.org 7 Comments [2/10/2016 4:13:50 AM]
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Submitted By: Stimbo
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Quote# 116672

afchief:
The ACA is garbage!!! Why should others be forced to pay for people's healthcare. You are not entitled to other's labor. That is theft! Nothing is free in life. WORK FOR IT!!!

BarkingDawg:
"For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me."

afchief:
Please do not quote scripture that you have NO idea what it means!!!!!

We Christians are to "willfully" give from our hearts. Not the forceful hand of government to take by force.

Helping your fellow man in need by reaching into your own pocket is praiseworthy and noble (the Christian way).

Helping your fellow man in need by reaching into someone else's pocket is worthy of condemnation (government stealing)

gizmo23:
So why don't Christians solve these problems?

afchief:
Why? Jeremiah 17:9 (NASB) “The heart is more deceitful than all else
And is desperately sick; Who can understand it?

When people would come to our church for handouts, we would offer them a job first. Nine times out of 10 people would turn down the job and just want food and/or money.

We Christians believe in personal accountability and responsibility. Take away welfare and food stamps and people will be forced to work. With that said, I have no problem with the government helping out the people who are physically and mentally incapable of working. Welfare and food stamps should NOT last a life time.

Ambulance Chaser:
So, you're saying it would be wrong to pass laws to make American society agree with the Bible?

afchief:
Your point?

Ambulance Chaser:
I want to know whether or not you think it's wrong to pass laws that would compel America to agree with the Bible. I didn't stutter.

afchief:
Be specific! What laws are you talking about?

Ambulance Chaser:
Wait, there are some Biblical requirements you think should be enacted into law and some you don't? Why?

afchief:
What? You are making no sense as usual. What biblical requirements?

afchief, Christiannews.net 37 Comments [2/9/2016 4:21:08 AM]
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Quote# 116668

When failure to embrace what the scientific establishment currently believes in cases where it can produce no conclusive evidence results in a witch-hunt, the cause of true science is not served.

Recently, Christina Wilkinson, of St Andrew’s Church of England school in Oswaldtwistle, Lancashire, came under fire for falling out of step with orthodoxy on the issue of the origins of life.

The Guardian reports that Wilkinson tweeted in response to London headteacher Tom Sherrington who urged teachers to stick to science when teaching young minds where life comes from: “Evolution is not a fact. That’s why it’s called a theory! There’s more evidence that the Bible is true.”

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Wilkinson is correct – at least in the first part of her initial statement: evolution is, objectively, a theory. It may be treated by the scientific establishment as a fact, but that does not make it one.

Theories – like thought experiments – have a place. The realm of theory is where the mind goes for an after-dinner glass of port and cigar and stretches out in a leather armchair in front of the fire and blows a few what-if-scenario smoke-rings around the sitting-room.

But scientific methods are where the evidence comes in. What such methods have in common is that conclusions are based on observation and experimentation. While exact methods vary depending on the field, the constant is: you can check; the findings are demonstrable and repeatable. This is what distinguishes law from theory.

Reputable, genuine scientists use both systems – and the world is much improved as a result.

The problem comes when those who presume to speak for science forget the distinction between theory and law, and simply attack those who have not forgotten it.

The secular priest Richard Dawkins chimed in that Wilkinson was misusing the word theory.

“Scientists call evolution a theory only in a special scientists’ sense, which is NOT the same as the layman’s ‘tentative hypothesis’,” he said.

He continued: “This is so often misunderstood that I now recommend abandoning the confusing word ‘theory’ altogether for the case of evolution. Evolution is a fact, as securely attested as any fact in science. ‘We are cousins of monkeys and kangaroos’ can be asserted with as much confidence as ‘Our planet orbits the sun’.”

I am not here interested in the rightness or otherwise of Dawkins’ assertions. My point is that theories do not cease to be theories simply because Richard Dawkins recommends that they not be seen as such. There is either empirical evidence, or there isn’t. And if there isn’t, Dawkins’ “recommendations” should not interest us if our allegiance is to science and its methods, rather than to Mr. Dawkins and his recommendations.


Sam Gerrans and Christina Wilkinson, Russia Today 29 Comments [2/9/2016 4:04:45 AM]
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The head of the Russian Orthodox Church has partially blamed an increased acceptance of homosexuality for the rise of Isis.

Patriarch Kirill claimed he was not surprised that some Muslims are flocking to Isis' quasi-religious state as a way of escaping the “godless civilization” that celebrates events such as Gay Pride.

In an interview published on the Church’s official website, Kirill said: “[Isis] is creating a civilization that is new by comparison to the established one that is godless, secular and even radical in its secularism.”

“We can have parades for the sexual minorities - that is supported - but a million French Christian protestors defending family values are broken up by police,” he added.

Kiril said because the “godless civilization is reaching maturity”, it should come as no surprise that those who are opposed to liberal, secular ideas end up joining terror organisations.

“If you call non-traditional relationships a sin, as the Bible teaches and you are a priest or pastor, then you risk not only your ability to serve but you may be sent to prison,” he said.

Patriarch Kirill of Moscow, The Independent 26 Comments [2/9/2016 4:03:46 AM]
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