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Quote# 104863

It’s important to understand that even though atheists and agnostics can be “moral,” they have no ultimate authoritative basis for their morality. When an atheist or agnostic calls something “right” or “wrong” or “good” or “evil,” they are borrowing from a biblical worldview in order to make that statement. Think about it: If we are simply the by-product of evolution and no better than animals, then why should anyone behave morally? In that case, what or who defines right from wrong? Ultimately, this kind of thinking leads to “everyone doing what is right in his own eyes” (Judges 21:25), which is exactly where our culture is rapidly sliding.

Ken Ham, Around The World with Ken Ham 28 Comments [11/23/2014 4:48:53 AM]
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Quote# 104862

Our 17-year-old daughter's friend announced on Facebook that he has rejected God & is now practicing wicca. Is wicca considered part of the occult? We are very upset because our family has had problems with curses, etc. being placed on us by homosexual neighbors in the past. These had to be broken by a priest. We don't want to have to deal with anything like this ever again. Thank you for your help.


MegaSchultz, catholic answer forums 36 Comments [11/23/2014 4:45:56 AM]
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Quote# 104859

“How pathetic to believe that a personal God would intervene in a school test while letting children in Africa starve and die of Ebola.” Rich Latta

Here are ten things to do to be an atheist:

1. Deny the Book of Genesis--which explains that we live in a “fallen” creation—evidenced by disease, pain, suffering and death. Then complain about how God (who you believe doesn't exist) allows disease, pain, suffering and death.

2. Expect God to feed starving children, while humanity spend trillions of dollars (that could feed starving children) on war, porn, gambling, entertainment, etc., as well as on space exploration--trying to find out what the Book of Genesis already tells us.

3. Ignore the Bible’s instructions on how to contain infectious diseases through quarantine, and complain when it spreads.

4. Believe the scientific impossibility that nothing created everything, and then crown yourself intelligent for believing the impossible.

5. Believe the insanity that nothing is actually something. Then give yourself another intelligence crown.

6. Believe atheist sites that tell you that Einstein, Lincoln, Carl Sagan, Mark Twain and many others were atheists when in truth none of them were so foolish as to embrace atheism.

7. Regularly have fellowship with other atheists to strengthen your faith and to tell each other that you have no beliefs.

8. Go to Christian sites and push your narrow-minded and unthinking views on strangers, as though you were some sort of religious zealot.

9. Sin your wicked little heart out and “enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season,” because in your own mind you have dealt with God and the consequences of sin.

10. Don’t read the book, “You Can Lead an Atheist to Evidence But You Can’t Make Him Think.”

Ray Comfort, Facebook 35 Comments [11/23/2014 4:45:23 AM]
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Quote# 104858

Loss of morality comes hand and hand with socialism. Once people accept the concept that they deserve something they have not worked for, every other rationalization of moral character is easily rationalized.
As soon as the human ego can rationalize that it is acceptable to forcefully take the fruits of another's labor due to some sort of vain sense of entitlement, then all other crime is also subject to rationalization under that standard.
There was once a culture in this country in which people truly believed that charity was shameful and that a person paid for charity with their human self respect.
Today peoples behavior is only kept in check to the degree that they believe they will be caught and punished for a crime.
It all boils down to peoples vanity and the belief that they are somehow entitled to something which they themselves have not created, or earned.
Al Pacino did a movie some years ago in which he portrayed Satan, at the end of the movie he had a line in which he said that vanity was his favorite sin, the meaning being that vanity or the feeling of entitlement of something unearned is the cornerstone of all other sins, and the downfall of every civilization.

jimhcom, City Data 16 Comments [11/23/2014 4:45:11 AM]
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Quote# 104856

As part of our continuing effort to educate the masses, we'd like remind people that as we move into the flu season it is important to remember the origin of all disease and illness. Some people believe that germs cause disease. That is simply not true. All diseases are caused by nothing other than sin. Before sin there was no death or disease. The fact that sin brings disease is just one more reason why women should never be considered equal to men for it was Eve that sinned first, not Adam.

Disciples of the New Dawn, Facebook comments 23 Comments [11/23/2014 4:44:57 AM]
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Quote# 104855

I came across this Asian guy who was talking to a white girl. The sight of that filled me with rage. I always felt as if white girls thought less of me because I was half-Asian, but then I see this white girl at the party talking to a full-blooded Asian. I never had that kind of attention from a white girl! And white girls are the only girls I'm attracted to, especially the blondes. How could an ugly Asian attract the attention of a white girl, while a beautiful Eurasian like myself never had any attention from them? I thought with rage. I glared at them for a bit, and then decided I had been insulted enough. I angrily walked toward them and bumped the Asian guy aside, trying to act cocky and arrogant to both the boy and the girl. My drunken state got the better of me, and I almost fell over to the floor after a few minutes of this. They said something along the lines that I was very drunk and that I needed to get some water, so I angrily left them and went out to the front yard, where the main partying happened. Rage fumed inside me as I realized that I just walked away from that confrontation, so I rushed back into the house and spitefully insulted the Asian before walking outside again.


Elliot Rodger, My Twisted World 30 Comments [11/23/2014 4:41:37 AM]
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Quote# 104850

Let me just weigh in here with an absolute. Homosexuality is absolutely wrong. It is absolutely sinful, and it is not to be promoted or tolerated.

The school has no business encouraging any type perverted sexuality or sexual act. That is specifically, homosexuality, bestiality, necrophilia, pedophilia, incest, adultery, rape or fornication. Those of us who have a basic understanding of godly principles understand relatively well how DESTRUCTIVE and HARMFUL perverted lifestyle choices actually are. Not only do they invoke the wrath of God, (HIV, syphilis, gonorrhrea, chlamydia, etc), but sexual perversion destroys marriages, which in turn decimates a healthy family structure, which in fact leads to structurally and morally unsound community.

Also, for those who don't understand that homosexual acts DO in fact change a child or person that is heterosexual, I will correct you by informing you that there are literally THOUSANDS of homosexuals who share that the reason that they are currently practicing homosexuality and or suffering under homosexual urges is because of sexual abuse and molestation committed against them by other homosexual adults AND HOMOSEXUAL CHILDREN. When these types of acts are committed during a child's sexually formative years, a child who is growing up naturally as a heterosexual suffers a sexual mutation into homosexuality. That is a fact that is often exploited by homosexual offenders who have an appetite for more homosexual partners.

So before the ungodly, immoral, sexually depraved liberals of the world think they have any kind of valid points, try working with children who are bleeding due to the sexual abuse that they have suffered from older homosexuals. Talk the to the men and women who have been raped by same sex offenders. If they survive the attacks, they are often deeply depressed and suicidal due to the horrible, destructive nature of the offense. If we are to be truly humane and decent, we can't ignore this truth for the sake of any heavily weighted, lopsided argument favoring the homosexual lifestyle.

Homosexuality is a beastly and demonic spirit. It is not harmless. And it is absolutely not simply a matter of "opinion." Finally, should you be a nonbeliever who chooses to spit hatred and anger, vitriol and lies at me because of this post, let me tell you that I expect it. What else can the world offer by vileness and evil, violence and hatred? I EXPECT the worst of you.

Constance Oftruth, Rolling Stone 15 Comments [11/23/2014 4:41:02 AM]
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Quote# 104849

I read books by Tolkien, Terry Brooks and many, many others, including my favorite author of all, Marilyn Zimmer Bradley. I hit the jackpot with her books. There must have been 50 or more to choose from. I could read to my heart's content - to the tune of 3-5 a week. Her characters inhabited a planet very similar to Earth. However, some had psychic powers. The characters that had no powers were afraid of those that did - even though their powers were used to help others for the most part. Sound familiar? Those that had the most power could call up "beings" that increased their power further.

These books were fiction, fantasy, completely removed from my real world. Yet I found them very compelling. I couldn't wait to read the next book in the series. I found myself thinking about them even when I wasn't reading. After a while, I started dreaming about them. The dreams started changing, and the characters from my dreams started talking to me. After a couple of days of that, I didn't need to be asleep to hear them.

That was my very first clue that something was wrong. I had been reading "magic" books for over a decade with absolutely no ill effects. If someone had asked me whether there was a conflict between reading fantasy and my Christian faith, I would have said, "Of course not! This is fiction, not reality!"

I cried out to God to help me, and He did. The voices stopped. Like I said, I was no Bible scholar, but I recognized that the voices were from Satan. Some people have said that I became delusional because I couldn't separate fantasy from reality. That was not the problem. The problem was that I COULD, and that I had no idea that reading something obviously fictional could put me in contact with REAL evil.

I can't prove that it was really a demon talking to me, but I never read that kind of book for fun again. On the contrary, I began reading God's Word and dedicated myself to knowing HIM better. I had always considered myself a Christian, but I realize that I was a spiritual infant at best. I shudder to think what would have happened if I had not gotten off the path I was on.

I read the Harry Potter books - not for enjoyment, but so that I could talk intelligently to people who loved them. As I did, I could feel a "tug" on my spirit. I can recognize that "tug" for what it is - Satan tempting me to immerse myself in the story, to go back to the way I was.

Jacqui Komschlies, Crossroad.to 23 Comments [11/23/2014 4:40:51 AM]
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Quote# 104848


Just to note, I'm not judging anyone by making this post or trying to act overly religious. Applies to me as well. This is reminder like every other one that I felt required a whole post on it's own due to the prevalence of it. If you are a person who involves themselves in any of these forms of entertainment, please don't be rude about what I have to say.


A large portion of Muslims today still engage in entertaining themselves with haram entertainment and I wanted to have a look at each form explaining why we should stay away from it.

1) Movies

Probably the most viewed form of entertainment out of all them. The whole purpose of movies is to make you forget about your life and just enjoy fiction for a while. The problem here is that people start to lose focus of why they are here by involving themselves with movies to much. We are here to win our Akhira and enjoy as much as possible there. If we spend most of time wasting it on fantasies which are pointless and just pass time, then we will regret it heavily later when we see how much lower our rank in Jannah is by losing out on all those good deeds we could have done.

It is the nature of entertainment media to choose attractive men and women, which immediately negates the modesty required of a Muslim. We should always be lowering our gazes whenever we see someone of great attractiveness since they could induce evil thoughts. It would be pointless to spend half the movie lowering the gaze every now and then.

Then there's obviously the filthy behavior that is being displayed in the movies. Free mixing and zina and partying and zina and foul language and zina and free mixing and all the filthy things you can think of. Young people will start to feel like they are missing out on all the fun of interacting with the opposite gender by watching these movies thinking "What's the worst that could happen?"

Animated movies and "movies for kids" are something terrible as well. Don't be fooled by the "child friendly" approach they try to show you. Small little drops of fitna are poured here and there all over the movie. Let's take "Frozen" for example. A kids movie which grossed over a billion dollars which released last year. Story about a girl who was going to get married to a guy. Has family issues with psycho sister. Guy was evil. Goes for another guy. Happy ending. Seems pretty nice. But it's not.
Subliminally in the story, while this girl was going to marry one man, she travels alone with another man for the sister issues part of the movie, and starts to fall in love with him. But oh dear, they can't be together since she's supposed to marry another man, so obviously the script decides to make him evil, giving her the green light to jump on to the other guy. And the audience is supposed to think this whole thing was ok.

This sort of freemixing showcased in movies shows exactly why we shouldn't be watching them. This was a kids movie that too. Had it been an 18+ movie or real life, we know what major sin they most likely would have done while they were simply travelling together. Then another kids movie made a character homosexual for no reason. Kids growing up to that will think "Gay people are funny and nice ".

2) TV shows

Majority of the reasons have already been stated but TV shows have their own special problem.

More length = More time wasted over years and years.

Then there's the fact that the most popular shows like How I met your mother and FRIENDS revolve around friends committing zina without anything that moves that gives consent all in the name of "Searching for true love". Yes, you want to know you love someone, so you go around committing zina. What's worse is that in their freemixing between themselves as friends, these characters fall in love with each other and commit zina.

And then shows like Game of Thrones showcasing more nudity that the adult industry would be proud of with a side serving of sexual perversions like incest, orgies and other sick things.

Breaking bad? Adulterous wife.

The Walking dead? Adulterous wife.

House of Cards? Adulterous everything.

Entourage? Let's not even talk about it.

And the list goes on and on when it comes to filthy things being displayed on these shows.

It's as if they make the script saying "Hey Louie! This not enough zina in this season. Make this woman an adulteress. We need dem ratings!!" "Sure thing, Franky!"

3) Music

I don't understand why women themselves support the music industry when so many songs and music videos treat women like objects. Last year there was a music video which had completely naked women with fully suited men. In an interview, the woman said that "sometimes a girl just needs to have a little fun with her body". And later that year, Lady Gaga decided to perform a song completely naked. And all sorts of indecent things happen when music is involved. Look at bars and clubs, a place where music is played when men and women just rub themselves against each other which they couldn't do without music ("Bikini is ok on the beach but not in buildings" effect) they have a one night stand and never meet again. This goes completely against the dignity of a human being.

Furthermore, music plays in our head throughout the day if we listen to it. We lose concentration now and then because a song was playing in our head. This could happen when we are in Salah and ruin our kushoo.

Then there's the fact that people lose their minds over the artists. One Direction, Bieber and the rest. Causing people to lose their mind and act so irrationally. Willing to cut themselves for their sake. The worst part being that these celebrities don't even care about them back.

Then there's the fact that majority of songs encourage zina and acts that lead to it. And then there's the fact that so many filthy words are included in these songs.

4) Video Games

While this one hurts the most for me to say, Video games are probably the worst out of all these things. Rasulullah mentioned that people who make images are amongst the worst creations of Allah . Would you pay money for a person who murders? For a rapist? For a thief? Paying money for video games is support for the haram that these people are doing.

Furthermore, video games contains all the problems of all other forms of entertainment.

Music, violence, nudity, foul language, excessive time waste, forgetting Dunya and everything else.

Studies have also shown that playing video games can increase agitation in people. It also makes people more lazy, wanting to sit in one place for hours just watching a screen. Getting annoyed when they are called away for something else.




What many of us don't know is that these things can directly change our imaan. Everything we expose ourselves to can influence we act and think. But we refuse to believe that simply because it is entertainment. Think of all the bad thoughts and ideas that have been put in our minds because of exposing ourselves to these things. It could have been one TV show episode that brought us this much closer to the idea of being ok with zina. The most dangerous thought you can have is "It's not going to happen to me. I can control myself"

We should all keep in mind that whatever we give up for Allah He will give you something better. We could be throwing away so much happiness which lasts forever for extremely temporary happiness. Think about it....aren't we all still going to be sad and depressed about some problem or another even after watching movies, tv shows, listening to music and playing games? Then what was the point of them besides wasting time? In the long run we just lose time and money. Most importantly we lose the immense rewards that we can get for leaving these acts which we will ALWAYS be happy about.

we should try our best to leave these acts for the happiness of Allah and become the best Muslims we can possibly be

Abdur Raheem, Ummah.com 15 Comments [11/23/2014 4:39:58 AM]
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Quote# 104847

Men and women must dress separately and live separately, to keep from prostitution. The bible would not approve of women in the army, and the taxpayers who pay for the expenses of training only to see a woman relieved of duty before battle because she is pregnant don't approve, either. The entire area of men and women working together all day in offices is a situation that can only lead to trouble, and it does. The feminist surge to be like men, dress like them and go where they go has destroyed family. The recent mayoral inauguration in New York City featured a past mayor with his paramour and the new mayor with his daughter. There were no wives. Most Americans, 51%, are not married, and of first marriages, half end in divorce. Men are marrying later than ever, and women who work and marry later in life have difficulty having children, because fertility problems begin with age 27 and intensify very much in the late thirties. Thus, the mixture of men and women destroys society and women. When New York City first integrated its police force, in every case where a lovely young thing cruised with a man, the man divorced his wife and maintained a relationship with his partner. This report is hard to believe, but it isn't unlikely. The only way to protect family is to keep men away from women. It is precisely the complete abandon of biblical barriers between men and women that has turned male/female sexuality into a trial and difficulty for so many couples, and has turned many people to despair, homosexuality and even autoeroticism, masturbation for men and vibrators for women. The despair of normal gender relationships drives people to pornography and pedophilia, as well as other perversion.

Today, with the chaos of sexuality, there are men who want to be woman. They dress as women and insist on using the lady's restroom. Some have surgery whereby they remove the male organ and cut a hole for the female cavity. Such people sin when they wear the clothes of women, and certainly if they do so to attract men.

As sad and as evil these deeds are, people don't look for them. Society by breaking the family is responsible. A society where people in the fifties know they may be fired when their global company downsizes is a society of fear and instability. Family cannot function in fear. A society that pressures a woman to go to college, establish herself professionally, and only then think about her womanly needs, is a society where many women do not marry, and those who do often marry too late for children. Every woman, from the time she is old enough to think about life, realizes that she is running the gamut. Her fears and anger are multiplied by the social freedom given to men to take a woman, use her, and spit her out. This leads to gender hate, and raising children who are not men and not women.

A society that refuses to accept that a woman is different than a man, and a man is different than a woman, that a boy is different than a girl, and a girl is different than a boy produces men and women who are confused and perverse. Our American society is the first society in history to truly violate the bonds of gender, and we are the first generation in history to have so many pupils in public school from fine Caucasian homes coming to school and mass murdering, that our schools are patrolled as if they were airplanes.

Rabbi David Eidensohn, Jewish Gender, Marriage and Sexuality  11 Comments [11/23/2014 4:39:46 AM]
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Quote# 104844

in the messianic age of Saturn, we will be able to change our physical appearance.

still trying to figure how it would work...
DNA is encoded light, so I think perhaps with the fully activated pineal crystal (refer you to my thread "operation light to the nations") it would be possible to "shed" light using our pineal to manipulate our DNA from the inside.
or it would be a different method all together, where actual crystals are used to beam light onto a person, and alter his genetic structure from the inside.

one thing I know for certainty, drinking the waters that will flow out of the third temple will change our appearance, and improve it... to some degree, nothing too serious though.

the real major changes will happen through light dna manipulation.

all Torah divine technology, no poisonous evasive genetic science.

since the messianic age is basically making up for the time we were supposed to spend in the garden of eden.
and Adam and Eve were the most beautiful humans to walk on earth, and we are degraded copies of copies of copies x2000 of Adam and Eve.
we will gain the knowledge of restoring or DNA to adam and eve state...

it is G-d's will that his creations will be perfect and happy.

Anonymous Coward, Godlike Productions 15 Comments [11/23/2014 4:36:52 AM]
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Quote# 104841

Islamophobia is a beautiful thing, and people should embrace it. Don’t be afraid to stand up against evil. Though people will call you all sorts of names, wear them with pride.

gayzionist, I Support Israel 50 Comments [11/22/2014 9:48:47 AM]
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Quote# 104837

("Mr. Taylor apologized of his own free will, because he recognized that his shirt was not appropriate")

what the fuck? how does wearing a fucking shirt that contains half naked women when 1. we have women walking half naked out on the streets complying about how they are being limited by school dress codes! 2. if it was a woman wearing a t-shirt that contains a half naked man it would not drive you nuts. instead you would not care! how does robbing a bank on the same level of that of wearing a shirt that contains half naked women?! this is a fucking false equivalence! holy shit! his shirt was not inappropriate. you feminazi bullied him into submission! And no i am not an MRA i love it on how you feminist quickly make me or anyone who opposes your belief system, your perfect utopia a MRA as if the MRA is evil! i fucking knew it! you do hate men! and why would i change the fucking subject? we are talking about how feminism is evil on how feminist don't really care about equality. your comment is proof of that!

TheGuyWhoReviewGames, Deviantart 48 Comments [11/22/2014 9:46:34 AM]
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Quote# 104829

["does someone's life start when they start thinking? if not why"]

Our lives begin at conception. The ability to think is not linked to our existence. If it were, pro-choicers would be non-existent.

cultureshift, In Defense of the Defenseless 23 Comments [11/22/2014 7:39:29 AM]
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Quote# 104823

Christmas is the most hypocritical time of the year for most people. Everywhere we go in America, we are bombarded with Christmas music. As I was standing in line the other day at a grocery store, I was disgusted by a particular song... "It's the Most Wonderful Time of the Year." My first thought was about all the aborted babies, MURDERED by their own parents! Do you think it's wonderful for them? Over 100,000 babies will be murdered by abortion in the U.S.A. just in the month of December alone! Is this how we honor the birth of the Savior, by killing? Only a monster could have a wonderful Christmas after taking the life of an innocent child. Woe unto America... "What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground." (Genesis 4:10).

Here's the lyrics to the song... "It's the Most Wonderful Time of the Year":

It's The Most Wonderful Time Of The Year
With the kids jingle belling
And everyone telling you "Be of good cheer"
It's The Most Wonderful Time Of The Year
It's the hap -happiest season of all
With those holiday greetings and gay happy meetings
When friends come to call
It's the hap - happiest season of all

Oh boy!... friends, jingle bells, lots of cheer, dead babies getting their skulls cracked open and their brains sucked out, babies dissolved alive in acids, babies tossed into dumpsters--all such a happy time don't you think? Planned Parenthood (Herod-hood) is so ruthless and evil that they've even mock God's Word by selling "Choice on Earth" (instead of "Peace On Earth") Christmas cards promoting abortion. These people are sickos!

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 49 Comments [11/22/2014 7:15:26 AM]
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Quote# 104821

If women are not obligated to give sex to their husbands, what are their marriage obligations?

The marriage deal used to be as follows :

Husband provides resources and protection

Wife provides children and homemaking

Nowadays husbands are still held under coercion to provide resources and protection, but wives do whatever the fuck they want. No wonder there's a crisis.
That redpill woman you're quoting knows what's up. If she can say no to sex, why wouldn't her husband say no to being her money faucet? What will she do once her fertile years are gone? Who will support her? The traditional marriage deal is actually skewed in favor of women in that husbands are kept under coercion until the wife dies although she usually has long outlasted her usefulness in the marriage deal. She's just being given stuff for providing nothing in return once she has produced and reared the all important children.

The current western marriage deal only exists as it is because the State is enforcing it to be that unbalanced. It uses reproductive sexual relationships as a wealth extraction tool. If you don't want to end up living with cats, time to get back to traditional marriage.

Totorox, r/TheBluePill 27 Comments [11/22/2014 6:02:22 AM]
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Quote# 104819

[On the issue of transgender people using restrooms]

Gender neutral? What kind of nonsense is that? How can a gender ever be neutral? One is a man or one is a woman. The rest is made up PC Frankfurter Schule nonsense. No wonder we are in decline...

fafold, Telegraph 29 Comments [11/22/2014 6:01:15 AM]
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Quote# 104816

I am Mr. Christian and you call me hypocrite, stupid, narrow minded ... and all other kinds of insults (I am not sure who is intolerant here)... but you know what .. I don't care! I don't hate gay people, as I don't hate Liars, Cheaters, Abusers, Mollestors, ... I don't hate a person, but I do hate the choice of living a sinful lifestyle. Anyone has the right to live as they want.You can be a gay, liar, murderer, cheater, fornicator, child molestor, God hater ... but have the decency to live me alone and not shove your agenda down my throat. A loving God had no problems sending His Son to die for our sins, so it seems to me that SIN is a pretty big problem. Also, He had no problem wipping off all human race (except a few godly people) during the flood ... or again wipping off entire communities as Sodom & Gomorrah. So, I will in the end stick to the Word of God and strongly disagree with anyone who openly choses to disobey God and live in sin ... especially a gay person!

Mr Christian, Christinaity Today 37 Comments [11/21/2014 6:32:07 PM]
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Quote# 104813

atheism is itself a religion – by definition – since it is “a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe.”

Jason Lisle, Jason Lisle 50 Comments [11/21/2014 5:24:12 AM]
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Quote# 104812

“You've exposed how flawed your logical processes are by suggesting that pedophilia might become social acceptable. Homosexual relationships are between two consenting adults. Children aren't developed enough to consent, so pedophilia is essentially rape. It also can (and very often does) scar the child for life. If you really think homosexuality is comparable to pedophilia, then you're a beast without morals…” Reece Akinrinmade

The LA Times likens pedophilia to homosexuality:

“Like many forms of sexual deviance, pedophilia once was thought to stem from psychological influences early in life. Now, many experts view it as a sexual orientation as immutable as heterosexuality or homosexuality. It is a deep-rooted predisposition — limited almost entirely to men — that becomes clear during puberty and does not change….”

The Times then quoted Dr. Fred Berlin, head of Johns Hopkins Sexual Behaviors Consultation Unit:

“Other pedophiles are ‘good people who are struggling. They're tortured souls fighting like heck not to do this. We do virtually nothing in terms of reaching out to these folks. We drive it underground.’” [1].

Studies Show Pedophiles are "born that way"
"In studies, pedophiles show signs that their sexual interests are related to brain structure and that at least some differences existed in their brains before birth. For example, pedophiles show greatly elevated rates of non-right-handedness and minor physical anomalies. Thus, although pedophilia should never be confused with homosexuality, pedophilia can be meaningfully described as a sexual orientation." [2].

"A group of psychiatrists and other mental health professionals say it's time to change the way society views individuals who have physical attractions to children." [3].

It's just a matter of time until those who accuse pedophiles of rape will be considered narrow-minded intolerant beasts who are filled with hate-speech. Moral relativism is a predictable slippery downward path.

History is our teacher, if we will listen.

Ray Comfort, Facebook 48 Comments [11/21/2014 5:24:04 AM]
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Quote# 104811

[Another commenter celebrates feminism's advancements with regard to women's choices, awareness of sexual violence, and the LGBT movement.]

It seems like your definition of feminism is for a woman to be able to do what she wants. In Judaism, expression of feminism is to be able to do what G-d wants. The freedom that society has engendered is not necessarily a good thing, as such freedom can lead to being bound by our passions, which can lead to a frivolous life. Instead, the freedom to control our passions, is what we aim for and why such magazines [Cosmo] our so detested.

Anonymous, Aish.com 30 Comments [11/21/2014 4:45:04 AM]
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Quote# 104810

I congratulate anyone who grew up in the 60's and 70's and survived. Looking back, I feel that we were robbed of some of our childhoods, a whole lot of our adolescence and a lot of our young adult hoods. Everywhere ...the movies, the radio, the television, the popular songs and, yes, our high school and college teachers fed us a daily diet of leftism and contempt for traditional American and religious values. It's even worse now for our children.

Suzanne, Aish.com 34 Comments [11/21/2014 4:44:49 AM]
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Quote# 104808

It's not easy becoming an Indonesian policewomen. Among the requirements: applicants must be 17.5 to 22 years old, high school graduates, unmarried, God-fearing, at least 65 inches tall - and they must be virgins.

That's according to a Human Rights Watch report that reveals that the Indonesian government subjects female applicants for Indonesia’s National Police to "discriminatory and degrading" “virginity tests," a requirement clearly spelled out on the national police jobs website.

"In addition to the medical and physical tests, women who want to be policewomen must also undergo virginity tests," the website says. "So all women who want to become policewomen should keep their virginity."

News of the virginity requirement has unleashed a backlash from protestors who call the tests degrading, discriminatory, traumatizing, and humiliating.

“So-called virginity tests are discriminatory and a form of gender-based violence – not a measure of women’s eligibility for a career in the police,” Nisha Varia, associate women’s rights director at Human Rights Watch, said in a statement. “This pernicious practice not only keeps able women out of the police, but deprives all Indonesians of a police force with the most genuinely qualified officers.”

Several female applicants interviewed by HRW described the practice.

One woman who applied in 2013 said she was "shocked" when she was told that the health tests included a virginity test. "I felt embarrassed, nervous, but I couldn't refuse," she told HRW. "If I had refused, I couldn't have become a policewoman."

Another described having to fully undress in front of 20 other candidates before entering the exam room in pairs for the test.

“Entering the virginity test examination room was really upsetting,” she said. “My friend even fainted.”

She described the tests as "painful and humiliating."

Why does Indonesia subject its female applicants to a virginity test?

In fact, would-be policewomen have been undergoing the controversial tests for decades. One retired police officer told HRW her class had to undergo virginity tests in 1965.

"It's an old practice based on belief that a [female] virgin is healthier and morally fitter," HRW Indonesia researcher Andreas Harsono told the Global Post.

When asked why the tests are still performed, a police official only said “all tests” are meant to get “the best” applicants.

"It's not only a virginity test, it's also a genital and urinary examination to check for diseases and infections," Rusdianto, the head of the health center at the police headquarters in Jakarta, told the Global Post in defense of the practice. He also said the virginity tests do not eliminate candidates, which the HRW confirmed.

Applicants who “failed” were not necessarily expelled from the force, its report found.

Nonetheless, the practice goes against national police principles as well as international human rights policy, says HRW. Indonesia has ratified the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination against Women, and according to the country's national police principles, recruitment must be "non-discriminatory" and "humane."

HRW’s investigation into the virginity tests follows a recruitment drive by the national police force to hire 50 percent more females by December in order to boost the proportion of female officers to 5 percent of the 400,000-member force.

The organization has called on Indonesia's police force to stop the practice.

“The Indonesian National Police’s use of ‘virginity tests’ is a discriminatory practice that harms and humiliates women,” the HRW's Varia said in a statement. “Police authorities in Jakarta need to immediately and unequivocally abolish the test, and then make certain that all police recruiting stations nationwide stop administering it.”


Indonesian Police, The Christian Scinece Monitor 31 Comments [11/21/2014 3:41:40 AM]
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Quote# 104805

[The topic is a sexual health program in some New York high schools that lets the school nurse provide emergency contraception.]

1. Sexual activity, pregnancy, and contraception are serious health matters. Parents, not schools, are responsible for decisions related to the welfare of their minor child. Schools undermine parental authority when they are complicit with a student's wishes to hide important health issues from her parents.

2. It cannot be assumed that EC [emergency contraception] decreases teen pregnancy. In fact, some studies indicate it may increase it, along with STDs, by increasing sexual activity.
It's not difficult to imagine how that could happen:

She: No, I don't want to... I could get pregnant.

He: No you won't. We have school tomorrow, and you can get one of this pills after history class.

3. The success of the program is measured by how many students use it. But the more sex students have, the more girls will need EC. This just isn't sound thinking.

4. It is highly likely that many parents never hear about the program. The girl who is most likely to need EC is also the girl who is most likely to not deliver the letter. [Parents can opt their students out of this program by sending a letter to the school.]

5. A common side effect of EC is headache. But girls who return to the nurse for Tylenol can't get it without parental consent!

Dr. Miriam Grossman, Miriam Grossman MD 24 Comments [11/21/2014 3:40:39 AM]
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Quote# 104803

Have you guessed why I’m buying every copy of Are You My Mother? I can get my hands on?

Well, I believe it’s only a matter of time until this beloved classic is banned, because it’s based on these highly controversial ideas:

1. Everyone has a mother.

2. Everyone, especially a baby, has a unique, primal connection to his mother

3. Separation from his mother may lead to wondering where she is, and eventually to searching for her.

In case you haven't noticed, these views are under siege. Those who believe in them are called ugly names. They're considered intolerant and hateful. They're on the wrong side of "the biggest civil rights issue of our time."

[...]

So you see, this little book is heresy. Mark my words - It will disappear from libraries and bookstores. It may even go up in flames - think Fahrenheit 451.

Just a few will remain, but the book will have tremendous historical interest. (Some collectors may even value its moldy views on family, although they won't date say so.)

So there it is: low supply, high demand...and yours truly hits the jackpot.

My next money making scheme? I'm glad you asked. When I'm finished with Are You My Mother, I'll move on to buying all the copies I can find of Dr Seuss' Hop on Pop. Unless, of course, you grab them first.

Dr. Miriam Grossman, Miriam Grossman MD 49 Comments [11/20/2014 4:04:54 AM]
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