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Quote# 142878

I am God and so are you.

We are god in a certain sense, at least in comparison to normies because when you realise that morality is just a shackle we impose on our will you can pretty much do whatever you want. That guy at work who makes snide remarks about you or some foid that speaks condescendingly to you is in many ways subjected to your will, you can decide whether you kill or maim them or treat them nicely and act like a cuck, so while we can't control their actions or the consequences of your actions in almost every case you can control wether they live or die and that makes you god.

Kong Rong, incels.is 20 Comments [3/18/2019 10:09:16 AM]
Fundie Index: 6
Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 142877

Amos's headline: "THE PLOT THICKENS: SPLC’s Founder Was Fired Amid Employee Accusations Of Racism, Sexism"

https://www.dailywire.com/news/44717/plot-thickens-splcs-founder-was-fired-amid-ashe-schow

Lady Checkmate:


(image shows Southern Poverty Law Center logo with the words ANTI-CHRISTIAN superimposed over top)

Lady Checkmate:
If they weren't so Christophobic, I could tolerate them, but their hate for God and Bible-believing Christians is too much to bear.

bill 61:


(image says Southern Poverty Law Center A True "Hate Group")


Amos Moses, Disqus - News Network 11 Comments [3/18/2019 10:09:07 AM]
Fundie Index: 3
Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 142875

Alt-Left Memes & Gifs



The alt-left defined:
http://time.com/4919011/donald-trump-alt-left-antifa/

Lady Checkmate:
The alt-left is the biggest "hypocritical" hate group in the USA.

The alt-left's hate love and tolerance?

(Image shows caption "To the Alt Left, this is called love and tolerance" and picture of bleeding man on ground with "Make America Great Again" shirt being beaten by three men with signs which say "Tolerance", "Stop Hate" and "Love Trumps Hate")


(Image shows caption "This is what the left has become" and shows man clad in black (as a ninja) with a can of mace at his side holding a sign that says "hate free zone" beating a man with a gaping head wound and a "free speech" T-shirt - in the background is a raging fire where you can make out the words "Milo" and "Kill Trump" in the wreckage)


(Image shows bully holding up small man and about to punch him - large man is saying "Look buddy either you agree with me or else", caption reads "The Marketplace of Ideas")

Oxford Martyrs:

(Image shows two columns, one on the left saying alt-left, one on the right saying ISIS. Caption reads "starting to see a pattern here". Pictures in left column: men in black throwing rocks, Kathy Griffin holding a bloody Trump head, and a third undecipherable picture, pictures in right column (comparing the ones beside them): man in black hood brandishing knife, terrorist holding two decapitated heads, men with axes and hoods attacking a figure on the ground)

RightInGrey:
The dems and the liberals.........

All they have, is drama for cameras.
Their narrative seems crafted by an army of soccer moms, for soccer moms, and their wimpy children and cuckold husbands or the like.

Lady Checkmate:
It seems doubtful that soccer moms are promoting child-rape, legalizing pedophilia and beating the heck out of conservatives for standing against those things. Here is a picture of a few of the alt-left gang jumping, actually assaulting, a conservative in Berkeley...if they're "soccer moms", then their looks are truly deceiving:

(picture shows man being beaten, women in foreground watches)

But, RightInGrey), you make a good point. The alt-left frequently attempts to appeal to "soccer moms" for undeserved sympathy, financial and political support. The alt-left does not care for them or women in general, they only want to manipulate women to further their wicked agenda. Only silly women would support their foolishness.

Lady Checkmate, Disqus - News Network 11 Comments [3/18/2019 10:06:54 AM]
Fundie Index: 5
Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 142874

(-Authors Note: Not sure if this is "Fundie" as I have genuine sympathy for this woman as I would a victim of Stockholm Syndrome. Really this should go out to the churches who had influenced her. So if it doesn't make the cut, delete it-)

“I couldn’t reconcile the ‘God Hates Fags’ signs I saw with the idea of a God who loved me. I thought of Christians as intolerant, hateful, bigoted, and uneducated. It seemed impossible that my feelings about His people could ever change.” – Hope Harris
“Angry and unjust – that’s exactly how I described the God I was protesting at gay rights events years ago,” said Hope Harris. “I couldn’t reconcile the ‘God Hates Fags’ signs I saw with the idea of a God who loved me. I thought of Christians as intolerant, hateful, bigoted, and uneducated. It seemed impossible that my feelings about His people could ever change. “I’ve been screaming for acceptance since I was a young girl. It started when my mother was murdered in front of my eyes when I was four years old. As I moved through the foster care system, I endured both physical and sexual abuse. It seemed like God had truly abandoned me. I was raised by the same foster family I was placed with after my mother’s death.

“By the time I was in my mid-20s, I was an out loud and proud lesbian. I publicly advocated for gay rights and samesex marriage. But my world came to a screeching halt in 2006 when I was in a car wreck that almost took my life. Bedridden for a year-and-a-half, I had a lot of time for soul searching. There was a lot of friction in the relationship with my partner because I had been the workhorse of our home, and the accident took that away. I tried meditation, counseling, and other measures to deal with my emotional pain, with varying degrees of success.
“In 2008, a woman who I had a crush on invited me on a trip with her to East Texas. I remember her asking me what I most wanted in life, and I told her that I wanted peace of mind and heart. She shared the gospel with me, and I learned that Jesus gives peace that ‘the world cannot give.’ (John 14:27) I wanted the peace He had to offer, but I knew it would cost me a lot.

“On February 14, 2009, I trusted in the free gift of grace available to me through Jesus Christ. I was still in a relationship, and when I told her I had become a Christian, she asked me not to come home again. When I did return, I was shut out of both my house and bank account. I couch surfed for a while, trying to figure out what to do next. “I ended up moving to Longview, Texas – an unlikely place since I assumed Texans were politically incorrect people who hated lesbians. I sure didn’t want to go to church there, but the church secretary of a local congregation invited me. With fear and trembling I attended, and I liked it enough to eventually start volunteering at the church’s food pantry. That church turned out to be a safe place, and it immersed me into a community of Christians. Eventually, I even moved onto the church staff.

“I started coming to a discipleship ministry called Living Hope in Dallas. That’s where I met my friend, Sue Bohlin, a member at Watermark. She helped me develop the practice of reading God’s Word daily. Following Watermark’s Join the Journey Bible reading plan, I read through Paul’s letters in 2011. I had the choice to either reject the Bible or believe it was absolutely true. Through time in Scripture, God began addressing deeply-held mindsets I had regarding sexual and relational brokenness. The Lord helped me find my primary identity as His child, rather than as a lesbian.

“I read Mark 8:34-37, in The Message translation where Jesus says, ‘Self-sacrifice is the way, my way, to saving yourself, your true self. What good would it do to get everything you want and lose you, the real you?’ Through God’s Word, I learned that self-sacrifice meant surrendering the right to my sexuality and who I thought I was and choosing to believe in God, who tells me who I really am.

“While my feelings and attractions have not changed, what has changed is that, rather than living to please myself, I live to please the Lord. God’s Word is the leading force in my life. For about three years, I’ve been in a community group of women who have locked arms with me as we follow Jesus. Of all the changes God has made, walking with others who love me and point me to Jesus has been the most significant. I have learned that God is faithful, trustworthy, and worthy of our surrender and obedience.

“When I share my story with skeptics, I want them to know that same-sex attraction is really a hunger problem. I thought that relationships with other women would meet my needs, but the only love that truly satisfies is found in Jesus, the bread of life. (John 6:35) On my own, I have no power to change. Because my deepest, longings and desires are met in Jesus, my heart has been transformed.”
“Calling the crowd to join his disciples, he said, ‘Anyone who intends to come with me has to let me lead. You’re not in the driver’s seat; I am. Don’t run from suffering; embrace it. Follow me, and I’ll show you how. Self-help is no help at all. Self-sacrifice is the way, my way, to saving yourself, your true self. What good would it do to get everything you want and lose you, the real you? What could you ever trade your soul for?’” (Mark 8:34–37, The Message)

Hope Harris, Watermark 0 Comments [3/18/2019 10:05:22 AM]
Fundie Index: 3

Quote# 142871

New Zealand Mosque Shooting

Speaking following reports of multiple shootings at two Mosques in New Zealand earlier today, Senator Fraser Anning has responded with strong condemnation.

'I am utterly opposed to any form of violence within our community, and I totally condemn the actions of the gunman,' he said.

'However, whilst this kind of violent vigilantism can never be justified, what it highlights is the growing fear within our community, both in Australia and New Zealand, of the increasing Muslim presence.

'As always, left-wing politicians and the media will rush to claim that the causes of today's shootings lie with gun laws or those who hold nationalist views but this is all cliched nonsense.

'The real cause of bloodshed on New Zealand streets today is the immigration program which allowed Muslim fanatics to migrate to New Zealand in the first place.

'Let us be clear, while Muslims may have been the victims today, usually they are the perpetrators. World-wide, Muslims are killing people in the name of their faith on an industrial scale.

'The entire religion of Islam is simply the violent ideology of a sixth century despot masquerading as a religious leader, which justifies endless war against anyone who opposes it and calls for the murder of unbelievers and apostates.

'The truth is that Islam is not like any other faith. It is the religious equivalent of fascism. And just because the followers of this savage belief were not the killers in this instance, does not make them blameless.

'As we read in Matthew 26:52, 'all they that take the sword, shall perish by the sword' and those who follow a violent religion that calls on them to murder us, cannot be too surprised when someone takes them at their word and responds in kind,' Senator Anning concluded.

Fraser Anning, Daily Mail 26 Comments [3/18/2019 10:04:42 AM]
Fundie Index: 6
Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 142869

"What about the issues in the Old Testament with families like masters sleeping with their servants and men having many wives or even the issue of “inter-family” relationships and the like? Was it a population issue? When did the law change? Why was it okay then and not now?"

Great question! The problem is, the Bible rarely makes commentary on historical events. If it did, we would see notations like “[and this was not only sinful but STUPID because God’s plan for marriage is one man, one woman for life, and bad things happen when we disobey His commandment].”

The fact that sinful, unwise behaviors are recorded (without commentary) in the Bible doesn’t mean it was OK any more than newspapers reporting on crime means they condone it. They’re both just telling you what happened.

Hope this helps!

Sue Bohlin, Probe Ministries 10 Comments [3/18/2019 10:04:07 AM]
Fundie Index: 2

Quote# 142868

(This person is mocking critics of the metal band Arghoslent, who are talented musicians, but have lyrics glorifying slavery.)

eww....but eeewww...their lyrics aren't socially neutered and haven't been filtered thru the zionic stratagem....ewww...I cant like this band...im an indoctrinated spineless weasel millennial twerp.....

steve disgustipate, YouTube 2 Comments [3/18/2019 10:03:56 AM]
Fundie Index: 3

Quote# 142866

Chelsea Clinton is so fucking annoying. She openly condemned Ilhan Omar for speaking negatively about Israel, actual monsters, and tried to play it like Anti-Semitism, spoiler its not. Now she’s crying because Muslim’s are rightfully mad at her for pretending to care about them.

em, Twitter 8 Comments [3/17/2019 10:00:22 AM]
Fundie Index: 0

Quote# 142864

(OP: Talks about how in awe they are of Chelsea Clinton for handling herself with class in the face of someone yelling at her, blaming her for the shooting in Christchurch, pointing out that what Rep Ilhan Omar said about Jews is dangerous, and that we need to unite to stop white supremacist terrorists)

Ilhan Omar didn’t say anything anti-semetic, she criticised an organisation that lobbies the most powerful country in the world to aid and abet a racist apartheid state in a campaign of ethnic cleansing.

Smearing her as racist for doing so makes you a piece of shit.

And when a woman who is a victim of that ethnic cleansing says she’s not comfortable with someone who supports it and led a hate mob agains a black woman for calling it out crying crocodile tears at a vigil for victims of the same racism, she’s entirely in the right.

Fuck you

volcels-of-fire, Tumblr 4 Comments [3/17/2019 10:00:17 AM]
Fundie Index: -6

Quote# 142863

Why Pol Pot was a Hero to Incels

Pol Pot was the best example of how to purge and repress degeneracy in the modern age post ww2, all of the party members of his Regime were literal subhumans and yet they enslaved all of the whores and starved them to death which is exactly what they fucking deserve in three years he killed 15% of his country, Foids needed permission from the state to have kids or marry and anyone who even kissed without permission would be beat to death, this is the best way to prevent degeneracy and why Pol Pot should be considered an Incel hERo

Jog Mansen, incels.is 11 Comments [3/17/2019 10:00:10 AM]
Fundie Index: 12
Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 142859

Ima say it say it straight up, if Chelsea Clinton had miscarried as a result of being talked to (yes talked to, that's where we're at) by rightfully angry activists, the activists would have done us a double service. Speaking truth to power and ensuring there'll be one less Harvard airbrushed prick walking on this earth.

Bananapish, Tumblr 7 Comments [3/17/2019 9:58:33 AM]
Fundie Index: 8

Quote# 142856

Chechnya verdict could mark new purge of human rights activists

Lawyers and colleagues say case against Oyub Titiev was fabricated to punish him for his work

A court in Chechnya will deliver a verdict in the trial of a prominent human rights worker on Monday that could mark a new purge of activists from the Russian republic.

Oyub Titiev, the local head of the human rights organisation Memorial, has been accused of marijuana possession, as part of a case that his lawyers say was fabricated to punish him for his work documenting human rights abuses. The prosecution has asked for a sentence of four years in prison.

The case may also mark a new stage in the region’s crackdown on dissent. Chechnya’s strongman leader, Ramzan Kadyrov, has said that the government will no longer tolerate human rights activists.

“I officially declare to human rights activists: after the end of the trial, Chechnya will be forbidden territory for them, like it is for terrorists and extremists,” Kadyrov said last August in a speech to local law enforcement broadcast on local television.

Western countries applied sanctions against Kadyrov following revelations about the secret arrest and torture of dozens of gay people in Chechnya in 2017. Three people were reported to have died in the pogrom. Kadyrov framed action against human rights groups as a tit-for-tat move.

“Since I can’t go to Europe and the west, I say: their employees, the ones who call themselves human rights activists, will not have the right to travel in my territory,” he said.

Activists should have legal protections in Chechnya but in the region Kadyrov’s word is law.

For years, Chechnya has been one of the most dangerous regions in Russia for human rights activists and journalists. Natalya Estemirova, a former head of Memorial’s Chechnya branch, was abducted in Grozny, driven out of town and shot to death in 2009. In 2016, masked attackers brutally beat eight journalists and human rights activists traveling into Chechnya, and set fire to their minibus. A week later, Igor Kalyapin, the head of the Committee to Prevent Torture, was attacked in the region’s capital.

The campaign of intimidation has continued during Titiev’s case. One lawyer fled his legal team over threats. An office space and an automobile used by colleagues have been destroyed in arson attacks.

Colleagues have said they expect Titiev to be found guilty. Oleg Orlov, a senior Memorial member, wrote that the case was “fabricated” and was “effectively of a political nature”. Rachel Denber of Human Rights Watch called the case a “show trial”.

The specific reason Titiev was arrested is unclear. Memorial has always been a target for Kadyrov’s anger. The activist had been documenting cases of secret and illegal detentions of Chechens by the security forces, although according to colleagues, not the cases involving the gay purges.

The widespread condemnation of the Chechen leader in recent years, and measures such as the closure of his Instagram account, are said to have angered Kadyrov, who has sought ways to lash out at his critics.

“Kadyrov and top leaders in Chechnya have had human rights activists and investigative journalists in their crosshairs since the anti-gay purge,” Denber said in an interview in Moscow last week.

Titiev, who has worked for Memorial for nearly two decades and lives in Chechnya, was an easy target. In his closing remarks in court last week, he said he knew he would be found guilty.

“How many human rights activists can be murdered or put behind bars?” Titiev said. “When, finally, will the authorities pay attention to this?”

Ramzan Kadyrov, The Guardian 4 Comments [3/17/2019 9:58:21 AM]
Fundie Index: 8

Quote# 142851

Bryan Fischer has used his perch at the American Family Association to virulently attack Islam and its adherents for years, so it was only natural that he used his “Focal Point” radio program today to weigh in on the massacre of dozens of Muslim worshippers in New Zealand, saying that while he doesn’t support the manner in which it was carried out, he does sympathize with the underlying objective.

“I hate Islam,” he said. “I hate Islam because it is a danger to everything that is important to me: My faith, my country, my liberty, Christianity, civil rights. Everything that you and I treasure is threatened by Islam.”

Fischer said that ruthlessly murdering Muslims “is the wrong way to go about it,” but added that the shooter was “correct only in that Islam is something that does need to be stopped.”

Fischer declared that those responsible for the attack should be tried and publicly executed, but noted that “vigilante justice” like this is almost inevitable because governments are not taking adequate steps to eliminate the threat posed by Islam.

“One of the things that happens to guys like this is, if they’ve got some loose wiring to begin with and they see that their government is not doing what is necessary to protect them—whether it is from illegal aliens, whether it is from jihadis, whether it’s from vengeful Muslims—if they see that their government is not doing their jobs to promote justice, to carry out justice, to protect national security, then they’re going to start thinking, ‘Well, I can’t count on the government to do it, so I’m going to have to take things into my own hands,'” Fischer said. “That’s where you get vigilante justice … and, unfortunately, I think we saw a case of that today in New Zealand.”

Bryan Fischer, Right Wing Watch 15 Comments [3/17/2019 9:58:01 AM]
Fundie Index: 9
Submitted By: Kuyohashi

Quote# 142850

Amos's headline: "SHOCKED? 'DRAG QUEEN STORYTIME' READER ONCE CHARGED WITH CHILD SEX ASSAULT"

https://abc13.com/drag-queen-storytime-reader-once-charged-with-assault/5197176/

Amos Moses:
cuz we never told them .... NOT ..............

Lady Checkmate:
I'm not shocked. I'm heart-broken for those children. Those children are pawns in the social and political games of deviants and political opportunists. They are being taught lies and confusion and used as convenient and naive tools to promote what God calls evil...an exceedingly wicked agenda. An agenda that promotes the spirit of the anti-Christ and rebellion against the true and living God. God will deal with those who are causing (actually making) those children to sin*. My prayer is that laborers will come along and share Truth/Jesus Christ with those children early and that their hearts will be turned toward God and away from selfish, sinful idolatry and wickedness in Jesus name. He captured my heart as a child and He is the same yesterday, today and forever more. His Truth breaks through and destroys the lies of satan.

Amos Moses:
Albert Alfonso Garza, 32, was last seen reading to children at the Montrose Library in September 2018.
Montrose is the homosexual side of Houston .....

Lady Checkmate:
So, they're not running sexual-assault/pedophile background checks on those men? They're creating an environment for children to be indoctrinated and molested on the spot??

tsitala:
Question marks not needed. If I had children of school age today, which thankfully I don't, and could keep them out of public schools, it wouldn't even be a question as to whether I needed to do that or not. Immediately, and yesterday wouldn't have been soon enough.

Lady Checkmate:
I imagine a lot of people feel that way. Good parents know they need to teach their children the word God and raise them to reverence, love and obey God (not teach them about sex before they can walk or count to 10). I wish I could adopt some of the children no one wants...that's in God's hands.

Amos Moses, Disqus - News Network 15 Comments [3/17/2019 9:57:58 AM]
Fundie Index: 2
Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 142848

This was a really good Testimony of God's unconditional love and faithfulness.
I too have been set free from the homosexual life style. I don't even have same sex attractions. It's a freeing feeling to not be harassed by that ugly, twisted spirit. I really Thank God everyday. I know who I am in HIM. HIS DAUGHTER.

Julia Vank, Watermark 3 Comments [3/17/2019 9:42:43 AM]
Fundie Index: 4
Submitted By: CC

Quote# 142846

The Differences Between Heterosexual and Homosexual Relationships

Sometimes you hear gays or lesbians say, “We’re just like anybody else. We have two kids, a dog, a mortgage, and we worry about the economy. We just don’t want anybody telling us who we can love.” My friend Brady, who used to be part of that gay sub-culture, calls the homosexual lifestyle “a façade of normalcy.” And it is only a façade.

Consider the huge variance in the stability of relationships. Despite a high divorce rate, 57% of heterosexual marriages last over twenty years.{5} The average length of homosexual relationships is two to three years.{6} Only 5% of them last 20 years.{7}

And consider the issue of promiscuity. In heterosexual marriages, over three-fourths of the men and 88% of the women remain faithful to their marriage vows.{8} Most sexually active gay men are promiscuous, engaging hundreds of sexual partners over a lifetime.{9}

The concept of a committed relationship is very different for the two groups. Most heterosexual couples are faithful and stable. When homosexual men are in what they call a “committed” relationship, this usually includes three to five outside partners each year.{10} Rev. Troy Perry, founder of the Metropolitan Community Church, told the Dallas Morning News, “Monogamy is not a word the gay community uses. . . . We talk about fidelity. That means you live in a loving, caring, honest relationship with your partner. Because we can’t marry, we have people with widely varying opinions as to what that means. Some would say that committed couples could have multiple sexual partners as long as there’s no deception. Each couple has to decide.”{11}

In Holland, which legalized gay marriage in 2001, the average is eight outside partners.{12} One study of gay men who had been together for over five years could not find one single monogamous relationship.{13} Not one!

Women in lesbian relationships often stay together not because they want to, but because they’re stuck financially and emotionally. “I heard one speaker say at a Love Won Out conference, “We don’t have partners, we have prisoners.” Of course, that’s not universally true, but over the years of walking toward Jesus with women who were no longer in lesbian partnerships, I have heard over and over, “We didn’t know how to do life apart from each other.”

Heterosexuals live longer, happier lives. Sexually active homosexual men live a dangerous and destructive lifestyle. They are at huge risk for contracting AIDS, and run a much higher risk of sexually transmitted diseases than straight men. The gay community experiences three times more alcoholism and drug abuse,{14} and much more promiscuity and domestic violence than the straight world.{15} Gay men can expect to live twenty years less than their straight neighbors.{16}

And finally, a home with a mom and a dad is the best possible place for children. Homosexual parents put kids at risk. The American College of Pediatrics discovered that children raised by gay parents tend to be more dissatisfied with their own gender, suffer a greater rate of molestation in the family, have homosexual experiences more often, and are encouraged to experiment in dangerous, destructive lifestyle choices.{17}

Please hear me: We’re commenting on the extremely high-risk behavior that is part and parcel of a homosexual lifestyle. That’s not the same thing as condemning the people who engage in it. A homosexual lifestyle is a façade of normalcy, but it can be changed.


Answering Arguments for Same Sex Marriage

Let’s look at several arguments being offered for same sex marriage.

The first is that marriage will encourage faithfulness and stability in volatile homosexual relationships. But the nature of homosexual and lesbian relationships is broken to begin with. Two broken people will not create a whole, healthy relationship. The best description I’ve ever heard of same sex relationships is “one broken little boy looking for his daddy, connecting with another broken little boy, looking for his daddy.” And the same is true of women. Neither a marriage license, nor the approval of society, can fix the nature of a relationship that is irretrievably broken at its core.

Another argument is that we need same sex marriage to insure hospital visitation. But it’s the patient who decides. If he appoints his partner as a health-care proxy, even if he’s in a coma that document will insure access to the hospital. We don’t need marriage for that. It’s a smokescreen.

A third argument is that we need same sex marriage to insure survivorship benefits. But that’s what a will is for. You don’t need marriage for that.

Some say that we need same sex marriage for Social Security benefits. This is an interesting argument, since Social Security benefits were created to address the financial inequity of father as breadwinner and mother as stay-at-home caregiver. Homosexual relationships are usually two-incomes. It’s very rare to have one stay-at-home caregiver of the kids, since homosexual relationships do not and cannot produce children naturally. When they do, they are borrowing from God’s plan for creating families.

Then there’s the discrimination argument. There are really two issues that fall under this argument: denied liberties and denied benefits.

Concerning the issue of denying the liberty to marry, this argument doesn’t hold water. Any person can marry whoever he or she pleases, with certain restrictions that are true for everyone. You can’t marry a child, a close blood relative, a person who is already married, or a person of the same sex. These restrictions apply equally to everyone; there is no discrimination here. The problem is, some people don’t like the restrictions.

True discrimination functions against an unchangeable identity, such as gender or color. Homosexuality is a lifestyle, a chosen behavior. Even sexual orientation is changeable. It’s not easy, but it is possible.

The other issue of discrimination is denied benefits. But benefits are granted to families because society has an interest in providing a safe place for children to grow up and be nurtured. So the government provides child-oriented benefits such as inheritance rights and tax relief to ease the financial burden of children. Insurance policies and Social Security benefits provide for the money gap between wage-earner and caregiver. These benefits are inherent to families. The essence of marriage is about building families. Homosexual relationships cannot build families legitimately. They have to borrow from heterosexual relationships or technology to create children.

Sue Bohlin, Probe 10 Comments [3/17/2019 9:42:35 AM]
Fundie Index: 4

Quote# 142845

Sue Bohlin takes a look at the arguments for same sex marriage and finds them lacking from a Christian, biblical worldview perspective. She explains that those pushing for same sex marriage have redefined it into something it never was and was never intended to be.

What’s Marriage For?

In any discussion on same sex marriage, we need to start at the beginning: What is marriage is for, anyway? Marriage begins a family. The family is the basic building block of society. It has always been this way from Adam and Eve down to today.

Man did not invent marriage; God did. He invented and ordained marriage as the foundation for all human society when He gave Eve to Adam and pronounced them man and wife. Marriage is one of those institutions that is found in every human culture. Across the globe and across the ages, marriage has always been defined the same way: one man and one woman in a committed relationship, providing a safe place to bear and raise children. I would suggest that since this pattern for marriage applies to all cultures and all times, this indicates that God is its inventor and creator. It’s such an intrinsic part of the way we relate to each other that even those who have lost track of the story of the true God (the non-Judeo-Christian cultures) still practice marriage according to the pattern God designed: one man and one woman in a committed relationship, providing a safe place to bear and raise children.

God has woven “marriage into human nature so that it serves two primary purposes throughout all societies.”{1} The first is the way men and women were created to complement each other. Marriage balances the strengths and weaknesses of masculinity and femininity. Women help civilize men and channel their sexual energy in productive rather than destructive ways. Men protect and provide for women—and any children they produce together.

Marriage is built on a basic building block of humanity—that we exist as male and female. The strong benefit of marriage as God intended it is that males and females are designed with profound and wonderful differences, and these differences are coordinated in marriage so that each contributes what the other lacks.{2}

The second purpose of marriage is producing, protecting, and providing for children. Marriage ensures that children have the benefits of both mother and father. Each gender makes a unique and important contribution to children’s development and emotional health, and marriage provides the best possible environment for children to thrive as they enjoy the benefits of masculinity and femininity.

Those who are pushing for same sex marriage don’t see marriage this way. They seek to redefine it as a way to get society’s stamp of approval on their sexual and emotional relationships, and a way to secure financial and other benefits. Both of these reasons are about the adults, not about children. Both reasons are driven by the philosophy of “How can I get what I want? How can I be happy?” It’s a very self-centered movement.

Many homosexuals want the right to marry only because it confers society’s ultimate stamp of approval on a sexual relationship—not because they want to participate in the institution of marriage.


Why Same Sex Relationships Are Wrong

Let’s look at several reasons (though not an exhaustive list by any means) that same sex relationships are wrong.

First, homosexuality is an attempt to meet legitimate needs in illegitimate, ungodly ways. We all have God-given heart hungers to feel loved and known and validated—to feel that we matter. God intends for us to have those needs met first by our parents and then by our peers, but sometimes something goes wrong. People find themselves walking around with a gaping, aching hole in their souls, longing to make the connections that didn’t happen when they were supposed to, earlier in their lives. From both the women and the men that I know who are dealing with unwanted homosexuality, I hear the same thing: “I just want to be held, I just want to be known, I just want to be special to someone.” But turning to homosexual or lesbian relationships to get those needs met is not God’s intention for us.

Second, same sex relationships are outside of (and fall far short of) God’s created intention for sex. God made us male and female, designed to complement each other physically, emotionally, and spiritually. Two men or two women coming together can never live out God’s intent for His creation. The biology of our gender shows us that same sex relationships don’t work, but opposite sex relationships do. It is unwise to ignore the obvious about how the pieces fit, or don’t fit, as the case may be.

Third, marriage is an earthbound illustration of the mystery of Christ and the church.{3} There is a mystical unity of two very different, very other beings coming together as one. Only the profound differences of man and woman display this mystery. “If the man represents Christ and the woman represents the church, then a male to male partnering would be, in essence, a symbolic partnering of God with Himself apart from His people. Likewise, a lesbian relationship would become a symbolic partnering of God’s people without Him. Either option is incomplete, unnatural, and abhorrent.”{4}

Fourth, same sex relationships are idolatrous. In Romans 1, Paul describes the downward spiral of people who worship the creature instead of the Creator. When God says intimate relationships with people of the same sex are forbidden, and people insist on pursuing them anyway, they have elevated something else to the position of a god. It could be the other person, or sexual pleasure, or even just one’s own feelings, but all these things become idols because they are more important than anything else, including God.

Homosexual and lesbian relationships are wrong because God designed us for something far better. The nature of the gospel is to bring transformation to every aspect of a believer’s life, and many people have discovered the “something better.” (See my article, “Can Homosexuals Change?“)

Sue Bohlin, Probe Ministries 8 Comments [3/17/2019 9:42:32 AM]
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Quote# 142844

"I am a high school student writing a paper for English over some hatred issues across America and I was wondering if you would answer some questions about marriage equality, gender issues, etc.

Why do you, personally, dislike homosexual behavior?"

For the same reason I dislike heterosexual behavior (like using pornography or unmarried or extramarital sex) that is outside of God’s plan and purpose for our bodies and souls: it is harmful to the person(s) engaging in it. Sex is so powerful, like electricity, that it needs to be contained within the safe confines of marriage between a man and a woman who have committed to each other for life. Outside of that containment, the power of sex is more like lightning, which does damage instead of being channeled into serving us.

But homosexual behavior is not just about sex. There is also a lot of emotional dependency in same-sex relationships, especially between girls and women, when their friendship has overflowed the banks of what is healthy. Emotionally dependent relationships are intense (which becomes exhausting), chaotic (which drains people further), controlling and manipulative (which is hurtful to the people and to the relationship). I dislike this behavior because it is harmful to the people engaging in it as well. I love people and hate to see them get hurt. That’s why I dislike the behavior that contributes (eventually) to heartache.

"If anyone of your family members became homosexual, how would you react?"


That already happened, when one of my relatives was seduced into lesbian relationships and started seeing herself as part of the LGBT community. I continued to love her, encourage her, delight in her . . . even though we don’t talk about her relationships or her involvement in LGBT.

I have two grown sons, though, which is the closer kind of family I think you may be thinking of. If either one of them announced they were gay, I would weep that he had been deceived by our spiritual enemy into thinking falsehoods about himself, and I would pray every day for his eyes to be open to the truth, even as I continued to love him like I do now.

"Why do you think God doesn’t love homosexual people and their behaviors?"


I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that God dearly and tenderly loves those who struggle with same-sex attraction, those who have embraced a gay identity, and even those who have fully immersed themselves in the LGBT world. I’m thinking of one young man in particular who went on a two-week bender, prostituting himself for gay sex so he could buy drugs and keep himself high. I know that his decisions grieved God’s heart deeply (especially when he became HIV+ during that 2 weeks), but He never left the man or stopped loving him, and was there waiting patiently for him to come to his senses . . . which he did. And now their relationship is stronger than ever.

If God loved people, ALL people, enough to send His only Son into the world to be nailed to a cross, taking our place and paying the penalty for our sin and then raising Him from the dead, then I think He continues to love all of us in our messy, sinful rebellion. But He never endorses or accepts our sinful behavior, though He fully accepts US. Acceptance and approval of choices and behaviors are not the same.

You may have noticed I went from talking about homosexuals to US . . . because we are all in the same predicament: messy, sinful, rebellious people who desperately need God. There is no us/them differentiation—we are all alike in our need for God, and we are all alike in the fact that He loves us more than we can imagine.

"Do you believe in abortion, and why?"


I think it is a heinous thing to murder a baby, whether he or she lives inside the mother or outside the mother. Abortion is taking the life of an innocent child, and it’s wrong to murder.

"And do you consider Probe Ministries a hate group?"

Absolutely not! We were tagged a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center because we don’t agree with the LGBT agenda. We align ourselves with the Bible’s standards that all sex outside of marriage violates God’s commands for human sexuality. Unfortunately, these days mere disagreement is called hate. I have repeatedly invited people to identify the hate-filled words on our website so I can change them, but no one has ever identified any. I believe that is because you won’t find words of hate on our website, or our podcasts, or any of our recorded messages. (And I do know what hate sounds like. Westboro Baptist Church makes me sick.)

I’m the primary writer and speaker about homosexuality and gender issues for Probe. It might be helpful for you to know that for 18 years I have also served with Living Hope Ministries, which is a Christian organization that helps people deal with unwanted homosexuality, and the family members of those who have chosen to embrace a gay identity. I have known and grown to love more people than I can count, people who are my heroes as they fight their feelings and instead, pursue intimacy with Jesus Christ. I have watched so many people’s hearts change over time, and I have walked with a lot of women as they process the reasons for their attractions and experience a shift in their beliefs and attitudes (and sometimes attractions as well, though not always). They are so very dear to me, and I love being their cheerleader and encourager.

That’s the opposite of hate. That’s what love looks like, and that’s what is the foundation of everything I write and say on this issue.

It might also be helpful for you to know that I have run everything I write and say through the filter of trusted friends who were once part of the LGBT community, asking them to identify anything that is unintentionally hurtful or rude or even untrue so I can change it before it becomes public.

I’m glad you asked, and I am thankful for the opportunity to provide you with some answers.

Have a good day.

Warmly,
Mrs. Bohlin

Sue Bohlin, Probe Ministries 11 Comments [3/17/2019 9:40:52 AM]
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Quote# 142842

As pro-LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender) voices and values grow louder and more insistent in the culture, what about those people of faith who experience same-sex attraction and don’t want it? What are they supposed to do with feelings and desires at odds with their faith? How are they supposed to learn to reconcile their faith and their sexuality?

The cultural narrative has become, “LGBT represents normal, healthy variations in human sexuality, so everyone should support and celebrate all forms of sexual diversity. And if you don’t, we’re going to punish you, shame you, and squelch your voice.”

Part of the punishing and shaming includes outrage over “Conversion Therapy.” A growing number of states outlaw it. What makes it so bad and why are people so angry about it?

What is Conversion Therapy?

Conversion Therapy is usually defined as therapy designed to change a person’s sexual orientation. But is that what it really is? Therapy is a shortened form of the word “psychotherapy,” which means the treatment given by a licensed mental health professional such as a psychologist or psychiatrist, a social worker, or a licensed counselor. So Conversion Therapy isn’t therapy without a professional counselor of some kind, with the goal of changing someone’s sexual orientation.{1} But do a Google search for organizations being labelled as doing (or even promoting) Conversion Therapy—which will include a number of churches—and you’ll find neither element happening.

Conversion Therapy is the current buzzword that instantly communicates something that smears hate, shame, judgment and probable suicidality in those who undergo it, forced or not. It is not acceptable to say there’s anything wrong or unhealthy about any form of “sexual diversity.” Those that do—for example, anyone who holds to a biblical, traditional view of marriage and sexuality—are labeled as haters, bigots, prudes, outdated . . . and wrong.

Anne Paulk, director of Restored Hope Network, describes it as “an ideological term used by the GLBTQ activist community and their supporters who seek to link compassionate spiritual care and talk therapy with horrible, clearly disreputable practices.”{2}

These “disreputable practices” include stories of some extremists who used torture, pain and punishment to try and exorcise homosexuality from people. Most notably and recently, the movie Boy Erased purports to show the true story of a teenage boy whose parents sent him to a strict camp that left heartbreaking wounds on his soul. (It should also be noted that the producers took a number of creative liberties to produce the most dramatic moments of the film, none of which actually happened per the book.) The cultural narrative lumps extremists with all those engaged in helping those with unwanted homosexuality, painting them all with a broad brush of condemnation.

Helping Those Who Want the Help

A number of ministries and churches actively seek to help those who don’t want their same-sex feelings or their discomfort with their gender. Or, even if they don’t fight against their feelings, they want to live lives honoring to God despite their desires, which means not giving into them. These ministries and organizations neither offer nor promise conversion of homosexual attractions into heterosexual ones. That would be like offering to make someone stop loving chocolate and start loving kale. Not gonna happen, right?

But they can teach what God’s word says about sexuality, discipleship, and living a life pleasing to God. They can help people (note: choose to, not be forced to) submit every area of their lives to the lordship of Jesus Christ, including sexuality. There are many who define and identify themselves by their sexuality; God’s word calls us to define and identify ourselves by our relationship to Him.

Human sexuality is a complex, many-layered issue comprised of a lifetime of experiences, perceptions, habits, and ways of thinking. There’s nothing simple about it. It has also, for every one of us, been impacted by the Fall and the pervading presence of sin.

But Is Change Even Possible?

Ever hear the pejoratively-used phrase “Pray away the gay”? That’s as effective as praying away fat. A prayer like, “Please Jesus make me stop wanting people/things/food I shouldn’t” has never worked because He doesn’t have a magic wand. He says to all those who want to be His disciples, “If anyone wishes to come after Me, he must deny himself, and take up his cross and follow Me” (Matthew 16:24). That means saying no to ourselves and to our flesh, the part of us that operates independently of God. The apostle Paul instructs us in Romans 12:2 to “be transformed by the renewing of your mind. . .” Cooperating with God to renew our mind means submitting our thoughts and habits to Him, “taking every thought captive to the obedience of Christ” (2 Corinthians 10:5). The call to surrender every part of us, including our sexuality, as the way to obey and honor God, is a difficult one, and it takes community. It takes the support of other Christ-followers to walk alongside us, pray for us, speak God’s truth to us, encourage us, challenge us, restore us when we stumble and fall, and help us keep going.

Change is not only possible, it is the mark of things that are alive. And it is the fruit of the gospel. Lasting change comes not from human effort but from supernatural transformation as we surrender to the work of God in our lives. We experience change as we are transformed into the image of Christ (2 Corinthians 3:18). Christlikeness produces change in how we think, what we believe, how we see ourselves and others, our behavior, and finally—like the caboose on a train—our feelings. But there’s no point in trying to change the feelings apart from the rest of the process.

Discipleship is often what’s happening in ministries and churches that are smeared with the label of “Conversion Therapy,” being lied about and attacked by people who can’t abide any position other than their own.

Next time you see the term “Conversion Therapy,” know that it’s not about shutting down bad therapists. It’s about shutting up people who agree with God about sexuality.

Sue Bohlin, Probe 7 Comments [3/17/2019 9:40:45 AM]
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Quote# 142838

Freaking white liberals can’t even pretend to give shit about muslims long enough. Here they are teaming up with MAGA and attacking young Palestinian woman for daring to call Chelsea Clinton out for helping to instigate and support Islamophobic attack on Omar. Calling out Israel and their crimes against Palestine and those who support it like Aipac makes you an anti-semitic and unAmerican.

Here are white liberals on twitter with their friend MAGA acting like telling Chelsea off is as tragic as that terrorist attack in NZ.

Y’all can take your fake allyship and crocodile (sorry crocs) tears and shove it up your behind. You don’t fool anyone. You also don’t get to control emotions any muslim is feeling right now.

(Screenshot of Tweet 1 by Rob Rousseau reads, "Chelsea Clinton sided with a bunch of deranged bigots and helped incite an islamophobic outrage mob against a member of Congress like two weeks ago, so she and the liberal dipshits defending her shouldn't be surprised that a grieving muslim woman wasn't happy to see her today.")

(Screenshot of Tweet 2 by irish beto o'rourke reads, "tonight my thoughts are with the true victims of the christchurch massacre: chelsea clinton & her unborn child. sources say a young peasant woman was rude to her and likely forced a misscarriage.")

blog-sev, Rob Rousseau, irish beto o'rourke, Tumblr 3 Comments [3/17/2019 9:37:20 AM]
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Quote# 142837

(context: Chelsea Clinton was blamed for the attack in Christchurch)

Neo-Liberal pathology. These people will find every conceivable fault in black women, and women of color, but god forbid a rich fail daughter heiress is actually intellectually, ethically, and morally worthless. Say it with me everyone!

YOU DON’T NEED TO LICK THE BOOT OF RICH LIBERALS WHO DON’T ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT YOU!

scumbag storm trooper, Tumblr 3 Comments [3/17/2019 9:37:16 AM]
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Quote# 142836

Until about a century ago, Christianity was taken for granted as dominant faith and moral pole star of American life. The notion that a mother had a right to murder her child, that two men could marry, or that a boy could become a girl would've been seen as sick humor at best.

Now find me a major motion picture, best selling Big Five novel, or prime time TV show not made by people who celebrate all of the above. You'll have a hard time, as the last holdouts are rapidly being exiled from the industry.

Yet more people worship Luke Skywalker, Mario, and Thor--the comics version--than worship Jesus Christ.

[...]

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Brian Niemeier, Kairos 19 Comments [3/17/2019 9:37:02 AM]
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Quote# 142835

People have always demonized the weird if they start challenging the norm. The "Pedo" rumor is just another invention made by people who couldn't understand that the guy was just genuinely carefree and didnt care if he was childlike.


Originally Posted by Stinger Fan
You're defending him a little too strongly in this thread . One of the lead detective states they found books of children naked in his home ,which were legal as they weren't pornographic but , don't you think that's odd for a man over 30 to own? This detective also went onto state that one of the kids who alleged sexual misconduct , was able to accurately describe what Michael Jackson looked like naked, how is that possible? Jackson admitted he'd have "slumber parties" with under-aged children and sleep in the same bed with them. Don't you find any of this odd? Would you defend him if he wasn't famous? Let me ask you this, would you honestly feel comfortable allowing your own under-aged child to sleep over at a grown mans home if he gave you his word that it was "just innocent"? Let's not forget, he settled out of court, which innocent people don't typically do. You can't ignore the allegations made against him because he's famous, that is not a defense as they aren't incapable of being horrible human beings.



These are exaggerated from everything i'm to understand. The books were fanmail he was sent as a prank be people who thought he was guilty, and the children didn't sleep "with" him. He supposedly slept on the floor whilst the children took his bed. Weird? Yes. Criminal? Unproven.

beatles123, Wrestling Forum 2 Comments [3/17/2019 9:36:56 AM]
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Quote# 142832

AGAINST ALL SCIENCE

In general it is true that
(as to specific particularities, see declaration overleaf):

Science
is in effect the ignominy and shame of Auschwitz, of Hiroshima, and all the scientific trash and waste have already formed garbage dumps even in space (satellites etc.).[b]

That this must be imputed only to the wrong use of science? You must be joking. Technical progress, comforts for the "masses", welfare, medical achievements, … and in exchange for all that there it is, the price to be paid for it: the price itself, the prices, the high and low prices, all prices, prizes and praises, and the price also as value (equivalent, in German: scheissegalgesund, Verwurschtelegalscheiss!*) Shit or health, it makes no difference; or, frankly said, it’s all the same shit! The whole matter has got in a muddle that is equal to health/shit, even as the holy of holiest, i.e. as HEIL-health, as GeSSundheit, that is as precisely that animal-like-Nazi-foolish figment of the mind that is too well known up to puking and by far not only here, in these parts, -: human sacrifices, since the times of the very first and the very last medical priests. Was that really only pre-scientific or pre-empirical, the sacrifices of humans, the highest price, supposedly to praise the Gods? More and more actions of mass extermination since then, in times of war and peace (not more than 3 weeks since 1945!), show the contrary: scientific progress – –. They were planned and executed by the medical classes of the time, while illness was their pretext, and their justification every time afterwards. That is the price to be paid for (what kind of?) progress, especially since you too, dear reader of these lines, are certainly carrying something "ill" all along with you in your "genetic equipment"; yes, you too, and all the others.

* This word is to spare the readers several thousand pages of philosophical-political literature, which they don’t like to
understand anyway, let alone so much as to even read them, not even in the UK or the USA; yes, it’s an ugly word
that comprises the meat and sausage processing mincing and muddling and mixing up in food plants (factories) as
well as anthropomorphical issues and the systemic automatisms of trade market on the base of the iatrocapitalistic
system, by putting them altogether into one, so drastically as unappetizingly, but appropriately; perhaps one should
learn also elsewhere, just for the sake of change, to spell suchlike words, which are more than of common use in
chemistry, in physics, in engineering and elsewhere, letter by letter und read them aloud with a raised voice (vox alta),
in order to learn anew in favor of understanding that every single word in all sciences is sharpening one’s awareness of
the various myths, lies and cock-and-bull stories that, with the regard to history and its results as a whole, link by link,
constitute one single chain of live-damaging action and destruction. Taken literally or letter-by-letter, and in application to
the facts here exposed, it means that millions of people stigmatized by etiquettes are being killed of course any moment,
and that goes without saying as commodities are being sold and bought on the market.



It’s already in its bases that science is precisely the stuff that in all times has made us into throwaway merchandise and, vice versa, turned wares (money, credit) into idols. Scientific basic research? A silly joke. Science has abdicated a long time ago. But far from resigning definitely it is pushing its way forward, more and more (trade with organ banks, genetics = biotechnological genocide). All of us have been inoculated with all that as logic (logo! okay!) since thousands of years. And all of us, be it as scientists and humanists (i.e. as scientists of the science of nature and of the humanities), or be it as the so called physically or mentally "less well-offs" or "less illuminated" in consequence of poverty or whatsoever, in brief: as "idiots", "cripple-idiots", or be it only as "dimwits", we all have adapted to that murderous nonsense to such a degree that it has become to us the guarantor, the base (still another "basic research"!) of our pride and of our philanthropy (humanism). All are guaranteeing, we too, nothing. But a part [SPK/PF(MFE)] has succeeded at least in proving shame for all that. By the force of illness, offend those who are offending you. How else but by your action you can dissociate yourself from this murderous logic, change the conditions, and change yourself?!

What has caused the opportunity we took for the following statement? You might forget it. It was just an opportunity, and by no means the cause, the reason (Ur-Sache): your and our relation to illness. We are, for reason of that cause and on occasion of all the caused opportunities (contradiction in the identity of illness and capitalism), absolutely and decisively in favor of illness (revolutionary moment). But it’s not we that are at stake; as we are already very well off thanks to the forces of illness, for us all doctors can get lost, and that since several decades. And what about you? Should we, at least, still feel sorry for you? Or is it you that, in top secret, should at least feel sorry for yourself? It is said that things like that might happen.

The following declaration was distributed to hundreds of people. Against all sorts of party-fractions and fragmentations (e.g. against a meeting organized in Vienna by students of medicine hostile to patients), and in so far against an insignificant fragmentation of the White Army, or, as you might say as well, against a little bit White Army Fraction (WAF – – ). But even at this regard the repercussions were astonishing and flabbergasting, and a few people, who, in the beginning, had thought of our declaration printed overleaf "to be perhaps a little bit exaggerated" were shocked at those reactions. A doctor’s car for emergency calls which, called on for help by the doctors and medical students, had hurried to the doctors’ aid and succeeded in rescuing a few of them. Rescuing them from what? From the following sheet of paper (see declaration overleaf). It’s precisely the same declaration that has been distributed to hundreds of people, and other hundreds have asked us, within the first three days, to allow them to reprint and distribute this declaration unchanged on their own expense, and so they did.

((Overleaf))

As to the specific particularities:
Subject: Symposium Viennese from the 5th to the 7th of November 1998
(Or: From the Cup of Poison to Genocide-Cannibalism)


Declaration

As to me, K. S., I, too, am not partaking in this Congress, although I’ve been invited by Mr. Spann, PhD, to organize a bookstand.

Last time it was in January 1998 that I have given my opinion here, as a front-patient of the Patients’ Front. On that occasion, reports were published in the print-media, broadcasting and TV, CNN live included. From January till now no one of those present at that time has learned something new and, according to the schedule of today’s congress, no one of those who has come along since then has learned something new.

Iatrocracy’s international army, the army dressed in white, and their followers and supporters here too, being tied to their interests, can not be taught because they are incorrigible. It goes without saying. At most it’s from the Nazi, against whom they line up here as they say hypocritically, that they can learn something more.

Each and every science, and even and properly the most exact science, as mathematics and the science of nature, has been always the same, right up from its very origin and basics, and even before the Nazi showed up: that is, the murder-market’s logic of the excluded contradiction. What? How that? Nota bene: The Identity-dogma of each trade and change, from monet-Aryan-alike up to … and anyway logic (logo!, okay!): holocaustologic logically! "Authentic identities", from Aristotle and Thomas, the Saint of Aquino, and the stakes (Scheiterhaufen), up to, and it could not be otherwise, could it?: Just take a look on the schedule of this Congress: True, true, true, true = authentically true, exactly as prayer wheels that run at top, Aryan-alike, medico-alike, archiatric-ally, nature-ally, liter-Aryan, and, logically, holo-logically, holocausto-logically!: In the past monet-Aryan-alike, at the present digit-ally, in brief: logistic-Aryan-alike (cf. B. Russell), authentically and identically, but true!

History as science has been ever since that of the winners, who make and fake and patchwork together the "histories".

Ethics and Morality became and remained the matter of single elites nut-cases, instead of being the concern of each and all, originally: defeat of Gods and Idols!, that is against those puffed up blossoms of the swamp and all sorts of ethic-casters.

In brief: all past and future science plus all the congress-garbage belonging to it, all scientific approach and methods, remain as such iatro-capitalistic science, and such ones as Hitler as its henchman is always available. In its basics and its effects, its oppressive actions and its shirking, all of it, from physics to philosophy, with medicine as the crown of all these creations and of this act of creating (doing away with the "ballast-existences" and with the in-equivalent, that is the unworthy, unhealthy lifes), with the genocidal genocide as its last extra gain for the time being.

This is why I’m fighting, and why I’m learning by fighting, ever being willing to learn, but exclusively orientated to Diapathics and Pathopractice in Utopathy, me too.

Off with all the medical fraud!

Put the Doctors’ Class on Diet-zero!

Free yourselves from them and them from themselves!

From the Patients’ Class to the Human Species
through the New-revolution by the Force of Illness!


(Emphasis original)

Patients' Front / Socialist Patients' Collective (H), Patients' Front / Socialist Patients' Collective (H) 16 Comments [3/16/2019 6:02:40 AM]
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Quote# 142831

Liberal law center demonizes Christian foes of LGBTQ agenda as ‘hate groups’

August 18, 2017 (LifeSiteNews) — In the vast array of leftist lies, one of the most dangerous is that groups and people defending historic Judeo-Christian sexual morality are somehow guilty of "hate." The main perpetrator of that “big lie” these days is the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), which has turned smearing and demonizing social conservatives fighting the homosexual-transgender agenda into a very profitable business.

The SPLC is attempting to pull off one of the nastiest and most audacious “bait-and-switch” propaganda coups in history — equating the Christian-conservative led effort to defend biblical morality against the aggressive LGBTQ lobby with vile racists, Neo-Nazis and anti-Semitic extremist groups.

The Birmingham, Alabama-based SPLC’s “hate” campaign is helped along by lazy, biased journalists and online “social justice warriors” who delight in using its past anti-racism credentials to advance the Left's immoral and deviant sex-gender agenda.

CNN lends legitimacy to SPLC

Yesterday, CNN shamefully assisted the SPLC’s bogus “hate” narrative by running a story featuring its “hate map” under the initial headline, “Here are all the active hate groups where you live.” It was accompanied by a graphic of the SPLC’s “hate map” of alleged “hate groups,” which includes, under Illinois, my organization, Americans For Truth About Homosexuality (AFTAH). We have been slandered as an SPLC “hate group” for the last several years.

On the SPLC ‘s Illinois map, AFTAH and other Christian pro-family groups are listed alongside a KKK group, a "white nationalist" outfit, and some affiliates of the Aryan Nations Sadistic Souls MC, another Nazi group. This is the SPLC’s vicious handiwork, treated as “fact” by the media.

After protests by those miscast as “haters,” CNN changed its headline to "The Southern Poverty Law Center’s list of hate groups.”

Similar stories featuring the SPLC’s bogus “hate map” have popped up across the country, including one in the The Boston Globe headlined, “Where hate calls ‘home’ in Massachusetts.”

The following pro-family groups join Americans For Truth in having the distinct “honor” of being lied about by the cunningly deceptive, sleazy and, yes, downright evil SPLC:

Abiding Truth Ministries (Scott Lively)

Alliance Defending Freedom (the SPLC recently attacked Attorney General Jeff Sessions for addressing this group)

American College of Pediatricians (Dr. Michelle Cretella)

American Family Association (Tim Wildmon)

American Vision

Center for Family and Human Rights (C-FAM; Austin Ruse)

Citizens for Community Values

Conservative Republicans of Texas (Dr. Steve Hotze)

Family Research Council (Tony Perkins)

Family Research Institute (Dr. Paul Cameron)

Heterosexuals Organized for a Moral Environment (H.O.M.E.)

Illinois Family Institute

Liberty Counsel (Mat Staver)

Mass Resistance (and its chapters in various states; Brian Camenker)

Mission: America (Linda Harvey)

Pacific Justice Institute (Brad Dacus)

Pass the Salt Ministries (Coach Dave Daubenmire)

Pray in Jesus Name Project (“Chaps” Klingenschmitt)

Public Advocate of the United States (Eugene Delgaudio)

Ruth Institute (Jennifer Roback Morse)

Save California (Randy Thomasson)

Traditional Values Coalition (Andrea Sheldon)

World Congress of Families/Howard Center for Family, Religion and Society (Allan Carlson)
As you can see, this is quite a large group, representing many millions of Americans and including some of the most accomplished and effective pro-family leaders in the United States. Who knew that these great Americans were the moral equivalents of neo-Nazi Stormtroopers and the Ku Klux Klan?

Hating truth

They are not, of course. Not even close. Could it be that leftists who deliberately conflate mere opposition to the LGBTQ agenda — a revolutionary sin movement that has destroyed the sanctity of marriage in the law and is leading the assault on citizens’ right to live according to the dictates of their faith with hatred— are the ones truly guilty of hate-mongering?

Common sense and logic tell us that those who resist a deviant-sex movement that has produced such profound evils as “pregnant men”; perversion-positive “Christianity”; and teaching little children that they can “become” the opposite sex though medical manipulations of their young bodies, are motivated not by malice or bigotry but rather a heartfelt desire to ward off the social destruction that comes from celebrating unnatural behaviors.

There is a popular saying in Christian, pro-family circles today: “Those who hate the truth call truth hate.”

I believe that at some level that is true, because when “journalists” cavalierly repeat politically calculated tripe like the SPLC’s “hate” smear as if it is authoritative and meaningful, they demonstrate contempt for sincere people of faith simply trying to follow God.

Besides, one of the “old school” rules of “fair” journalism is that in covering a cultural debate, you do not rely on one group’s biased characterization of its opponents, to preserve the ideal of a disinterested, neutral news story. Of course, those days are long gone as most media have shorn any pretense of objectivity and are increasingly fanatical cheerleaders for Big Gay and Big Trans. (What’s next, Big Poly?)

Go with the Big Lie

And so we behold a Fourth Estate very much interested and dutiful in advancing the “narrative” of one side of the “culture war” over homosexuality and “transgenderism,” using the noble-sounding cover of “civil rights.” Most media don’t even bother anymore to get viewpoints of the “other side” on this issue, or if they do, it’s often just a token quote to help reporters feel like they’re being fair.

This makes the SPLC’s goal of advancing its bold, pro-LGBT “hate” lie much easier than it should be.

It turns out that the “Big Lie” tactic attributed to Hitler was something he accused “the Jews” of doing in his 1925 autobiography, Mein Kampf, years before he led a demonization- and then genocidal government campaign against them. But history records that the mustached Nazi dictator and his henchmen (most notably Nazi propaganda minister Josef Goebbels) became masters of the tactic, ultimately using it as part of their horrifyingly evil program against Jews, Poles, and other “undesirables.”

Hitler wrote: “For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying.”

Today’s leftist liars understand this harsh reality and know that their “end justifies the means” approach toward delegitimizing pro-family conservatives as “hateful” bigots yields big political and cultural dividends — and scares the media away from featuring conservatives in their stories.

So rather than oppose pro-family groups civilly on public-policy issues concerning homosexuality and gender confusion (transgenderism), the Left resorts to a sophisticated version of name-calling. It began in the post-Stonewall ‘70s, as radical “gay” activists held up signs equating prominent religious opponents of organized homosexuality, like Anita Bryant, with Hitler.

From there it went to tarring their foes as “homophobes,” a term invented by pro-“gay” psychologist George Weinberg, who neatly flipped the pathology from homosexual behavior itself to opposing homosexuality.

Ultimately, the SPLC “codified” that Big Lie, as it were, with its “hate-labeling” strategy that preposterously mixes Christian, pro-family groups opposed to the LGBTQ (Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Queer) Lobby with vile neo-Nazis and white race-warriors.

The SPLC claims it is not demonizing moral and religious opposition to homosexuality but only the methods that the above conservative groups use to oppose the LGBTQ movement, but this is an absurd technicality. In another column, I will expose the arbitrariness of the SPLC’s “criteria” for determining which groups belong on its “anti-LGBT” “hate map.”

‘I’m not a hater?’

And yet, despicable as the SPLC’s hate-smear campaign is, it is highly effective. Making the spurious charge against morality-defenders as “haters” is far easier to do in our post-Christian, morally dumbed-down culture than defending oneself against the loaded accusation.

Indeed, forcing conservatives and Christians to plead defensively, “I’m not … ” is part of the SPLC’s propaganda strategy. We have become a society of simplistic slogans, like “Love is love” and “marriage equality.” In such a culture, accusing good-hearted Christians and conservatives of “hating gays” merely because they oppose (very unhealthy) homosexual behavior, “gay marriage” and creating sin-based “rights” is par for the course.

Denying that you are a “hater” when the most powerful forces in society — media, corporations, academia — are matter-of-factly echoing the SPLC smear — is sort of like denying that you beat your wife. You would never beat your wife — you are called to love her sacrificially as Christ loved the Church — but suddenly you are accused of having abused her, by an organization lionized by the press. A cunning, well-funded organization masquerading as a “civil rights” champion whose allegations are repeated far and wide with an air of moral authority and respectability.

Your pleas about the falseness of the outrageous smear are shared by friends (some similarly accused of beating their wives) but together you are drowned out by a chorus of enemies who have won the sympathy of the corrupt media.

Your only hope for justice is that a large and growing army of people — aided by some counter-cultural media leaders — comes to your aid and exposes the hateful slanders and the wicked organization behind them, so that nobody will ever believe its lies again.

This is how we must counter the SPLC’s calculated, cynical “Big Lie” against people of faith who humbly set out to speak truth, in the love of Christ, about one of the most difficult issues of our age.

Next: The shoddy research, irrationality and arbitrariness of the SPLC’s LGBT “hate group” lie.

Peter LaBarbera, Lifesite News 13 Comments [3/16/2019 6:02:32 AM]
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