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Quote# 114789

I've heard it said that Americans are sick of war. That's way many have turned a blind eye to the crimes of Islam, just sort of hoping it will all go away. It won't. Americans and indeed the world, must understand that Islam has been at war since the Crusades, we in the West just didn't realize it. So America, get over it. Buck up guys, we are at war, have been at war and will continue to be at war until we deal with the enemy and treat them as what they are: The Enemy. They are not "misguided" youth. It doesn't matter if they are a minority within Islam. The Nazi's were a minority in Germany and look what they were able to do. Those who sit in silence are just as guilty as those who blow themselves up in a children's ice cream shop or execute people at a rock concert in Paris.

Since the Crusades, we made advances in science and math, medicine and space travel. Islam grew, spread, multiplied, occupied and re-armed. Islam invaded the political aspects of some countries and just rampaged and murdered to take over others. In London the most popular boys name is Mohammed. For a hundred years, Hamtramck, Michigan was a Polish-Christian community. Then the Muslims started moving in. Now, instead of church bells on Sunday morning, you hear the call to prayer being blasted from the mosques all over the city. The political structure of the town is now majority Muslim. Hello Sharia law as soon as they figure out a way to get away with it. This is how they win in countries they can't beat by using their preferred method of butchery and force.


What to do about them? Actually, it's quite easy. We tell our Arab "friends" like the Saudi's or the Jordanians or the Turks to take them out, NOW. Give Islamic leaders a brief time to get their terrorist friends under control or to eliminate them. If they do not, if they cannot control their own, the carpet bombing will begin of any and all places we feel ISIS or any other Islamic terror group is hiding out. There is much to be said for carpet bombing. It has won wars for us in the past and can again. [...] Once all the terrorists are dead, the refugees can all go home and take back their country.

In WWII, the Germans bombed London nightly and the Brits survived. We bombed Berlin and just about every other German city to the ground and the Germans survived. The Middle East will survive, there will just be a lot fewer terrorists living there. And if they want to start up again, we can just repeat the lesson. We have a lot of bombs and bombers to drop them.

If that doesn't stop them, there are other targets that can be considered that just might get some Muslims nervous enough to send in troops to stop the madness. Perhaps the Imams will stop preaching terrorism at daily prayer and start preaching a little tolerance for non-Muslims. Mecca could be a justifiable target if Islam doesn't take steps to stop this killing being done in the name of Islam that they seem willing and happy to allow to continue and even quietly encourage.


As for Obama, don't expect him to do anything to stop an attack on America. He will do nothing. When it happens, if it happens on his watch, he will make excuses, blame America, Republicans, the "radical right" and do nothing. It seems to be what he does best. We are on our own until we have a real president in office. So America, my advice to you is do what WE THE PEOPLE do best: Lock and Load.

Barbara J. Stock, Barb Wire 21 Comments [11/26/2015 6:01:05 AM]
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Quote# 114788

So the Devil was smart with Evolution. He told the big lie: "In the beginning, God didn't create the Heavens and the Earth; it just happened by some kind of a big accident, forces working on the materials, and blah, blah, blah. Therefore, man is merely a beast who evolved from lower forms of beasts over millions of years, from one species to another, and life originated itself spontaneously from chemicals!"

This doctrine of delusion has become the general theme of modern so-called science, and is therefore no longer true science, but pure, imaginary, evolutionary bunk! Evolution is now referred to as the "great principle" of biology. But a principle, according to the dictionary, is a foundation truth, or fact, the basis of other truths. And if you know anything about evolution at all, you know it has never been proven to be either a truth or a fact, much less the foundation or the basis of other truths.

There is no proof for evolution! It has to be believed, therefore it's a faith, therefore it's a religion! Evolution is really a religion of unbelief in God. Therefore it is a LIE!!!

afchief, Christian News Network 11 Comments [11/26/2015 6:00:41 AM]
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Quote# 114785

So you believe in taking other people's hard earned labor and giving to others? That is stealing! You believe in killing babies who have no choice in life or death? That makes you a murder. You believe in sodomy marriage? That proves you have a mental disorder! You believe in quack science? That means we need to ban cow farts. Their killing our ozone!!! You believe in raising minimum wage? You believe in killing jobs. Your a pot head. No wonder you have a mental disorder!!!

afchief, CNS News 13 Comments [11/26/2015 5:59:00 AM]
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Quote# 114784

Lieberals are essentially Muslims. They have fully adopted the Muslim way of thinking, acting, communicating, lifestyle, and dealing with those who disagree with their lies. Lieberals are supportive of every fundamental feature of the Muslime way of life, only they switched some of them around for teh lulz(burkas and subservience for men instead of women). Every post critical of Islam gathers dozens of downvotes on libtard vipers nests, whereas identical posts that substitute "islam" for "christianity" gather dozens of upvotes. They are hell-bent on destroying monogamy and promoting pederasty in the family unit, cornerstones of any Muslim society. Their perception of the truth is any statement that is supported with the loudest yelling and poop-throwing from their side, whereas the slightest disagreement from the other side is deserving of utmost repressive measures - the typical Muslim debating tactic.

Be aware that when arguing with lieberals, you're actually talking to proto-Muslims. Accepting the veracity of koran and the pedoprophet will be a pure formality for them, and you won't even notice the moment when millions of your "ultra-progressive" compatriots convert to the "religion of peace" and begin stoning you for wearing a cross.

P.S. After I wrote my comment, Canadian shitlib PM (Frenchfag to boot) read my comment and decided to prove me wrong.

Lieberal = Muslim

Huskar, cracked.com 15 Comments [11/26/2015 5:58:47 AM]
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Quote# 114782

Judy Garland. Manga. Bondage Gear and Handcuffs.

These are the three sources of homo-eroticism in America. My question to you is, are homosexuals capable of demonstrating an actual analog of their own, where romantic encounters exist, that aren't hyperbolic hollywood quasi drag queens lisping (too many examples to name but collectively refered to as Camp), that aren't direct parallels to Asian hyperfeminized androgynous cartoon fantasies, and aren't a highway to hell through PVC, bondage leathers, and police cosplay?

Put another way, do gays in America have a morally sound fact behind their fiction for paired relationships? Because, as every ED topic generally requires a claim, I claim they do not. I claim that the man behind the curtain has nothing going on but an excuse to get off. I claim that the romance between same sex couples in America is driven by kink, hollywood posers, and asian cartoons about asian androgyny and frankly, pedophilic relationships which have only recently started to get outlawed.

I am claiming that all you who support American homo-eroticism can produce is vile or imitated culture, rather than romance or something culturally admirable. I do not believe you have the capacity to prove me wrong.

Micheal Noire, Gaia Online 22 Comments [11/26/2015 5:23:20 AM]
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Quote# 114781

Opinion polls of even so-called "moderate" muslims indicate an overwhelming support for the imposition of sharia law in the US and around the world. As an American it is expected you will support and defend the Constitution. Sharia law directly conflicts with the freedoms we cherish. You are allowed to espouse any belief or opinion - but that doesn't mean we have to aid and abet a death cult. And where were the editorials supporting bakers that didn't want to make a cake because of their religious beliefs? Will this editorial board denounce the mosques when they refuse to perform gay marriages? Spare me your self-righteous preening. You'll be calling those of us that rightly resist muslim aggression racists (it's an ideological religion - not a race - trying reading up on it) even as they saw your heads off for offending their tender sensibilities. And don't worry Democrats - if you let a few more welfare cases through the border, even the christian syrians - you'll still be able to buy their votes. How about we use our tax dollars on homeless vets and not on so-called refugees (funny that they don't just go to a nearby, rich, muslim nation like Kuwait - I forgot - they are allowed to defend their borders). A government that can't run a website can't vet 1000s of men that were probably celebrating the attacks on Paris only a few days ago.

GMU1993, Fredericksburg Freelance Star 20 Comments [11/26/2015 5:22:56 AM]
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Quote# 114780

A meeting Tuesday evening to discuss a proposed Islamic mosque in Spotsylvania County quickly turned combative, with one man proclaiming, “Every Muslim is a terrorist.”
Samer Shalaby, a trustee of the Islamic Center of Fredericksburg, began what was advertised as a “community meeting” with a moment of silence for the victims of Friday’s terrorist attack in Paris. After the moment, a man said, “Amen and thank you!” and another person proclaimed “praise God!”
Shalaby then started a presentation on the Islamic Center’s plan to build an 8,000-square-foot mosque at the corner of Old Plank Road and Andora Drive. The mosque would move there from its current location on Harrison Road, across State Route 3 from Harrison Crossing.

But it didn’t take long before Shalaby was interrupted by a man who said, “Nobody, nobody, nobody wants your evil cult.”
Some people in the packed room at the Chancellor Community Center—including opponents of the project—expressed disagreement, while others clapped.

“I will do everything in my power to make sure this does not happen because you are terrorists,” the man continued. “Every one of you are terrorists.”

Unnamed Protester , Fredericksburg Freelance Star 9 Comments [11/26/2015 5:22:52 AM]
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Quote# 114779

Yeah, but what makes you think that pants are a man’s garment?"

Good question. I have a four part answer to this which demonstrates that pants always pertain to men, even today.

"Breeches" were an article of clothing designed by God for the priests who were all men. The word does not occur very often in scripture, but in every case it’s men’s apparel (Exodus 28:42, Leviticus 6:10, 16:4). According to my Hebrew lexicon, "breeches" means "trousers that extend to the knee, below the knee, or to the ankles." This would include pants, shorts, or culottes that really can not be considered cullottes but simply baggy shorts.
Until the advent of Hollywood and the movie screen, everyone (including lost people) knew that pants were men’s apparel and dresses were women’s apparel, and they dressed accordingly. Our culture’s (and sadly most churches’) acceptance of cross-dressing has resulted largely from the influence of television, the placement of women in the workforce, and the pressures of twentieth century feminism.
The universal symbol for designating a men’s bathroom is a stick figure wearing a pair of pants. The universal symbol for designating a woman’s bathroom is a stick figure wearing a dress. Coincidence? Hardly. Even our sinful society recognizes that there is a difference in a man’s and woman’s clothing.
Pants are a symbol of authority, as evidenced by the saying " I’m the one who wears the pants in the family." Sadly, most women might as well wear the pants, since they rule their homes anyway!

unknown, Mom of 9's place 19 Comments [11/26/2015 5:22:43 AM]
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Quote# 114778

Although I believe this Scripture is specifically referencing the Transvestite, what else can we learn here? Go to your local mall and watch the teenaged girls dressing and carrying themselves like gangster boys! Baggy jeans, t-shirts, short messy hair, pierced body parts! When we smudge the clear lines of the differences in the sexes, this is where we end up! Open a magazine that has women's business-wear in it. You'll see slightly feminized men's business suits. Even the shoes look like men's! If it's a business suit with a skirt, then the skirt is short and sexy and the rest looks manly! We have a wonderful medley of masculinity AND immodesty all packaged nicely for today´s modern career woman!

Stacy McDonald, Mom of 9's place 10 Comments [11/26/2015 5:22:28 AM]
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Quote# 114776

The article quotes me telling the photographer that he need not investigate the background of every wedding he performs, but they do not quote the next sentence: “But when there is an obvious deviation from the biblical reality, sacrifice the business for the conscience, your own and those of the ones in your orbit who would be confused.”

Here’s why this matters. The photographer has, in most cases, no ability or authority to find out the sorts of things a pastor or church elders would about a marrying couple. Most evangelical Christians, this one included, believe there are circumstances in which it is biblically moral for a divorced person to remarry. And all Christians—regardless of what we think about a church’s responsibility—think that marriages between otherwise qualified unbelieving men and women are good things, grounded in a creation ordinance.

It’s possible, of course, that the man and woman who’ve contracted with a wedding singer are just marrying to get a green card. It’s possible that they don’t plan to be faithful to one another. It’s possible that she’s already married to three other men. It’s possible that their love is just a reality show stunt. Or, to take us back to Corinth, it’s possible the blushing bride is the groom’s ex-stepmother. But unless the photographer has a reason to think this, he needn’t hire a private investigator or ask for birth certificates and court papers to make sure it’s not.

In the case of a same-sex marriage, the marriage is obviously wrong, in every case. There are no circumstances in which a man and a man or a woman and a woman can be morally involved in a sexual union (I have no reason to assume that Powers and Merritt disagree with apostolic Christianity on this point. If so, they should make that clear).

Now, the question at hand was one of pastoral counsel. How should a Christian think about his own decision about whether to use his creative gifts in a way that might, he believes, celebrate something he believes will result in eternal harm to others. I recognize there are some blurry lines at some of these points. But what isn’t blurry is the question of state coercion.

It’s of no harm to anyone else if Kirsten Powers and Jonathan Merritt (both of whom I love) think me to be a hypocrite. It’s fine for the Daily Beast to ridicule the sexual ethic of the historic Christian church, represented confessionally across the divide of Catholicism, Protestantism, and Orthodoxy. It’s quite another thing for the state to coerce persons through fines and penalties and licenses to use their creative gifts to support weddings they believe to be sinful.

That’s broader than just homosexuality. I don’t want wedding singers forced to use their lyrics and voices to tell us how great it is that Herod and Herodias or Henry VIII and fill-in-the-blank wife’s name are soul-mates.

This article maintains that there are no circumstances in which the Bible “calls Christians to deny services to people who are engaging in behavior they believe violates the teachings of Christianity regarding marriage.” Really?

Does that apply only to the morality of marriage? Should a Christian (or Muslim or Orthodox Jewish or feminist New Age) web designer be compelled to develop a site platform for a legal pornography company?

Now, again, we might debate the best ways to see to it that consciences are protected by law and in the courts. But acting as though those concerned about such things are the reincarnation of Jim Crow is unworthy of this discussion. Moreover, the implications for conscience protection are broad and long-lasting. This isn’t just a tit-for-tat Internet discussion. The lives and livelihoods of real people are on the line, all because they won’t render unto Caesar (or to Mammon) that which they believe belongs to God.

Russell Moore, Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission 8 Comments [11/26/2015 5:20:27 AM]
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Quote# 114771

Let us answer the question, "How can I make a man of my boy?"

1. Dress him like a man. As soon as his hair gets a bit shaggy, have it cut! It is better that little Johnny start life being masculine than to retain those beautiful ringlets at the age of two. Cut off those ringlets and make him look like a man. From the very first time that he is old enough to wear clothes, dress him like a boy, cut his hair like a boy, and make sure he always looks like a man. Teach him to be around boys that dress like boys. Teach him it is not Scriptural for a boy or man to have long hair or effeminate tastes in clothing. Read I Corinthians 11:14.

Make him play with boys and with boys' toys and games. Let him play with guns, cars, baseballs, basketballs, and footballs. As soon as I could I taught my boy to play baseball and football. When he was about thirteen I bought him an air rifle. When he was fifteen I bought him a .22 rifle. Invariably, when someone admits to me he is a homosexual he relates that he played a lot with girls and participated in feminine activities.

Jack Hyles, JESUS IS SAVIOR 28 Comments [11/26/2015 5:18:33 AM]
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Quote# 114768

[From an article titled, "Three Media Lies About Syrian Refugees"]

1. The "Refugees" Are Not Fleeing Persecution, They're Welfare Migrants


Muslims are not fleeing to Europe because of religious persecution, but for economic reasons. They specifically seek out countries such as Germany and Sweden with generous welfare states.

The media loves offering false analogies to Jewish refugees during the Holocaust. But the Jews were a stateless people then. They had no country of their own to go to. Muslims have more countries than nearly every other religion on the planet. They choose to go to the wealthiest Western countries, rejecting Slovenia and Bulgaria for Germany and Sweden, because they want money and they want easy money.

Syrian Muslims are not refugees. They're migrants. Only Christians and other non-Muslims are refugees.

While Muslims have easy access to UN refugee camps in Muslim countries, Christians have trouble surviving there. But by outsourcing our immigration to the UN's refugee infrastructure, we abandon Christian refugees and instead take in Muslim welfare migrants. And that is truly shameful.

There is no reason for us to provide special privileges for Muslim economic migrants. [...] We already take in far more immigrants every year than we can afford.

It's time for our leaders to put our country and our people first.

2. Taking in "Refugees" Helps ISIS


ISIS not only embeds its terrorists as refugees in Europe, but it depends on European Muslims for recruits. Thousands of European Muslims ahve already left to join ISIS. Even those Syrian migrants that may be opposed to the group will have children that will provide a recruiting reserve for ISIS or other groups like it. Without the refugees and children of refugees in Europe from previous generations, ISIS might not even have enough fighters. And the refugees make it easier for ISIS to attack Europe.

Even those Syrians who will never support ISIS and whose children will never support it aid ISIS just by leaving the country. The large numbers of military age men are in part fleeing to avoid being drafted to fight ISIS. Potential ISIS opponents who leave Syria for permanent resettlement in Europe or America make it easier for the Islamic State to consolidate its control over the country.

Every time Europe or America takes in a military age Syrian as a refugee, they are helping ISIS by aiding deserters from the Syrian military, the Free Syrian Army and other groups that are fighting ISIS.

During WW2, we weren't encouraging British soldiers to run away and move to America. So why are human rights activists helping ISIS by encouraging Syrian deserters to flee the fight against ISIS?

3. Vetting Syrian Migrants is Impossible

Syria is a non-functioning state and a state sponsor of terror. We can't rely on it and that means we have to rely on information from UNHCR. The UN refugee agency is incompetent and overloaded. Its employees are corrupt and have a history of selling refugee cards to the highest bidder.

It's UNHCR that decides who qualifies for resettlement and any vetting we do afterward is cosmetic.


The only way to be absolutely sure is not to allow any potential terrorists into the country. It's a much safer bet than assuming that the same system that failed to stop the World Trade Center bombing, 9/11, the Boston Marathon bombing and other terrorist attacks will work exactly when we need it to.

Migrants arriving from terror states are unsafe at any degree of vetting. Our system has failed before and will fail again. We owe it to our children and our loved ones to protect them from the next attack.

And our leaders owe it to us to stop lying about the risks of Muslim migration to our families and our future.

Daniel Greenfield, Rapture Forums 12 Comments [11/26/2015 5:16:47 AM]
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Quote# 114767

[From a series of articles titled, "God, Guns and American in the End Time - Would Jesus Carry Concealed?"]

While the title may be jocular, the subject of gun control is a serious end of the age matter. Like many social issues that dominate the headlines in the run up to the rapture, calls for gun control following mass shootings are more than they appear. It isn't just about controlling guns to prevent mass shootings. It's about control, period.

Bible prophecy foretells that in the last days the world will accept a leader called the antichrist who will control the world based on a three-legged stool consisting of one world economy, one world government and one world religion. To accomplish this agenda there must first be control. In order to establish one world government it is necessary to control the populace. An unarmed populace is easy pickings for a dictator.

That is the ultimate goal of all gun control plans; to disarm freedom-loving Americans under the pretense of accomplishing a public good.


All of the elements necessary for the rise of the antichrist after the rapture and during the tribulation hinge on reducing or destroying Christian America. Here in the US many of our secular progressive/liberal leaders are doing their part in this evil control scheme by enacting regulations that will ultimately result in tyrannical authoritarian power over the masses. A major facet of this scheme is called "gun control." Its goal serves the purposes of Satan in the preparatory steps necessary to install to power, and eventually indwell the antichrist to rule a world lacking much of the restraining power on evil provided by the Holy Spirit after the removal of Christians during the rapture.


Because America remains a Christian nation containing a majority of freedom-loving citizens, at least until the rapture, Satan is forced to undermine that base of support using a two-pronged attack. First, he influences mentally unbalanced individuals to commit mass shootings that play into the hands of liberals who rush to decry the slaughter by blaming the instrumentality of the crime, firearms, while expressing nary a whisper about the personal responsibility of the killers.

It is important to remember that due to Satan's deceit, every step necessary to usher in the one world government of the antichrist will appear to be logical, wise and irresistible. That is why gun control is so appealing to many of those lacking in spiritual discernment amid a world awash in wanton and unrepentant sin. The second prong works hand in hand with the first. Satan wields one of his most powerful weapons; the propagandists of the secular progressive elites dominating the mainstream media (MSM) to demonize gun owners.

Dean T. Olson, Rapture Forums 12 Comments [11/26/2015 4:57:04 AM]
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Quote# 114766

The reliable predictability of material behaviour at the atomic level is apparently dependent on the probability of certain quantum events taking place at a specific place and time.  This led to Enstein's famous quote -  "God does not play dice".  I would suggest that the cause of these quantum events is not random, but defined by an undetectable source which is specifically induced to give reality the nature we perceive.  In other words, most quantum events are controlled by God's will.  And He may have delegated other quantum events to be controlled by other sources of free will.

Alan Burns, Religion and Ethics 10 Comments [11/26/2015 4:56:57 AM]
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Quote# 114765

I couldn't get all the components for my experiment in my lab. so we will have to work with our imaginations but using the Holy Bible and modern science as our tram-lines to keep us on target.

Notice that within our cloud of dark matter we have a huge imploding hole surrounded by masses of this dense material which was now being sucked into this spinning black-hole, filling it and overfilling it, spewing out massless stars, one after the other  whilst, simultaneously, massive shock-waves were emanating out from this crash-site which was passing through every other cloud in the universe whipping them up into a spinning frenzy, and, at the same time, blowing them away from the source so that an expanding universes came into being...and why this was taking place the spinning massless galaxy clouds were turning into spiralling hurricanes, sucking into the eye of their storms, massless solar balls of energy, each one spiralling up their individual hurricane columns before being centrifugally discharged from the rim of this hurricane's storm force out into the surrounding space taking up the form of a spiralling galaxy. 

I cannot think of a better explanation for the universe we see before us today...and we haven't yet, made a single atom ...but we will...and it is all possible because the Holy Bible and modern science concur...There is a superabundant, invisible, almost undetectable, dynamic energy, out there in the great abyss we call space.

NicholasMarks, Religion and Ethics 7 Comments [11/26/2015 4:56:41 AM]
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Quote# 114763

[On the 2015 Paris attacks:]

I am nauseated by the candlelight vigils, buildings lit-up in the colors of France, and all the misty-eyed speeches by celebrities. Here is a useful list to help our liberal friends to identify the problem:

The Hebdo attack were Muslims.
The Shoe Bomber was a Muslim.
The Beltway Snipers were Muslims.
The Fort Hood Shooter was a Muslim.
The underwear Bomber was a Muslim.
The U-S.S. Cole Bombers were Muslims.
The Madrid Train Bombers were Muslims.
The Bafi Nightclub Bombers were Muslims.
The London Subway Bombers were Muslims.
The Moscow Theatre Attackers were Muslims.
The Boston Marathon Bombers were Muslims.
The Pan-Am flight #93 Bombers were Muslims.
The Air France Entebbe Hijackers were Muslims.
The Iranian Embassy Takeover, was by Muslims.
The Beirut U.S. Embassy bombers were Muslims.
The Libyan U.S. Embassy Attack was by Muslims.
The Buenos Aires Suicide Bombers were Muslims.
The Israeli Olympic Team Attackers were Muslims.
The Kenyan U.S, Embassy Bombers were Muslims.
The Saudi, Khobar Towers Bombers were Muslims.
The Beirut Marine Barracks bombers were Muslims.
The Besian Russian School Attackers were Muslims.
The first World Trade Center Bombers were Muslims.
The Bombay & Mumbai India Attackers were Muslims.
The Achille Lauro Cruise Ship Hijackers were Muslims.
The September 11th 2001 Airline Hijackers were Muslims.

French President Hollande declared a state of emergency and put the entire city of Paris under lockdown. This has been the first mandatory curfew in Paris since 1944. The reason why all citizens of Paris were made prisoners in their own homes is because of an inability to confront the root cause of the problem - Islam.

Terror experts were quick to talk about new security measures for Paris, but you can't put a net over the whole city. Israel struggled with Palestinian terror in the 2000s, and found the only solution was to isolate the Palestinians from accessing her territory.

France is already overrun with Muslims. Around 10 percent of the population are followers of the Islamic faith. Before the French can even talk about kicking some of the more extreme Muslims out of the country, they need to stop new ones from pouring across their border.

Islam should be a pariah religion. Since it was given a pass after 9/11 and a long list of other terrorist attacks, the Imams of this faith can smile and say, "Don't look at me."


One possible explanation for why Islam seems to be given a free hand to cause havoc in the world is that the stage is being set for the Antichrist to deal with them. Being the ultimate problem solver, he may win the favor of Europeans by declaring war on Islamic terror.

Todd Strandberg, Rapture Forums 17 Comments [11/25/2015 7:32:36 PM]
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Quote# 114762

[On ISIS:]

If we don't hit the terrorists where they live, they will kill us where we live. That is the lesson of 9/11. It's the lesson of the latest Paris attacks. It's the lesson of every Islamic terrorist attack.

We can bomb them in Iraq and Syria, in Afghanistan and Pakistan, or we can be murdered by them in New York, Paris, Los Angeles and London.

Obama officials said that they didn't want to hit ISIS with "shock-and-awe" style bombings. If they had done that, the Paris attacks might have been prevented.

Had ISIS been hit hard, some of the fighters who made their way to France might have been killed. Or they might have been needed back in Syria and Iraq. Or they might have abandoned ship once the Caliphate failed and the Islamic State's pretenses of theological supremacy were exposed by its collapse.

Instead of fighting ISIS, Obama has faked a fight, concentrating on drone strikes and hashtags, and doctoring intelligence to make it look like these tactics are working.


We're not going to defeat ISIS with hashtags. We're not going to defeat it by calling it Daesh. We are not going to defeat it by taking out one of its leaders every few months.

We can only defeat the Caliphate by destroying it.

Obama had told the Pentagon that we can't defeat ISIS with guns. But ISIS had no problem massacring almost a hundred people in Paris with guns. We don't need "better ideas," as Obama suggested, to beat ISIS. Our civilization is already a better idea. It just needs defending from the barbarians at the gates.


The free world needs a Caliphate Doctrine. It must state clearly and unambiguously that any attempt to build a Caliphate, to subjugate territories to Islamic law with all its accompanying barbarism, and to demand the surrender of the rest of humanity through terror, will be met with utter destruction.

Not drone strikes. Not hashtags. Not calls for moderate Islam. Not even the "shock-and-awe" that Obama officials nervously disavowed. But the destruction that Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan faced after they attempted to impose the rule of a master race and ideology on the world through terror.

If we do not want another century of fear, then we must make the Islamic State into an example.

Daniel Greenfield, Frontpage Mag 12 Comments [11/25/2015 7:32:25 PM]
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Quote# 114761

[On the 2015 Paris attacks, all of which were likely perpetrated by European nationals:]

Before the man carrying a passport in the name of Ahmed Almohammad blew himself up at France's national soccer stadium, he came on a boat from Turkey with hundreds of refugees. He passed through Greece, Serbia and Croatia, along with countless other migrants, accompanied no doubt by journalists and human rights workers eager to document the plight of the "refugees." [...] His passport may have been real. It may have been fake. No one was likely to notice. The name on his passport was not on an Interpol warrant. And so he was allowed into the heart of Europe.


Any talk of vetting is nothing more than plausible deniability. Unless a terrorist is already in our database, vetting him is a lost cause. Our system couldn't handle the World Trade Center bombers or the 9/11 hijackers and they came from functional countries that weren't in the middle of a civil war.

We are not going to be able to vet tens of thousands of people who claim they come from Syria, who have fake passports or who plead that they lost their passports at sea, whose names can be rendered in enough ways to give even a linguist a headache and who will get access to the United States long enough for them to disappear even if we did eventually turn up something on them.


ISIS may have carried out the brutal massacres in Paris, but Hollande, Merkel and the other friends of the refugees helped make it happen. And they want to help make it happen around the world.

The migrant crisis is an invasion. The bodies in Paris could just as easily have been stacked up in any country that was foolish and feckless enough to open the door to ISIS by taking in "refugees".

If Obama and Kerry succeed in their plan to bring tens of thousands of Syrian migrants to America, the next brutal massacre might not happen in Paris. It might happen in one of our cities instead.

Daniel Greenfield, Frontpage Mag 5 Comments [11/25/2015 7:32:17 PM]
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The Secular Humanist Afterlife

Secular humanism comes up short as a religion because its beginning is unconvincing and its ending unappealing.

"In the beginning was the Bib Bang, and for no reason at all everything just started up, and by pure chance, non-living dust and chemicals came alive and finally evolved into Hillary Clinton..." That's somewhat less inspiring, and falls far short of St. John's "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God..."

But the end of humanist theology is worse than the beginning: you just die, fizzle out, kaput, that's it. So if you had a hard life, too bad. There's no God to give you justice, no God to show you mercy, no Heavenly Father to bind up your wounds and wipe away your tears.

In between the iffy beginning and the worms'-meat ending, humanists have worked hard to fill up their religion's middle.

They have their holy scriptures, written by Marx and Darwin and Freud et al, which may not be disbelieved. They have several orders of priesthood-scientists, academics, public school teachers, feminists, homosexuals, and progressive politicians, whose word is law. They have an awesome idol - the ever-expanding, all-devouring, freedom-eating, wealth-consuming State, whose destiny it is to rule the world. And in Global Warming they have their own End Times scenario.

They have their own sacraments, including human sacrifice. Abortion: "I now consider abortion to be a major blessing, and to be a sacrament in the hands of women," as one feminist put it. You can even have Native American flute music with your abortion - how cool is that?

Lee Duigon, Barb Wire 17 Comments [11/25/2015 7:32:09 PM]
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Quote# 114759

For Christians who study Bible prophecy, interfaith and ecumenism are ominous signs of the nearness of the coming time of Great Tribulation spelled out in the last book of the Bible. This seven-year period will be a time of judgment on the earth when the Antichrist will rise to power allied with a global church the Apostle John identifies as the Mother of Harlots.

It is interesting that the Roman Catholic Church calls herself the "Mother Church." The question needs to be asked, if she is a "Mother" than who are the "Harlots" she gave birth to?


If people can be convinced that all religions are equal, all people are brothers and sisters, the Earth is sacred, and inclusiveness of all and any beliefs is honorable, then when the man speaking those swelling words arrives, he will be embraced. The only obstacles are Bible-believing Christians and Islamic suicide bombers. Those obstacles to progress have to go.

Jackie Alnor, Scattered Sheep 9 Comments [11/25/2015 7:32:01 PM]
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Quote# 114758

I now know what happened at Charisma and I will not be coming back. Read my email to and from them here;

On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 4:21 PM,

Charisma, can I (afchief) have permission to post again?

Hello afchief

We had removed your account in an attempt to try and bring some civility back into our comments section. You were only one of multiple people removed in this effort. It worked. Although there is still bickering and disagreeable people the level of vitriol is down and the number of conversions that remain civil through to the end is up significantly.

You had a tendency to pick fights, inject yourself into other people's conversions (degrading them into arguments) and belittling or mock people who you didn't agree with. You were almost always in "attack mode" and that's not what we're looking for. If you only posted once in while we might have been able to ignore it but you were so prolific in your posting that you often seemed to take over the comments section of some articles, driving away people who just wanted to have a real or civil conversion without being attacked.

The thought of restoring your access makes me (and the other moderators) nervous. We don't want to give up the gains we've made our community. We are developing other steps to further stress the need for civility.

This is one of those situations where if we were to restore your access it would require that you make a commitment to change how you act and treat others on our sites. This would require not only that you don't do what you did before but also that you don't let others drag you down (ie, if someone you disagree with tries to pick a fight, you don't bite, you take the higher ground, even if that means ending/ignoring the conversion). Only you know if you can make that sort of change and only you can decide if it's worth it.

Drew Glaser
Internet Manager
Charisma Media

On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 6:28 PM,

Civility? You mean being politically correct? Was Jesus civil when He said "You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father." John 8:44? Was Jesus civil when He said “ “But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, because you shut off the kingdom of heaven from people; for you do not enter in yourselves, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in. 14 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, because you devour widows’ houses, and for a pretense you make long prayers; therefore you will receive greater condemnation.

Does speaking the truth scare you Mr Glaser? Apparently so! You don't want lies confronted. You do not want sin confronted. You want to be politically correct. How sad! Paul said in Ephesians 5:11 Do not participate in the unfruitful deeds of darkness, but instead even expose them; I guess to be "civil" we are to embrace, encourage, and love those who practice such fruitless acts and not expose them. Is this what Charisma is all about?

I was told a long time ago by several Spirit filled Christians to get off of your website because of false doctrine. I truly now see why.

In closing do not restore my account.

In Jesus, afchief

Hello afchief,

Your reply is a perfect example of why you're not mature enough to return to our community. I'll gladly keep you banned. I hope that one day you'll find peace.

Drew Glaser
Internet Manager
Charisma Media

Mature enough? Wow! Your site truly has become politically correct and afraid of the truth. The proof is in the pudding by who you allow to post on your site. Having people like Mensa Member who has changed his name several times on your site and claims to be a Christian but lies continuously shows me that you have a double standard.

Last month myself, Ax2root, Adam in Christ and another poster met on another site and discussed the reasons we were banned. We came to the conclusion that we are the few that do not separate our faith from anything and are not afraid to speak out about it. It is quite apparent Mr Glaser you are. You and your staff are more concerned about being politically correct then standing for truth and righteousness as evident of your previous email. Sad!

No I have no desire to come back to a website where you are not allowed to speak truth. Where you are not allowed confront lies and sin. It is quite apparent we live in a time where deception has never been more prevalent.

In Jesus, afchief

afchief, End of the American Dream  36 Comments [11/25/2015 4:01:58 AM]
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Quote# 114757

Ok, let's just think about this. A few billion years ago our planet came into existence by a big bang. Our planet happened to be within inches of burning or freezing if it moved to or away from the sun. Next, a cell, a piece of bacteria or whatever just formed out of nowhere. It had perfect conditions to grow. No heat, cold. snow. It had air and everything it needed to grow. After millions of years it grew into a monkey and other thousands of species whom were ALL asexual. Now ALL due to random chance a female and male monkey formed at the same time. Each developing reproduction systems that were made to come together.

This was all by random chance????? Do you realize how DUMB and idiotic this sounds???? That two animals formed at the SAME time to reproduce????? Oh wait, I know they were asexual and the female popped out a male and female to mate. Oh brother, what a lie!!!!!

It takes MORE faith to believe in this garbage than to believe there is a creator who created us all.

afchief, Christian News Network 35 Comments [11/25/2015 4:00:46 AM]
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Quote# 114756

The deterioration of family values R2 Sine World War 2 when women were encouraged to join the work force en mass, to replace the men who went to war and keep the economy and war effort going. There has been a trend where a mother was not at home to take care of her children, monitor their behavior, help with the homework and discipline when and where necessary. The advancement in technology has harmed family values. The Media and Television has totally destroyed any comprehension of values in our society. The lack of discipline and total disregard for authority and respect is clear to anyone who has watched the past 50 years and seen our society's values deteriorate.


In today's society a teacher is not permitted to discipline a student, the teachers will be sued, not to mention that teachers fears for their safety. Parents in today's society are also restricted as to how to discipline their children, in many cases parents are getting sued. In many cases children would never dream of treating their parents with such disrespect 50 years ago. Today some parents are afraid of their own children.


The family is the most basic unit of any society or nation. Without healthy, functioning families, a culture cannot survive. God created marriage as the unity of one man and one woman. This has been both the legal and traditional understanding of a marriage - literally - for millennia, since Eden. Sadly, many radical activist groups in the U.S. are attempting to twist the law to change the definition of marriage and the family to include same-sex "marriage," polygamy, polyamory, and other structures. These groups scoff at the idea that there is any fixed or known set of values or beliefs is generally good for families or culture. We should fight against numerous attacks on marriage and family values, including efforts to:

• Allow children unlimited access to pornography over the Internet in public libraries

• Allow those engaging in homosexual behavior to have preference to adopt children and be foster parents

• Allow those engaging in homosexual behavior to serve openly in the military

• Expose children to explicit sex education materials contrary to parental approval

• Deny parents the right the raise their children before God as they see fit

jay draiman, Aish.com 23 Comments [11/25/2015 4:00:25 AM]
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Quote# 114755

Today, the word “Patriarchy” is a dirty word. We hear from the left that it is oppressive; we hear from the right that it is abused. There are websites across the internet dedicated to the downfall of patriarchy. Funny thing, normally, what the world sees as bad, the Bible sees as good. We see in the Bible that Patriarchy is sprinkled throughout. I would like to show what true Patriarchy is and why so many men and women are actually happier in a patriarchal family; the worldview that so many disdain.

“There has been 6% increase in women staying at home in the past decade as women realize what is more important; family.”

Patriarchy, or simply defined as, “Father Ruled,” is scattered all throughout the Bible. We see in Genesis that God made man first and later created a woman because, “It was not good that man was alone.” God made a beautiful woman to be a helper to the man. This role was designed and instituted by God to display an attribute of Himself. The Hebrew word for “helper” is only used again throughout the Bible in describing God Himself to His people. This is how high and lofty a woman’s calling is. When the woman sinned, God went to Adam first because the Man was the one who was primarily responsible. We see Adam, the man, being the ruler of his house. This is the quintessential prototype of the family.

Moving past creation, the use of covenants and genealogies were centered around the Men/Heads of Households (Gen 35, 36, Ex 6, 1 Chron 4, Matt 1). Yes, we also see that there are women listed in these genealogies (Tamar, Rahab, Ruth, Uriah’s wife [Bathsheba], and Mary to name a few). However, everyone knows that the exception to the rule, proves there is a rule. This pattern clearly shows that familial lines transferred through the males. God established his covenants through male representatives; it was to men and their offspring. We struggle thinking this is unfair; it is important to note that this is not unfair. God is not being unjust by putting men in charge. God is not a tyrannical dictator nor is His design for this—because we are created in His image (Gen 1:26-27). If you think God is unfair, just remember, what is fair, is for God to annihilate all mankind, for we have sinned before His Holiness. Every breath we have been given is a gift; this unfairness mentality that is pervasive in this culture is childish, immature, arrogant, and sinful. Rejoice that life isn’t fair!

“Men are 40% more likely than women to be the victim of a violent crime. Patriarchy abuses women is a lie; rape culture is a lie.”

Under a patriarchal family; all of a woman’s needs are taken care of. She is freed up to take care of her precious little ones, instead of needing to worry about where the next meal will come from. When the father dies, the eldest son (typically) takes over his father’s responsibilities. This would have included caring for and protecting, his mother, brothers, sisters, and their families, as well as managing the father’s estate and possessions. In a loving Patriarchal family, the women of the family were under the caring protection of the head of the household. These women were under their responsibility; if there was abuse, the man was ultimately held responsible before God.

Men were designed to be rulers over their households. Women were designed to be man’s helper as he takes dominion. When man fulfills his role, he is satisfied; when woman fulfills her role, she is satisfied. Issues arise when the man or woman is fighting their role; men shirking responsibility or women trying to usurp man’s authority. Because of sin and this cursed world, we have people head butting, creating abuse and oppression. The 21st century mindset is the opposite of this way of living.

The essence of Patriarchy is Biblical. When it is pure and loving, women flourish. A woman is most happy when she is submitting to God, which means submission to his design. Patriarchy is the familial system that is interwoven throughout the entire Bible. It brings purpose to both men and to women. It is a beautiful picture of Christ and His Church—His Bride. What better example to give our children is there than that?

Lilyofthevallies, disciples perspective  19 Comments [11/25/2015 3:59:56 AM]
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Quote# 114750

At least ISIS got respectable end goal they jus want to re-establish the Muslim caliphate that ruled peacefully in that region for centuries

Tuge, Twitter 25 Comments [11/25/2015 3:53:31 AM]
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