Quote# 128331

I recommend doxxing [people who rat out drug dealers] and placing their information on the deep web.
You see, if they move away and escape any drug dealers looking for retaliation, they could still face punishment for their crimes against freedom from people on the deep web who are unrelated to the drug dealers. I mean to be honest, I support killing them.

If you want to give them some hilarious irony, then SWAT them. Call a bomb threat on their home, hopefully a SWAT cop with a lose finger will accidently shoot them in their homes. That would be the most hilariously ironic end for them.


[[What the fuck is wrong with you?!]]


I don't like it when people threaten industries that provide me with the services that I want...You're a fascist who thinks that people ought to be denied the right to trade goods and services voluntarily.

NAPnationalist, Deviantart forums 12 Comments [6/21/2017 4:03:33 AM]
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Submitted By: Lady Troodon

Quote# 128323

We're here as witnesses to the truth of Jesus Christ, and he's already made those judgements. He said, Jesus said, "Abortion is murder, homosexuality is a sin, Islam is a lie, evolution is a delusion, feminism is rebellion" and we can pitch on that, "liberalism is false religion and conservatism is pretend salt".

'Coach' Dave Daubenmire, Facebook video 23 Comments [6/19/2017 9:45:45 PM]
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Submitted By: Citizen Justin

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Adam Ford, Adam4d 12 Comments [6/21/2017 4:21:12 AM]
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Submitted By: Daspletosaurus

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Adam Ford, Adam4d 13 Comments [6/21/2017 4:21:41 AM]
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Submitted By: Daspletosaurus

Quote# 128344

(FSTDT fanfiction!)

This is an answer for the Reptilian Jew and the FSTDT coven:

Pharaoh Bastethotep: “Okay, I’d like to commmission a voluptous torbie catgirl in pearly power armour, riding a kirin through an alien fungal jungle with a tricorder in her hand, from outa my Tulpa creating lamp, of an Illuminated Fiery brain.”

Vman: “Dafuq, did I just read yer right? That’s, Airily politically incorrect…Bastethotep… Better to Flee, before you’ll get picked up by the Thought-Police for that porny Entartete Kunst comment”

Pharaoh Bastethotep: “Damn it to Fiery Amenta! Okay, I’d like to commmission a transgender cat-girl-boy in black power armour, riding a drone through the policed urban jungle, with a rainbow flag in her-his, its, Fornicating hand, from outa my over-watched brain.”

Adey: “Sheesh! Drinking the bong Water is not a good idea. So quit doing it guys. Fight your addiction! As the great joker said, “I don’t do Drugs, I am Drugs.”

Anon-e-moose: “Don’t know about the others intake of addictive Foods on this here FSTDT coven forum. But I don’t do drugs, Adey; I’m going cyber druggie beyond my Earthy Persona.

Anon-e-moose: continues: “The 55 Gb installation file for “DOOM IV” is downloadable via the Bethesda/id Software site, no box required. Get with the times, ‘boys and girls;’ its yer reactive Reptilian-brain-stem, which is initiating these Elemental four F’s games.”

Faustus Crow, FAUSTUS CROW 26 Comments [6/21/2017 4:30:41 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 128273

(OP is actually a leftist and has a Che Guevara quote in her twitter bio, in case there's any confusion)

Hi to all the liberals saying they are #AllRepublicansToday

What if I told you, you are actually Republicans everyday?

It's true.

Kiran Opal, Twitter 7 Comments [6/21/2017 3:38:06 AM]
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Quote# 128354

Bloodshed is coming to America, and it won’t be a response to oppression but the result of aggression – against God and our constitutional form of government.

Jason & David Benham, WND 11 Comments [6/21/2017 4:17:41 AM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 128355

If the drumbeat of verbal attacks, leaks and otherwise destructive assaults on President Donald J. Trump, his family, those around him and their supporters do not soon abate, expect right-wing militias and other reactive vigilantes to spring into action, resulting in a full-fledged civil war, with blood flowing in our neighborhoods and streets.

Larry Klayman, WND 18 Comments [6/21/2017 4:17:56 AM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

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Adam Ford, Adam4d 17 Comments [6/21/2017 4:20:24 AM]
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Submitted By: Daspletosaurus

Quote# 118905

If Heaven and Hell are the only options, isn’t that a dictatorship?

A dictatorship is an absolute overbearing power, usually in governmental form, where the people in the country have no freedom. But that is not the case with God. Heaven and Hell are the only options available according to Biblical theology. You see, Heaven is the presence of God, and Hell is the absence of God. You are either with God or not with God. There aren't any other options. So, God declaring that these are the options doesn't mean He's a dictator. It means He's informing us of how things really are--that there are only two options available.

Furthermore, people have the freedom to reject God and His great love shown to us in the person of Jesus Christ who was crucified, died, was buried, and rose from the dead for our sins (1 Cor. 15:1-4). If God were a dictator, then He would not allow people to make the choices to either follow Him or reject Him. If God were a dictator, He would force everyone to believe what He wants them to believe. Since God does not do this, He is not a dictator.

Matt Slick, CARM 30 Comments [5/13/2016 3:16:32 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 128318

seaearthponies You don't know what you are talking about. All mental illness comes from the devil.?

Nate Lindquist, youtube 7 Comments [6/21/2017 3:56:42 AM]
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Submitted By: P.E.T.F

Quote# 128365

(Because there are so many similarities between gay people and bank robbers....)

There are many former homosexuals, just like there are many former alcoholics, former drug addicts, former prostitutes, former adulterers, former bank robbers, former atheists, former thieves, etc...

People can and DO change. They renew their minds and stop caving into sin, anger, hatred, guilt, hostility, addictions, idolatry, adultery, sexual immorality, perversions, etc..

Those who say this can't happen, are easily deceived......just like Adam and Eve were.

A person with unbelief and doubts are easily deceived by Lucifer/Satan/Devil/Evil.

Sandy


dlo_3us2001, Realabortiondebate 9 Comments [6/21/2017 4:21:56 AM]
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Quote# 125124

We are surrounded by the liberal, Godless and money-hungry newsmedia, whether it be newspapers, the television news networks, TV talk shows or the internet. The newsmedia prey upon broken families, the emotionally suffering and wrongdoers, for profit. Consequentially, the media have created a constant spirit of fear, distrust and paranoia in American society, neighbour against neighbour. In sharp contrast, the Word of God teaches us to love one another, to be kind, forgiving and gentle (Ephesians 4:30-31).

There are many wicked people who enjoy keeping other people's mistakes, faults and sins in the spotlight, especially if they are were once a celebrity, or a member of a well-known family, organization or church. The Bible teaches that love puts the past to rest, not throwing it in someone's face. Proverbs 10:12, “Hatred stirreth up strifes: but love covereth all sins.” Of course, slanderers and critics will always try to justify their hypocrisy, claiming that the truth needs to be known, or any one of a hundred other lame excuses. As we read in Romans 2:1 from our text verse, God holds such critics “INEXCUSABLE,” because they are sinners too, just like the person(s) they are continually trying to destroy in their self-righteousness and hatred. Proverbs 10:12 says that HATRED STIRRETH UP STRIFES!!!

Proverbs 11:9, “An hypocrite with his mouth destroyeth his neighbour: but through knowledge shall the just be delivered.” The Lord promises to judge each of us according to the SAME MEASURE that we judge others. Would you want God to focus on your sins for an extended time period, continually making you relive your mistakes, throwing your sins in your face for the rest of your life? How do you think God will judge such hypocrites in eternity, who took enjoyment from destroying and kicking others in the teeth continually, every time they tried to get back on the ladder after falling?

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Precious 14 Comments [3/4/2017 11:30:37 AM]
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Quote# 128010

"Are you saying all science that is "devoid of God" is invalid?"

ummmmmmm ....... YUP ................ an a-theist might STUMBLE into the truth ...... might ...... but any independent conclusions are invalid ..........

Amos Moses, Christian News Network 24 Comments [6/11/2017 7:06:42 AM]
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Quote# 128324

Let's say someone horribly bullies you. One day you see the bully about to die and they are begging for your help (they are still yelling at you and calling you names as they do this) , would you help them or would you leave the bully to die?



Ayin: I’d try to save them, because frankly death over bullying is not a line I’d be willing to cross.
Ashlyn: Except I’d take front and back off. While leaving someone to die is a moral failure, you’re trying to go into a lethal situation with someone who is still an active threat and who has displayed worse ethics. We have no guarantee we’d come out alive. Defend the system at all costs.





in another post

if you believe you are allowed to be offensive and rude to cis people you are a fucking hypocrite. you want equality? then treat people how you want to be treated.




If you believe trans people’s safety and equality should depend on how polite they are to you, you’re a fucking terrible human being.

wetwareproblem, tumblr 14 Comments [6/19/2017 9:45:51 PM]
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Quote# 128309

The theory of evolution is false. It is simply not true. Actually, it is just a fairy tale for adults based on ancient pagan religious philosophy that hundreds of millions of people around the world choose to believe with blind faith. When asked to produce evidence for the theory of evolution, most adults in the western world come up totally blank. When pressed, most people will mumble something about how “most scientists believe it” and how that is good enough for them. This kind of anti-intellectualism even runs rampant on our college campuses. If you doubt this, just go to a college campus some time and start asking students why they believe in evolution. Very few of them will actually be able to give you any real reasons why they believe it.

Most of them just have blind faith in the priest class in our society (“the scientists”). But is what our priest class telling us actually true? When Charles Darwin popularized the theory of evolution, he didn’t actually have any evidence that it was true. And since then the missing evidence has still not materialized. Most Americans would be absolutely shocked to learn that most of what is taught as “truth” about evolution is actually the product of the overactive imaginations of members of the scientific community. They so badly want to believe that it is true that they will go to extraordinary lengths to defend their fairy tale. They keep insisting that the theory of evolution has been “proven” and that it is beyond debate. Meanwhile, most average people are intimidated into accepting the “truth” about evolution because they don’t want to appear to be “stupid” to everyone else.

(...)

In order to believe the theory of evolution, you must have enough blind faith to believe that life just popped into existence from nonlife, and that such life just happened to have the ability to take in the nourishment it needed, to expel waste, and to reproduce itself, all the while having everything it needed to survive in the environment in which it suddenly found itself. Do you have that much blind faith?

For years, I have been looking for someone that can explain to me the very best evidence for the theory of evolution in a systematic way. My challenge has been for someone to lay out for me a basic outline of the facts that “prove” that evolution is true.

Perhaps you believe that you are up to the challenge.

I’ll even get you started…

If you think that you can prove that evolution is true, please leave a comment below with your best shot.

Or if you would like to discuss additional evidence for why you believe that the theory of evolution is false, please feel free to share it by posting a comment below.

Michael Snyder, The Truth Wins 13 Comments [6/21/2017 3:51:01 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 128289

[From "Letter on my discovery of the Auschwitz crematoria building plans" to Lady Michèle Renouf, notorious Holocaust denier who asked for a "real" proof for the Shoah]

to Lady Michèle Renouf

Dear Michèle,

Yes, I am the one who discovered the plans of the Auschwitz crematoria. It was in 1976 on my second visit to the camp; my first visit was in 1975.

I haven’t the time to explain to you how I managed to find, on March 19, 1976, all those plans and many other items at the Auschwitz archives centre, where I met Tadeusz Iwaszko, chief archivist at the Auschwitz State Museum.

For years I tried to publish the plans in question. Impossible. One day a friend told me he knew a Spanish journalist who perhaps would agree to publish an interview with me, along with some photos. The newspaper was the Spanish magazine Interviu. The journalist was Vicente Ortuno and the photographer was Jean Marie Pulm. They came to Vichy. They promised me and my friend not to publish any photo of my face, and that an agreement would be signed before any publication. In fact they lied. They quickly published what you can see in Interviu (22-28 February 1979, p. 64-66; please see the reproductions below). In the article I am described as a sadistic Nazi. I have the French translation of that article but it is of no interest. I filed a lawsuit in Paris. I won my case but the amount of damages was ridiculous (the presiding judge was a Jewess by the name of Simone Rozès).

So it was that the Holo Believers had been sitting on those plans for over 30 years after the war. Question: "How is it that the Jews and the Communists decided to hide the plans showing the alleged crime weapon?" The answer is that those plans showed clearly that the alleged homicidal gas chambers were rooms designed and used as mortuaries (or places to keep bodies before their incineration), exactly as, for example, in the Sachsenhausen camp near Berlin (there, the big Leichenkeller was made up of three different rooms: one for bodies in coffins, one for bodies not in coffins and another, equipped with a special isolation system, for contaminated bodies). This kind of place was called a Leichenhalle ("corpse hall") or Leichenkeller ("corpse cellar").

Isn't it odd that the man who had discovered and tried to publish such things was a revisionist, i.e. a non-believer?

In the large photo in Interviu I am seen showing Leichenkeller 1 of crematorium II in Auschwitz-Birkenau; that crematorium was situated near the football field (Sportplatz) where the inmates played soccer matches; sometimes the ball fell into the courtyard of the crematorium and had to be retrieved from there.

In the same photo, behind me can be seen two other plans.

On March 19, 1976 I ordered and paid for 116 photos (I still have the bill) but afterwards I had some serious trouble getting them sent from Poland to Vichy. I had to ask the French Consulate in Cracow to intervene. Of course, to none of those people in Communist Poland had I disclosed that I was a revisionist.

In the smaller photo I am showing Serge Klarsfeld’s book, Mémorial de la déportation des juifs de France (1978), and explaining some of the tricks played by that fraudster in his book.

As soon as they learnt of the Interviu article, the Holo Believers began publishing the same drawings but not without explaining to readers that they had to understand that the German terms were code words which, consequently, needed decoding. Jean-Claude Pressac harboured a predilection for that sort of job, particularly in his enormous book entitled Auschwitz: Technique and Operation of the gas chambers, published in 1989 by the Beate Klarsfeld foundation in New York. But, as you probably know, Pressac ended up recanting his views and, on June 15, 1995 (a month after I had made him testify in a case brought against me [for my Réponse à Jean-Claude Pressac (1994)], signed a paper in which he finally said that the official version of Nazi concentration camp history was "rotten" (pourri) and good only for the "rubbish bins of history" (poubelles de l’histoire). That recantation of his was kept hidden for five years and made public only in March 2000 by a conventional historian, Valérie Igounet, at the very end of her book, Histoire du négationnisme en France, Seuil (Paris), p. 651-652.

Best wishes,

Robert Faurisson
Vichy, July 13, 2009

Robert Faurisson, Robert Faurisson 6 Comments [6/21/2017 3:42:34 AM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 128342

"I can't notice the social engineering and brainwashing I'm afflicted with until I see a movie from a few decades ago" - the comic

[Comic from Tumblr about how sketchy 90's movies may come off as now]

nontolerantman, Twitter 10 Comments [6/20/2017 9:54:50 AM]
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Quote# 128336

Depressed Teens: They Need More Than Happiness

By Eric Metaxas and Stan Guthrie, BreakPoint.org, June 14, 2017

The numbers are shocking. According to the journal Translational Psychiatry, more than 36 percent of teen girls in America are depressed or have had a recent “major depressive episode.” For boys, it’s a slightly less alarming–but only slightly less–13.6 percent.

It wasn’t always this bad. Writing at the National Review Online, Mona Charen reports that rates for depression and anxiety “were much lower during the Great Depression, World War II, and the turbulent 1970s than they are today.”

Mental-health issues are spreading like wildfire on college campuses, too. Ohio State, for example, reports a 43-percent jump in students seeking mental-health counseling in the last five years.

As Charen writes, “Something is robbing young people of happiness and well-being.”

Indeed–but what, exactly? Charen looks at several factors, eventually landing on changing family dynamics, such as divorce and single parenting. And this is right, as far as it goes. Not having a mom and dad at home can be very hard on young people. But it goes deeper. I think religious myopia has something to do with it, too.

Back in 2005, Christian Smith and Melinda Lundquist Denton described a corruption of the historic Christian faith growing among young people in America, including those in our churches, which they call Moralistic Therapeutic Deism. It is, they say, “centrally about feeling good, happy, secure, at peace. It is about attaining subjective well-being, being able to resolve problems, and getting along amicably with other people.”

But despite Moralistic Therapeutic Deism’s focus on feeling good, it’s clear that many young people don’t. The question is why?

Perhaps what they need is not more encouragement to be nice, but more opportunities to encounter Love Himeslf–who gives them not a list of do’s and don’t’s, but an invitation to a banquet. “Come to me,” Jesus says, “all of you who are weary and carry heavy burdens, and I will give you rest. (Matt 11:28).

Somewhere deep inside, unhappy young people know that they were meant for more, much more, than this world can possibly offer. As Augustine said, “Thou hast made us for thyself, O Lord, and our heart is restless until it finds its rest in thee.”

It’s not about mere happiness. As C.S. Lewis said, “I didn’t go to religion to make me happy. I always knew a bottle of Port would do that.” And yet Lewis claimed that there is something beyond mere happiness. He called it Joy, saying that the Lord uses it to draw us to Himself. “It would seem that Our Lord finds our desires not too strong,” Lewis wrote, “but too weak. We are half-hearted creatures, fooling about with drink and sex and ambition when infinite joy is offered us…. We are far too easily pleased.”

So how do we connect young people with Jesus? Well, we need to pursue and know Him with this same holy dissatisfaction ourselves. Do we? You cannot share what you don’t have.

Eric Metaxas and Stan Guthrie, Tumblr 5 Comments [6/21/2017 4:12:28 AM]
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Submitted By: Thanos6

Quote# 128350

We do indeed need & value your prayers. It's heartbreaking to watch the news here & see comments from members of the public who support Islam. No one with any other opinion ever gets interviewed. It feels very lonely at the moment to have biblical views on Islam- something that not even many Christians seem to have.

Those of us who encounter the unsaved on a daily basis & are blessed to be able to witness the Gospel are being criticised & ridiculed for Who our faith is in. Muslims are getting no end of support & if we dare to speak out against it we are in the wrong. The only people who are against Islam are (as I read in another thread) white supremasists who are sadly anti semetic too.

My country has gone mad - calling good evil & evil good, just as scripture says. I no longer feel anything good about this land & every day with every news story it is more & more dismaying. DH & I knew that here we would read sense. Praise God we have His Word to find the truth in.

so-blessed, Rapture Ready 4 Comments [6/21/2017 4:17:08 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 128319

[Bob Blaylock opposes public accommodation non-discrimination laws.]

Bob Blaylock:
The First Amendment is the law, and as part of the Constitution, is the highest law in this nation. Those who abused the power of government to punish decent people for refusing to participate in openly immoral activities violated the law. Why is it that corrupt public servants get to violate the highest law with impunity, in order to impose unjust and blatantly unconstitutional laws under which to violate the rights of their rightful masters?

Croquet_Player:
Don't want to bake wedding cakes for some people? Fine! Don't sell wedding cakes in states that have anti-discrimination laws. No one's being forced to sell wedding cakes, or wedding flowers against their wishes. And nobody's First Amendment rights are being violated by non-discrimination laws. Don't like the laws? Take it up with the voters.

Bob Blaylock:
The First Amendment cannot be legitimately superseded by a mere vote. It can only be superseded by ratifying a new amendment to the Constitution that overturns it.

The First Amendment explicitly protects freedom of religion and expression (including nonexpression), and strongly implies freedoms of thought, conscience, and association.

Forcing a baker, or any other businessman, to give support to a sick, immoral homosexual mockery of a wedding, in violation of his own religious and moral values, as a condition of being allowed to make a living, blatantly violates the First Amendment.

Croquet_Player:
I seem to have missed the part of the Constitution where citizens are guaranteed the right to run a business any way they like, regardless of the laws regulating businesses.

Bob Blaylock:
And I seem to have missed the part where sick, immoral perverts have a right to impose their evil on sane, decent people.

In any event, it certainly strands to reason that engaging in commerce, in order to make an honest living, is a necessary part of life, and although not explicitly mentioned in the Constitution, at least falls among those rights implied in the Ninth Amendment, as an area in which government needs to have a strong case for a need to intervene before it can be allowed to do so.

There isn't really any similar case that can be made for any “right” on the part of immoral perverts to force their evil on sane, decent people, where the sane, decent people can't at least as equally claim a right not to have this filth forced on us against our wills.

Croquet_Player:
I understand that you feel some of your fellow Americans are "sick, immoral perverts", and you are entitled to that opinion. I feel the same way. I believe it is sick, immoral, and perverted, that in the United States, right now, some people can avoid prosecution by claiming "religious privilege" because they believe that modern medicine (or any medicine) is an affront to God, and they will simply "pray" over fatally ill people, instead of taking them to a doctor or calling 911, as a remedy, and if they die, it's simply "the will of God". And I'm working on laws to prevent this. Not because I think people can't believe what they like, but because when it comes to the point of a tumor the size of a grapefruit on a three year old's eye socket, I think it's better to remove the child from the parent's care, and remove the tumor and hopefully save the eye, or if that ship has sailed, remove the tumor so it doesn't spread and kill them in the next few years.

I don't understand where you are being force to "agree" with things you feel are wrong. No one is making you marry a gay person, or preside over a gay wedding. And you have every right to say what you like.

Do you "agree" with gay weddings? No, you clearly don't. Who is stopping you from holding that opinion? Or talking about it,as you are here? I really want to know. Because I will the first one on your side against anyone who says you can't hold that opinion, for religious reasons or otherwise. I'm an American, and you're my fellow American. (I think, I could be wrong, but whatever. I think everyone has a right to their religious opinions.)

Bob Blaylock:
Everyone needs to make a living. This means either running one's own business, or working for someone else who runs a business.

Nothing in the Constitution supports any power of government to compel anyone to waive any of his Constitutional rights as a condition of being allowed to engage in commerce.

Bob Blaylock, Christian News Network 3 Comments [6/21/2017 3:59:38 AM]
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Quote# 128343

Religion and religious freedom gone wild

The First Amendment guarantees Americans the freedom of religion in the “establishment” clause:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


Words matter, so the first question that must be answered is a matter of definition.

What is religion?

The dictionary defines religion as:

1. The belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.
2. A particular system of faith and worship.
3. A pursuit or interest to which someone ascribes superhuman importance.

Dictionaries have been used for centuries to help codify the meaning of words in an attempt to make language useful. Without accepted specific meanings for words it is impossible to communicate through language effectively. Language is the common denominator of speech. Even biblical stories express the importance of the meaning of words as they are understood or misunderstood in any language. The most famous example is the biblical story of The Tower of Babel that begins with everyone on Earth speaking the same language and able to understand each other. Whether the scattering of people around the world was a punishment for hubris or not, the consequence was that people began speaking different languages and could no longer understand each other.

But what happens when people speaking the same language no longer understand each other because they interpret the meaning of the same words differently? That is the situation we are facing in contemporary American society today.

The second question that must be answered is a matter of interpretation.

What does religion mean to you?

Thomas Jefferson wrote eloquently on the subject in an 1802 letter to the Danbury Baptists who worried about their minority status in Connecticut. Jefferson was reassuring the Baptists that being a minority religion would not be a problem in a Protestant majority state as far as the federal government was concerned.

Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should “make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof”, thus building a wall of separation between Church & State. Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties. (Wikipedia)


Jefferson’s letter clearly indicates that for Jefferson, religion was a matter of Man and God. Jefferson’s interpretation was the widely accepted and understood view of religion in the early 18th century. By the 20th century the U.S. Supreme Court “incorporated” the Establishment Clause and expanded its application from the federal government to the state governments as well.

Practical application

The practical application of the freedom of religion also requires a uniform understanding of the meaning and interpretation of the word religion. The Exercise Clause clarifies the supremacy of Constitutional laws and freedoms over religious laws and freedoms. This is particularly important in contemporary America because we are facing “religious” practices of Islam that threaten our Constitutional freedoms.

The Free Exercise Clause distinguishes between religions beliefs and religious practices. It is the equivalence of distinguishing between thinking and doing. In America an individual is free to think murderous thoughts but he is not free to murder. Islam is a religion governed by religious Sharia Law that endorses honor killings, female genital mutilation, murder of apostates, murder of homosexuals, wife beatings, child marriage and pedophilia. American jurisprudence does not have the will or authority to change people’s beliefs. This applies equally to citizens of the United States, guests in this country, illegal aliens, or citizens of other countries. But we most certainly have the right and legal obligation to disallow any and all practices in conflict with the U.S. Constitution and our cultural norms. Free Exercise Clause (Wikipedia)

“Freedom of religion means freedom to hold an opinion or belief, but not to take action in violation of social duties or subversive to good order.”[28] In Reynolds v. United States (1878), the Supreme Court found that while laws cannot interfere with religious belief and opinions, laws can be made to regulate some religious practices (e.g., human sacrifices, and the Hindu practice of suttee). The Court stated that to rule otherwise, “would be to make the professed doctrines of religious belief superior to the law of the land, and in effect permit every citizen to become a law unto himself. Government would exist only in name under such circumstances.”[29]

Words mean things

In Cantwell v. Connecticut (1940), the Court held that the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment applied the Free Exercise Clause to the states. While the right to have religious beliefs is absolute, the freedom to act on such beliefs is not absolute. https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/310/296/case.html

In Jefferson’s time as in Truman’s time the meaning of the word religion included items 1 and 2:

1. The belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.
2. A particular system of faith and worship.

Seventy years later in 2017 we must reconsider the meaning of the word religion and ask the question:

What is Islam?

Islam is not a religion like Buddhism, Christianity, Hinduism, or Judaism. Instead, Islam is a unified supremacist socio-political system with a military wing and a religious wing. Islam features religious sharia law. The goal of Islam since the 7th century is to make the world Islamic and impose sharia law worldwide.

Islam is tyrannical in its demand for conformity to its barbaric sharia laws. It is also intolerant. Islam is a political force seeking world dominion. So we cannot allow it religious protections like the Baptists in Connecticut during Jefferson’s times.

Islam is far more like the Nazis during Hitler’s time. Consider this question. What if Hitler declared Nazism to be a religion. It certainly qualifies as a religion according to Item 3. A pursuit or interest to which someone ascribes superhuman importance.

Suppose Adolph Hitler declared his Nazism a religion. Then would the left-wing liberal apologists for Islam defend Nazism? Would they defend its determination to rule the world and rid the Earth of every Jew? Would the lefty-wing liberals declare murder of Jews protected by religious freedom? How is this different from allowing Muslims to perpetrate honor killings, female genital mutilation, murder of apostates, murder of homosexuals, wife beatings, child marriage, and pedophilia?

There is no difference.

Apologists for Islamic barbarity claim that Islamists have perverted their religion. If so, it is also true that they have perverted our concept of religious freedom. Islam is not a religion like any other. Moreover its savage practices do not deserve protection under our religious freedom laws and the free exercise clause.

Linda Goudsmit, Conservative News and Views 23 Comments [6/20/2017 9:54:54 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 126056

At first glance, the average person would think think Discordianism is a joke, but it's no joke. It's actually a witchcraft tradition. It's interesting that www.discordianism.com is saturated with links promoting Wiccan witchcraft, spells, magick, and the occult. The following "Wiccan Tradition" page at www.wicca.com states...

"The Discordian or Erisian movement is described as a 'Non- Prophet Irreligious Disorganization and has claimed 'The Erisian revelation is not a complicated put-on disguised as a new religion, but a new religion disguised as a complicated put-on. "It all started with the *'Principia Discordia, or How I Found the Goddess and What I Did to Her When I Found Her'*, a collection of articles and ideas compiled by Greg Hill (Malaclypse the Younger). The central theme is 'Chaos is every bit as important as Order' as illustrated in the story of The curse of Greyface:

*Humor is central to Discordianism, but Discordianism should not be dismissed as a joke. Profound experiences frequently accompany the practice or Erisinaism. It is a perceptual game, one which demonstrates that the absurd is just as valid as the mundane and chaos is just as valid as order. It frees the practitioner from the order games (that most have forgotten are games) to play games with order or games with chaos, or both. The effects of Discordianism upon an individual can be far reaching and amazingly liberating. [Although a great many immature individuals have played at Discordianism and thereby side stepped any chance of spiritual growth."

"Discordians believe that Chaos is as important as Order, and have a very dark sense of sarcasm/humor to prove it. Their main text is the "Principia Discordia." Though they may not seem like it, Discordians take their beliefs as seriously as any Gardnerian High Priest/ess. There are some groups that blend Discordianism with Wicca, making those particular groups a Wiccan tradition as well."

It is clear that Discordianism is a form of witchcraft. According to collegewicca.com (witchcraft)...

"The word "tradition" comes up when discussing Wicca. Basically, a tradition is the same as a Christian denomination."

What a deceit! There is NOTHING in Wicca even remotely related to a "Christian" tradition. Wicca is a false religion according to the Word of God, the Bible. 1st John 2:22 declares Wiccans as liars and Anti-Christs because they deny that Jesus is the Christ (the Saviour of the world)...

"Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son."

Discordianism is a form of Paganism which mocks decency and order. The Word of God condemns such nonsense, "Let all things be done decently and in order" (1st Corinthians 14:40). Discordianism is a chaos promoting philosophy (religion), with many bizarre teachings and claims. An introductory course is offered at witchschool.com on Discordianism. Clearly, Discordianism is witchcraft. I didn't wrote this article to refute all the details of Discordianism; but, rather, to EXPOSE Discordianism for what it truly is, WITCHCRAFT!!! Discordianism is an inherent part of modern witchcraft.

David J. Stewart, jesus-is-savior 10 Comments [4/6/2017 12:39:32 AM]
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Submitted By: Mayasmom

Quote# 128351

(Kallah): It was only a matter of time before people began to fight back. So very sad indeed.....

But there is certainly so much anger and resentment. As in the US people are going to be inclined to take matters in their own hands if they cannot trust their leaders.

(billiefan2000): I know and with many on both sides riled up a civil war in the UK is likely inevitable.

(Hidden): Peace is fast eluding this world. Why is the media so quick to label this as an "attack on muslims" but when it's the other way around, they're pretty much mum about it... sigh...

Kallah, billiefan2000 , Rapture Forums 3 Comments [6/21/2017 4:17:15 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 128358


(Lady Checkmate writes the following headline):
European court rules in favor of Russian gay radicals, allowing them to prey upon and groom innocent children

http://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/european-court-angers-russia-gay-propaganda-ruling-n774521

Satan is after the children and reprobates are leading the charge. Stand against them Russia. Protect your children. Debased minds should not lead anyone.
(Bible quote removed)

Lady Checkmate, Disqus - Faith & Religion 3 Comments [6/21/2017 4:18:26 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta
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