Quote# 130332

Texas megachurch pastor Robert Jeffress, one of President Trump’s evangelical advisers who preached the morning of his inauguration, has released a statement saying the president has the moral authority to take out North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.

“When it comes to how we should deal with evil doers, the Bible, in the book of Romans, is very clear: God has endowed rulers full power to use whatever means necessary — including war — to stop evil,” Jeffress said. “In the case of North Korea, God has given Trump authority to take out Kim Jong Un.”

Robert Jeffress, The Washington Post 24 Comments [8/9/2017 11:43:45 AM]
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Quote# 130334

(From a thread titled "Survey finds most American Muslims believe 'society should accept homosexuality'")

American Muslims


This message is for you

Most of you are either munafiqs, frauds, murtadds, kazzabs, zanis, thieves, and or slaves to the kuffar

You are the biggest group of cowards I've ever met

Talwaar, Ummah.com 16 Comments [8/9/2017 11:43:54 AM]
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Submitted By: Into the Unknown

Quote# 130340

I wrote my first book "The War That Never Began"! It's based on Revelation 20:7-8 (that one paragraph that covers the span of the future 1,000 year reign). I found it really fun creating a future world where Jesus was King on Earth! It follows a family that is split apart as they each choose their own side, for or against, Jesus' worldwide Monarchy. While the end may be known from beginning, I hope you enjoy this fictional tale on what it might be like to be alive in those days. I think you'll love how the enemy has the tables turned on him at the end! We likely very soon won't even have to wonder about it!

Falaskan, Rapture Ready 22 Comments [8/9/2017 11:44:13 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 130325

No campaign to announce "Die Trans Scum" is necessary.

It's been in de facto effect for as long as cis people have murdered, brutalized, raped, beaten, harassed, denied access to health care or social services, or categorically discriminated against trans people because of their being trans.

"Die Trans Scum" is the default we as trans people face each day when we walk outside. No matter how transparent to the cis world we might be; no matter how many years it's been since our transition, that very risk of being forcibly disclosed as trans (or even accidentally so) puts us in the crosshairs of those cis people who do want all people with bodies like ours eliminated, if not violently reprimanded.

The campaign is provocative. It's meant to be. As the "Die Cis Scum" discussion has been going on with Tumblr and Twitter for some time now, the consensus has been such: if you're cis, and you're not remotely offended by the campaign, it's because the campaign isn't about you or cis people like you at all. If it offends you as a cis person, however, then it means you probably should to look at your own cissexism, trans misogyny, and trans enmity toward trans people.

The campaign, after all, is qualifying only the scum of cis people, not all of cis people. As a trans person, if it offends you to hear "die cis scum", you
might have some internalized cissexism to unpack, if not also internalized transphobia.

tl;dr: As put better by someone else, "No cis person has ever been harmed of died from 'die cis scum,' but thousands of trans people have been killed or maimed by 'die trans scum.'"

patienceinbee, r/asktransgender 12 Comments [8/9/2017 11:43:05 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 130327

There is no biblical rule that requires abstinence from "cinema."

There are, however, biblical principles and commandments that apply to movie going as to many areas of life.

There is much pop culture worldly garbage marketed as entertainment that a Christian ought abstain from.

Is the content geared toward profanity? Blasphemy? Mockery of what is good? Glorification of what is evil?

Is spending the money on it good stewardship?

Is spending the time attending, talking and thinking about the movie good stewardship of time?

One aspect of sanctification will be less tolerance of the profane, more care in spending money, more concern about idleness, less concern about amusing oneself, and more concern about what is true, good and pure.

Scott1, Puritan Board 12 Comments [8/9/2017 11:43:13 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 130279

I hate life and everything in it

Not only do I hate women with a burning passion, I also hate life and everything in it. I hate animals, they are stupid fucking creatures that shit and piss and look like deformed retards. I hate humanity in general, and we are a dumb parasite species that deserves extinction. I also hate trees, mountains, rocks, and the sun and the moon. I feel like i live in the truman show, everything in life is so pointless, fake, and evil. Any other incels despise existence and this shitty little rock we call earth?

lonelydude567, /r/IncelReddit 28 Comments [8/8/2017 11:48:04 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 130326

I brought something like this up on another forum in regard to the film "Pulp Fiction." To my thinking this film is an example of the decadence of our society. Aside from the vulgarity and profanity, which is ubiquitous, there is homosexual sodomy and numerous scenes of mayhem. The killers are portrayed as charismatic characters who are attractive to "the world."

A man is accidentally shot in an automobile when it hits a bump and this incident is portrayed as comic relief, this scene invariably brings laughter from the audience. I've read that a society can be judged by its art. If stuff like this is not emblematic of a sick society what is ? There was a time when I enjoyed the film BTW. I wouldn't watch it today. your mileage may vary.

OTOH, I think of Shakespeare and with the exception of the filthy language of our day, there are some parallels in terms of violence. I suppose these stories do portray fallen man in a relatively accurate depiction of what he is capable of. Than there are films that are uplifting, such as, The Sound Of Music, Lilies Of The Field and that sort.

Isn't it true that after we become Christians we only then begin to see the disparaging way that Hollywood portrays Christians? I think of films such as "Zulu", an oldie that most may not remember, but there are many more examples. At my age (63) having spent the majority of my life 'walking according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air', putting off 'the old man' and putting on the new, I now would sooner devote my free time to focusing on things above. What communion has light with darkness. "Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing."

JimmyH, Puritan Board 8 Comments [8/9/2017 11:43:09 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 130232

The name we use is very dear to us. Mom and dad gave it to us. Everybody calls us by our name. But this name that we are so fond of, is also very dear to the state. The name has been registered with the state through a birth certificate. It is recorded in their vital statistics division. When the state calls us by name, we hear their voice. We respond to our state name.

Our state name is required to enter their schools, for obtaining their licenses, for voting in their elections and for participating in social security. Our state name is used to obtain a high school diploma, a Bachelor of Arts or Bachelor of Science or Master’s degree, and maybe even a Doctorate degree. By continuing to use our state-registered name, we are "cashing in" on the privileges and benefits that the state has bestowed upon the name. The state has been with us from the beginning, opening doors for us, taking care of us. They’ve made a big investment in our education and training. They have such a close relationship with us that they are jealous of any outsiders who might want to help and protect us.

Paul Revere, Embassy of Heaven 20 Comments [8/7/2017 11:27:03 PM]
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Submitted By: The Reptilian Jew

Quote# 130320

(Responding to another member who wrote: "The impact of pedophilia and abortion are often the same. Both can have devastating psychological effects on women.")

I think ripping a innocent child to pieces is the greater sin.

At least a child that has been sexually abused will live to see another day. At least that child can get justice from the LAW. At least that child can grow up to have a life, have a husband or wife, and have a family or a career. The unborn child has NO chance of any of that.

The LAW is allowing an unborn child to ripped to pieces through abortion. There is no justice in that.

Abortion is the greater crime. A Holocaust.

Sandy




dlo_3us2001, Realabortiondebate 4 Comments [8/9/2017 11:42:49 AM]
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Quote# 130361

sparky SimonSays • 6 months ago

It would only kill liberals, as terrorists would, why would they care about there people now?

Sparky, Newsmax 8 Comments [8/10/2017 12:03:44 AM]
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Submitted By: DiarrheaMan

Quote# 130226



?It’s time for John McCain to retire. The 80 year-old Arizona senator was diagnosed with a brain tumor. Any normal man would spend his remaining time with his family. Not McCain. He remains determined to do maximum damage to President Trump and the USA.


McCain is a deep state stooge. He’s an angry poodle on the leash of George Soros. He’s a globalist who is pro-massive immigration, pro-war and pro-trannies in the military. He’s not a war hero no matter how many times that lie is repeated by the fakestream media. Getting shot down and suffering wounds does not make him a hero. “Song Bird” McCain told the North Vietnamese secret info which caused more Americans to die in Vietnam. He wet started his jet on the USS Forrestal as a prank. It started a massive fire that led to the death of 134 sailors. Tomorrow marks the 50th anniversary of that tragedy. McCain had to be helicoptered off the ship because many sailors were calling for his scalp. As a senator, the war-mongering traitor John McCain has enriched himself by wetstarting on America.


McCain is malignant tumor. He has given America a massive headache for way too long.

Ben Garrison, GrrrGraphics 15 Comments [8/7/2017 11:26:32 PM]
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Submitted By: Daspletosaurus

Quote# 130330

Well first off a thing is right or wrong simply because God's says it. Do we christians locate the source of that rightness or wrongness in God's unchanging charector? Yes but what we know of that charector is revealational in nature and always anthropomorphic. We cannot use reason to probe the depths of God. We can faithfuly start with his revealation to us and move from there. Also we must say yes God can declare murder to be right, but he has covenantly bounded himself in the covenat of works (or creation). Remember that God can do whatever he wants because he wants to. Does he bound himself in covenants to mankind? Yes, so he will no more "change" his mind on murder being wrong than he will flood the earth again.

I do not object to appealing to his immutible charector, only that appeals alone tend to abritraraly bound God for some logical or metaphysical reason. God is no more bound by logic than he is bound by creation. Now murder is one crime that he gives his reasons for in the Nohaic covenant but he is under no obligation to give any reason whatsoever for his descissions regarding anything. That I think is the best response to the Euthryphro argument, and Ryft gave an excellant response to it as well.

jwright82, Puritan Board 6 Comments [8/9/2017 11:43:24 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 130233

Lady Checkmate's headline: "Former Lesbian Jackie Hill-Perry Shares How the Holy Spirit Took Ahold of Her Heart"

Former lesbian Jackie Hill-Perry recently shared her incredible story of finding God and breaking free of her life of homosexuality.

In a video shared by Charisma News, Hill-Perry shares that she grew up going to church with her aunt and she knew what Christians were supposed to do and not do, but faith didn’t become real to her till later in life. She also grew up in a broken family and often felt abandoned by her father who wasn’t around a lot and her mother who worked hard to provide for the family.

“I think middle school and high school was me chasing after love from people. I wanted people to tell me that I’m something, that I’m significant, that I’m somebody. And women I think became one of the main sources of that for me,” she shared.

“The things I knew about Scripture, it seemed like they just would not get out of my head. It was just like God is everywhere.”

She at first resisted the Holy Spirit’s conviction, but through God’s working and the guidance of a Christian cousin, she ultimately surrendered her life to Christ.

https://youtu.be/aKZNstmc9Qg

https://youtu.be/s-9X6X5aFKo

Don't forget to RECOMMEND. Lets get the Truth out so that Light may shine bright in this dark place and Jesus Christ may be glorified.Even if the discussion is closed, please still RECOMMEND.

http://www.christianheadlines.com/blog/former-lesbian-jackie-hill-perry-shares-how-the-holy-spirit-took-ahold-of-her-heart.html

Lady Checkmate, Disqus - Faith & Religion 16 Comments [8/7/2017 11:27:06 PM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 130269

It's pretty self-evident. If you aren't anti-fascist then you're pro-fascist. It's as simple as that. If you aren't with us, then you're helping them and supporting fascism. Liberals eventually get the bullet, too. :)

"Violence isn't the solution!" "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind!" If you had your way, all of Europe would have become the Third Reich, so you're indirectly supporting fascism. Read: useful idiot. You might find /r/Liberal/ more to your tastes.

Denniva, r/Anarchism 25 Comments [8/8/2017 11:42:29 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 130299

[On if trans women should disclose their transness to their dates]

A vegan orders a vegan meal and ends up with a steak. A man consents to a sexual encounter with a woman and ends up with a bloke. Don't both have equal right to be pissed about it?

Susan Cruise, Facebook 16 Comments [8/8/2017 11:29:26 PM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 130307

A good way to measure the worth of an economy is to ask, "Would my life be better or worse without industry [X]?"
If assembly line construction of heavy manufactured goods never existed? Worse.
If smartphones, Google, Faceborg, and Twatter never existed? On balance, better.

Heartiste, Gab 20 Comments [8/8/2017 11:30:01 PM]
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Quote# 130328

Good question. I would say that God always has the right to take or give life. His will in the given situation is reflective of His never changing, sovereign right over His creation. It's not possible for God to be guilty of murder because He always has the rights over His creation's lives.

To answer what you asked about exegesis I would say that any verses proclaiming His sovereignty are stating this. God always does what He (the perfectly wise, just and holy God) wants. Calvin said that the universe is the "theater of the glory of God" and so God's actions in the universe are the displaying of his nature.

*My point was that God's infinite and immutable nature make accusations of arbitration nonsensical. If God's own nature defines right, wrong, and justice, and is unchanging then assigning a term like "arbitrary" to Him seems blasphemous. Their (Non-christian's) use of the word arbitrary seems to indicate that they see God as a peer who happens to be a bigger and stronger bully not the perfectly wise and holy God.

ManleyBeasley, Puritan Board 6 Comments [8/9/2017 11:43:17 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 130329

God's person defines truth and what is right. Something is right simply because God says it is. He defines truth. To go beyond that is to make him less than God. It is man's duty and pleasure to discover what God has already defined.

Wanderer, Puritan Board 8 Comments [8/9/2017 11:43:21 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 130288

Message to EuroAmerican Kuffar

Why dont you wear clothes???


What is this obsession with nakedness??

I'm tired of seeing a sick porn show whenever i walk outside

Animals dont wear clothes either ... this fahisha found in these countries is reflective of devolution and regression rather than progression

And when clothes are miraculously worn they are revealing ... the hadith of Aqa come true

And why are you pebble brained Muslims imitating these debased kuffar?

By doing so you submit that the kuffar way of life is betrer than yours ... you admit defeat and surrender

Talwaar, Ummah.com 13 Comments [8/8/2017 11:25:47 PM]
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Submitted By: Into the Unknown

Quote# 130315

I have encountered a demon that has the red centre of his eyes and the color of his skin is close to that of the sand.
How did it come to pass?
During several years I have seen regularly various demons, since especially during my stay in the bed the Hell used to open in me; the demons were touching me and penetrating my anus with their penis, I was waking up paralyzed and so on. The reason for this was secret equipment, the vibrations of which, sent into me, were opening the Hell.
Because I was so unusual and strong that I have managed to live with that for years...

...the "World Secret Service" has decided to break me even more violently. They have filled the metal of my oven with something, what became a fluid rising up from the metallic surface, after the oven became hot (when it was cold, no fluid was seen at all on its surface).

Together with the press on my brain, all the people were sent to pretend and lie before me. Invisible colorless gases were before me on the way and cigarettes with drugs in the shops.

My explanation of the point in human life is above that of all the religions of this world and I have been elected by Holy Beings serving the God, and later Supergod has touched me as well. There is no greater authority than they are and the Organization as well as the localities that they have been maltreating me here on Earth, has committed a big sin.

One example of my works:

As the consequence of my poisoning, I have got many crazy thoughts: confusion about which side of a car is the front or the back one; to jump into a pit that I have seen on the way, to jump out of the window or out of the bridge; to remove my eyes and penis; visions of angry birds that want to peck my eyes out using my fingers like it was their beak; strange anxiety, more alive imaginations up to small hallucinations; and thousands of other crazy things.
After my brain became damaged, now and then I could feel and even see a demon that I have mentioned in the beginning of this thread. He sometimes makes people hurt themselves.
Then I have noticed that some scenes in movies support a little bit the action of self-hurting and to influence of the demon upon its victims.
But how many people in the world were damaged as strongly as I was to be so sensitive to these scenes in movies? The demon was waiting a longer time per one victim, therefore such a self-mutilation as the consequence of the brain damage is a rare thing.

I believe that the members of the Organization would not be able to stand everything they did to me, and if somebody treated them really badly (after he damaged their brain), they would mutilate themselves and break. And after it they would have no more thoughts on the punishment of the self-mutilation and would cancel its use on people.

My question: How many people in the world were affected as strongly as I was?

Please download my writings.

VolkodavKO, Alien Soup 7 Comments [8/9/2017 11:42:32 AM]
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Submitted By: Hu's On First

Quote# 130225

Atheist Strawman: The Bible promotes Slavery.

Ford's Christian Mouthpiece: No it does not.

Atheist Strawman: The Bible is Anti-Woman.

Ford's Christian Mouthpiece: No it is not.

Atheist Strawman: The Bible is full of contradictions.

Ford's Christians Mouthpiece: Nope, it's not. The Bible is the Word of God and Jesus is the savior of everyone who places their trust in him.

Atheist Strawman: Oh, you're just blindly repeating things you've heard other people say.

Ford's Christian Mouthpiece: I Am?

Adam Ford , Adam4d.com 20 Comments [8/7/2017 11:26:25 PM]
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Submitted By: Christopher

Quote# 130229

A same-sex couple from St. John's is upset after discovering the jewelry store that sold them their engagement rings has posted a sign that seems to oppose same-sex marriage — but one of the store's owners says he's allowed to post his religious beliefs.

When Nicole White and Pam Renouf went looking for engagement rings a few months ago, the pair couldn't find anything they liked. The couple was eventually referred to Today's Jewellers in the Mount Pearl area because the store offers custom-made rings.

White and Renouf visited the store and later gave specifications and a price range for potential rings.

"They were great to work with. They seemed to have no issues. They knew the two of us were a same-sex couple," White said.

"I referred some of my friends to them, just because I did get some good customer service and they had good prices."

That was before one friend went in to purchase a ring for his girlfriend — and instead found a distressing sign.

It reads: "The sanctity of marriage is under attack. Let's keep marriage between a man and a woman."

'It was really upsetting'

The friend took a picture of the poster, which made its way back to White.

"I had no idea about the sign up until that point," she said.

"It was really upsetting. Really sad, because we already had money down on [the rings], and they're displaying how much they are against gays, and how they think marriage should be between a man and a woman."

The couple went to the store the following day, and asked about the sign.

"They just said that that's their beliefs, and they think they can put up whatever they want. I just said it was very disrespectful, it's very unprofessional and I wanted a refund," White said.

"I have no issues with them believing in what they believe in. I think everyone's entitled to their own opinion. But I don't think they should put their personal beliefs inside their business."

White and Renouf hope to get a refund when the man who sold them the rings returns to town next month — but it's not guaranteed.

White said the rings were meant to be a symbol of love, but now the bands seem tainted.

"I think every time I look at that ring, I'll probably think of what we just went through," White said.

Esau Jardon, the co-owner of Today's Jewellers, said he posts several signs in his store throughout the year.

"I have been posting different aspects of my religious beliefs the last 11 years, and I've never had one single problem with any of my customers," he said.

"It seems to be a Canadian right to post what you believe."

Jardon said the sign in question was posted for Mother's Day, because it had to do with families. They also have pamphlets and cards that they hand out at the store as well.

Jardon said he's an immigrant, and feels blessed to live in Canada.

"One of the reasons my family chose to come to Canada was the freedom of rights," he said, noting the freedom of religion and freedom of speech.

"Nothing in that shop or in these posters is against the law... There's nothing there that means to discriminate or to hate anybody else."

Jardon said he won't apologize for his beliefs.

"I feel really bad that [White] feels that we would in any way try to hurt or discriminate against her, but we will not retract from what we believe. I cannot say, 'Well because you feel bad, I will stop believing what I believe,'" he said.

"When I walk on Church Street in Toronto, where I am right now, and I see [LGBT rainbow flags], and I see a lot of signs and a lot of things on public property, I don't have a problem with them. I accept it. I chose to come to Canada... and we accept the whole package... I don't discriminate against that, nor do I come and tell them to take them down. For the same reason, I ask to have the same respect in return, especially when it's in my own business."

Jardon said he's getting a big backlash from social media.

"I had to shut down the Facebook page because of so many hate emails and phone calls and just, really nasty stuff," he said.

When asked if he would offer a refund to the couple, Jardon said he won't be bullied into apologizing for his beliefs or to work for free.

He said the finished rings are ready to be picked up; White and Renouf just have to pay the balance.

Nicole White and Pam Renouf, CBC 16 Comments [8/7/2017 11:26:51 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 130259

(SpaffyJimble): I never said kill them, but break up any of their attempts to organize, rally, or spread their thought. Not by state action, but by people who want to protect their communities, their loved ones, and themselves.

(IBYMBYBMYL): They preach an ideology of genocide and total domination. If allowed to gain power they won't give a fuck about your free speech. Fascists will kill you for being born different. That's a fact. Why not pre-emptively stamp them out?

(thetranshivemind): It's not violence because fascists aren't people. Most animals qualify for a greater degree of personhood than fascists. Dehumanize isn't a strong enough word here. Fascists aren't humans or animals, they're a virus. They forfeit their personhood when they decided to live without empathy.

SpaffyJimble, IBYMBYBMYL, and thetranshivemind, r/traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns 7 Comments [8/8/2017 11:41:09 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 130267

It may be a good thing for them to know that at any point in time they could be killed. Previously they would be able to count on a sort of code of escalation where they would know exactly the kind of response from people they would get. They would know exactly what kind of danger they were in and could count on having both the authority and the means to outmatch any level of violence.

In other words these scenarios would play themselves out with the police always understanding what kind of threat they were under based on what was going on. This might change things a bit, as it means that the police could be doing anything at all including just hanging out and still be under the threat of getting gunned down. This thought is probably terrifying to them individually anyway.

This shooting also has the potential to change the perspective for some into seeing themselves and their communities as at war with the police. Not as a kind of metaphor in that they are in serious opposition to each other, but that the police are an enemy, and if there are the means, they should be wiped out. That it doesn't matter what an officer is directly doing at the moment, but what they do as an institution that warrants this kind of response.

Now there is no difference between a cop that is abusing or assaulting someone and a cop that is wandering around bored, or just getting off of work. The perspective takes into account the entire institution rather than waiting for an instance of brutality to condemn or defend one's self from. Before they were frustrated by instances of brutality themselves, now they have directed their frustration at the institution that is responsible. This is probably the better perspective.

ruminating, r/Anarchism 4 Comments [8/8/2017 11:42:21 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 130270

Collectivism is the way forward, individualism has failed, group strategies triumph over individualist strategies.

nontolerantman, Twitter 13 Comments [8/8/2017 11:42:42 AM]
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