Separation of church and state is a myth made up by our government to control the people. Why don't you find where it talks about separation of church and state is in the U.S. Constitution. It's not there. Find out where it came from then you'll understand that it's a false law. Until you know you really shouldn't comment on the topic of separation of church and state.
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Fine.
The government is now a theocracy under the great O-Haruhi-sama.
Didn't think this one through, did you~
It's easier to control people WITH a state church, stupid!
I didn't have to look long...
Thomas Jefferson; ever hear about him, dolt?
My country HAD a state church until 14 years ago. During the Dark Age the state and church definitely worked together to control the people, and later too. Up until just a century ago or so, there was a guy hired by the church to walk around in mass on Sundays and poke the ones who had fallen asleep. No wonder the poor sods fell asleep; they worked hard all week, and the only day they didn't work, they had to be up early to go to church. You'd better have a VERY good reason not to be there, or you might lose your job (and your home, as your employer probably owned it). Sounds fun, doesn't it?
"Separation of church and state is a myth made up by our government to control the people."
Separation of church and state is an amendment to the constitution madr up by the founding fathers to control the nutty fundies.
First Amendment: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;"
Fundie like OrlandoStrongman: "Hmmm; 'establishment of religion'; that MUST mean 'Christian denomination'! So the amendment means that the United States was meant to be a country where all variants of CHRISTIANITY are treated equally! Non-Christian religions were to be banned!"
Aside from Jefferson clarifying exactly what was meant by the first amendment's establishment clause, making it unequivocally about separation of church and state, the clause itself, without explanation, still lends itself to that conclusion. After all, if we are to allow people to worship as they please and give their religion freedom, they need to be given freedom from a specific religion driving all policies. Think of it this way: if you are Protestant do you want the government telling you to pray to Mary? No? Then why should you be able to tell Unitarian Universalists that they can't perform gay weddings.
"Separation of church and state is a myth made up by our government to control the people."
"Why don't you find where it talks about separation of church and state is in the U.S. Constitution. It's not there."
"Why don't you find where it talks about separation of church and state is in the U.S. Constitution."
It's right there in the First Amendment.
Oh, I get it. The words aren't there, even if the concept is. Guess what else isn't in the Constitution. There's nothing that says "the police can't shoot you dead for no reason", but I'm going to guess you don't claim they can.
Then why does every autocracy have an official belief system? Let's read something by a Founding Father, John Adams, to Thomas Jefferson, another Founding Father, in 1825:
The Europeans are all deeply tainted with prejudices, both ecclesiastical and temporal, which they can never get rid of. They are all infected with Episcopal and Presbyterian creeds,
Founding Fathers say you're wrong, OrlandoStrongman.
Since Hasan Prishtina mentions John Adams and quotes him, I'd like to share a quote that Ed Brayton posted the other day that is tangentially related. It's related as it's usually the same propagandist bullshit that this is a "christian nation" that was "established by god" that is also represented in the comments over at SodaHead.
"The United States of America have exhibited, perhaps, the first example of governments erected on the simple principles of nature; and if men are now sufficiently enlightened to disabuse themselves of artifice, imposture, hypocrisy, and superstition, they will consider this event as an era in their history. Although the detail of the formation of the American governments is at present little known or regarded either in Europe or in America, it may hereafter become an object of curiosity. It will never be pretended that any persons employed in that service had interviews with the gods, or were in any degree under the inspiration of Heaven , more than those at work upon ships or houses, or laboring in merchandise or agriculture; it will forever be acknowledged that these governments were contrived merely by the use of reason and the senses
Ignorant Pandering at Washington Event
How does one go about making up a myth?
Hey, Louie, whadda wanna do tonight?"
Why don't you find where it talks about separation of church and state is in the U.S. Constitution.
The Constitution also never uses the terms "double jeopardy" or "self-incrimination", either. Just because someone paraphrases a basic principle with a sound-bite phrase doesn't mean the principle doesn't exist. We all know the Constitution actually says "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" and that Thomas Jefferson coined the phrase by following it with "thus building a wall of separation between church & state" in the Danbury Baptist letter.
The first amendment might say the exact words "Separation of Church and state" but that is essentially what it means when it says.
Where in the constitution does it talk about the Christian God?
Where in the constitution does it say that the laws with in are based on the ten commandments?
“Why don't you find where it talks about separation of church and state is in the U.S. Constitution.”
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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