America by and large has thrown God and Christianity out of the culture, but it is suddenly using Christian morality to judge lewdness! It is interesting that much of the culture demands relative morality, but suddenly wants to apply Christian morality to a politician.
Now that many secular media are using Christian morality to judge politics, will they now also judge TV programs/movies by the same standard?
Secular media by and large scoffs at Christianity and Christian morality, but now appeals to its moral standards to judge in politics - completely inconsistent!
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"America by and large has thrown God and Christianity out of the culture"
By that, you mean "America isn't a Christian counterpart to Saudi Arabia!" don't you, Ken?
Trump's comments are disgusting by any moral standard. you don't need "Christian morality" to understand that.
however, many of those "Christians" prove their hypocrisy when they let it pass, because of partisan politic.
The condemnation of Trumps behavior has nothing to do with supposed Christian morality, moreover the support of the shitgibbon is nearly all from your fucking stupid fundamentalist ilk.
Every fault in Donald Trump IS POINTED OUT by SECULAR morality. Your Bible has no problem with his sexist racist elitist bullshit.
America, by and large, is the most overtly Christian country among Western countries. If you think American culture lacks Christianity, never come to Europe, OK?
Morality is older than Christianity, silly-nilly.
What is Christian morality? Killing your children for talking back at you? Forcing rape victims to marry their rapists? Executing people for working on the Sabbath? Cursing trees for not bearing fruits off-season?
Let me guess, you're miffed that non-religious people are saying that supposed Christian politicians ought to practice what they preach? And you say this is non-religious people using Christian morality? Dearie, it's not, it's more like saying "If you say Christians are so much more moral than others, then for crikey's sake, act more moral than the rest of us.".
Uh, no. The outrage is over consent and bodily autonomy. It's that simple.
Call me when the "secular media" starts basing their outrage on "The Babble/Jesus said ..." and we'll talk.
America by and large has thrown God and Christianity out of the culture, but it is suddenly using Christian morality to judge lewdness!
No, we're using human morality to judge lewdness. Frankly, by using the "does it harm another?" question you can see that yes, grabbing a woman's genitals without her consent is wrong.
But I notice that Kenny here doesn't condemn what Trump said, he just kind of takes a "How dare you judge him?" and "Other people are doing worse!" tack.
It is interesting that much of the culture demands relative morality, but suddenly wants to apply Christian morality to a politician.
The Golden Rule isn't "Christian morality" - it has been around in some form or another in every human culture on the planet. You might just as well say they're applying Hopi or Confucian or Zoroastrian morality.
Ken, since no conservative Christian that I've ever encountered has grasped the concept of "consent"*, I'm gonna say that people are offended by the Trump tapes in spite of Christian morality, not because of it.
* In any debate on homosexuality, I've yet to see any explanation of why "consent" isn't a good standard for sexual behavior and why "Jesus says so" is the only good one.
What are you talking about? Christian morality says it's OK to grab pussies, listen to the excuses coming from defenders of Draft Deferment Donald.
Of course it's different if Bill Clinton did it. Completely inconsistent!
It isn't Christian morality, you ignorant Ozzie, it's civil law, and it is basic decency and courteous behavior toward other human beings. Is that a thing that you cannot understand unless it has chapter and verse in your Big Book-o-Magic?
No; It's not "Christian Morality"....IT'S BASIC HUMAN DECENCY....WHICH ANYONE OF ANY FAITH OR LACK THEREOF CAN HAVE!!!!
GOD! ARE PEOPLE STUPID OR WHAT?!!!
GO BACK TO THE MOST DESOLATE PART OF THE OUTBACK, YOU PINEAPPLE-FACED BUNYIP MONSTER!!!
....AND TAKE BANANAGUY WITH YOU, TOO!
Christianity does not have a monopoly on morality.
In fact, the Christian view of morality is bad. It basically runs on "Do as I say, or else ."
It's not just Ham,every prominent evangelistic spokesperson has been pushing this "Christian values" or "Society get its morals from our teachings" bullshit for the last decade.
Europe abolished slavery and increased womens, childrens and other races, religions rights decades before America BECAUSE it cast off religions nasty racist sexist and enslaving nature. You can actually trace this country by country as they pushed the church back and began democratic processes. They kicked your Puritan shit out for such "Godly" behavior and your own country had to supress that continual attempts to enslave and abuse others as they formed your Republic.
You're the baddies. You always have been. The benign even nurturing church is a product of a secular society and Hams, or those who echo this bullshit are not those churches. Ham continually calls for church rule over all. That gibbon faced bitch is constantly demanding the church rules over schools, media and government. Dark Ages promoter.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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