[If he agreed that Adam existed then he wasn't an atheist. Simple as that - you can't be an atheist and still believe in the origin myth of the the Judeo-Christian religion by definition.]
No true scotsman fallicy.
Take a dose of your own medicine.
36 comments
Believing in Judeo-Christian origin myth --> Believing in Judeo-Christian God
Believing in Judeo-Christian God --> Not being an atheist
I'm not sure whether it's more annoying when these people commit such fallacies or incorrectly assert that others are.
Um.... No.
Incorrect.
try again.
Ray, your knowledge is about 15% complete. If I was you, I'd get cracking on filling out that other 85%. Until then, you sound like a fucking idiot.
Ok, this is retarded, but...
It is conceivable someone might believe that "God" is a super powerful alien being but not supernatural. That person might understand the creation myth as an alien planting an engineered life form (man) on earth.
That person could then still be an atheist and yet believe Adam existed.
The moment you uncover the hidden commandment "Thou shalt not believe you evolved from apes" I'll give that credibility. Unfortunately, Evolution doesn't preclude God at all, and the Bible should not be taken as a science text. So your "turnabout" missed by a longshot.
No true scotsman fallacy? It's not what this dillhole thinks it is. I think he just had that thrown in his face a lot, and wanted to say the loud funny words himself. It's the way people work. I had a friend who was lazy and drunk and refused to get a job, he would whine and I'd tell him to sober up. Eventually he got so pissed off at me he started telling me to do the same, even though I don't drink and am employed. Weird..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman
How the hell is it that stupid people can so effectively pass themselves off as smart? I mean, there's a reason scientists don't like debates and would prefer to let the data talking, but you know, if there really was a just and loving God, something tells me life wouldn't be quite this unfair.
Granted that doesn't rule out, say, Azathoth, but definitely the general conception of YHWH.
An atheist "no true Scotsman fallacy" Would be "no atheists would allow their children to attend a church." Some will some won't.
But you cannot deny god, and then say god made man.
It would be like saying I'm a Christian who sacrifices animals to Satan.
"First question: “Has God ever done anything for you?” Their answer was a predictable “Nothing.” I said, “He gave you life.” Again, a predictable “Our parents gave us life.” I said, “That's right. And their parents gave them life, right back to Adam.” He agreed, then said, “No!!!!,” He laughed, and added “You got me!” That set a relaxed tone for the interview."
If he agreed that Adam existed then he wasn't an atheist. Simple as that - you can't be an atheist and still believe in the origin myth of the the Judeo-Christian religion by definition. Either this guy was extremely confused about what he was or you are misrepresenting this encounter just like all the others.
Nowhere does he mention porridge.
I have a bigger problem with the content of the blog post itself:
I explained the necessity of repentance and faith, and how (if the husband cared about his wife and five kids) he needed to get right with God. He looked at me with wide-eyes and said, “I have never had anyone explain that to me before . . .”
What a fucking crock. There isn't a human being alive in a country with recreational rollerblading who doesn't understand the basic repentance tenet of the Christian faith.
These guys always like to make it sound like they blew the mind of some spiritually blind and ignorant unfortunate. I bet nothing in the blog post ever happened.
Logical contradiction = No true Scotsman, eh?
I'd call him less than intelligent, but I'll go one worse and just say he's a creationist.
Antichrist wrote:
"But you cannot deny god, and then say god made man." It's still conceivable that an atheist could believe that Adam existed. He might be talking about the genealogical concept of the "Y chromosomal Adam", and not the Adam of the Bible, however.
Hell, I believe that most of the Judean and Israelite kings listed in 1 & 2 Kings and 2 Chronicles probably existed, and I even believe that they probably lived for as long as the Bible said they lived. (Except where obvious contradictions rear their ugly heads.) This doesn't mean I believe in the Bible as the True Word of God.
Aww, it's so cute when they try to use arguments they've heard without any real idea what they mean, or where they would actually be valid and effective. It's like cargo cultism applied to the thought process itself.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
To post a comment, you'll need to Sign in or Register . Making an account also allows you to claim credit for submitting quotes, and to vote on quotes and comments. You don't even need to give us your email address.
