[StrongAtheist: The Roman Catholics are Christians...]
That argument defies nearly 500 years of dispute between Reformed and Catholic thinking
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So apparently, there were no Christians for 1,500 years after Christ, until Martin Luther came along. Nothing like fundy logic.
But what do you want to bet this guy includes Catholics as Christians the next time he wants to intimidate atheists by bragging about how many millions of Christians there are in the world?
Wow... fundies really, really have trouble with the notion of "subset". (As in, Catholics are a subset of Christians. Protestents are a subset of Chrisitans. Catholics are not Protestents.)
I suppose this shouldn't be surprising, considering the arguments we hear from them. (e.g. the one that goes "Hitler believed in evolution. Therefore people who believe in evolution are nazis.")
Maybe these people are actually defective in some way? Has anyone ever studied neurological differences between fundies and normal people?
This line of thinking always baffled me. I'm from Boston, so nearly everyone I knew was at least nominally Catholic. (not really everyone, but, you know) I was a teenager before I ran into this Catholics aren't xtians thing. I never got how you can edit someone's relgious text, and then claim it as the only true version.
lytefoot , I have no medical training, but I volunteer to have a look. It might be something obvious, i.e. a brain the size of a pea?
Catholics
First major Christian church
Spread the religon world wide
Established the Trinity
Compiled the Bible
Definetly pure evil.
Actually, No.
The Orthodox Church was the first. Catholicism (Athanasian Christians)
split with the orthodox over their desire to invest the Bishop of Rome with authority over the whole church, rather than the Patriarch of Constaninople.
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It can be argued that those things make the Catholic Church pure evil after all. After all, they compiled the Babble, and defined Christianity. So I can blame them for the fundies, right? xD
>>The Meromorph
Catholics
First major Christian church
Actually, No.
The Orthodox Church was the first. Catholicism (Athanasian Christians) split with the orthodox over their desire to invest the Bishop of Rome with authority over the whole church, rather than the Patriarch of Constantinople.
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The circumstances of the Great Schism were considerably more complicated than that. But in terms of doctrinal differences, many of the post-Reformation denominations are far more different from the Catholics and the Orthodox than the Catholics and Orthodox are from each other. That is despite nearly a millennium of drift since the Schism.
There is ... dispute ... about which of the current denominations best reflects Early Christianity. Of course, given how fluid Early Christianity was (witness the smaller groups that diverged earlier - the Assyrians, the Oriental Orthodox, and many others), such a comparison may be meaningless.
Churches are closing throughout Europe and North America due to lack of parishioners. The number of people in the USA who identify with any religion, including Christianity, is decreasing every year. The last election gave further evidence that the religious right cannot take the passage of its agenda for granted.
All I'm saying is now may not be the time to start excluding people from your club.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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