@A certain person in this thread who shall remain clueless
So you're trying to suggest that a white man from Hull is somehow associated with racists by implication? At this point you being reduced to playing the race card is pathetic.
...when the evidence (via my comment in the linked thread) proves otherwise. I just find your denial that right-wing Fundamentalist Christian =/= Nazi hilarious on this one... And your ilk - as proven by the likes of George HW Bush, and Mike Fuckabee - proves that they want nothing less than to deny the rights of those who aren't exactly like them; I don't see you personally going out and saying they're wrong for even thinking about having such 'opinions' - the same as a certain Austrian who wanted no less than to deny the rights of those not exactly like him. Atheists/non-fundie Christians = Jews.
What are you doing to campaign to make Politically Incorrect thinking illegal, dearie? The same kind of thinking expressed by the Nazis, and which thousands of good people died in WWII to eliminate.
At least by voting Labour, I'm doing my part in ensuring the MP I vote in Parliament will make sure that legislation exists that eliminates the evil of extreme right-wing thinking from peoples' minds (we don't forget how said certain Austrian who had ideas above his station dared to think he had the right to attack my country, in his attempt to force his own right-wing poison in the UK; a slippery slope that's arrested by the fact that the Neo-Nazi British National Party have gotten nowhere in the UK politically). And even legislation that makes discriminating against minorities - even racism, sexism & homophobia by word, action & thought - a criminal offence: Thoughtcrime.
Yes, you heard. Thoughtcrime. Especially via Sections 4 & 5 of the Public Order Act. And so what if that means we here in the UK don't have an equivalent of Fred Phelps & his WBC, with their unjustifiable way of thinking, never mind 'protests'? So discriminatory fundies like them - via the law - aren't allowed to exist here in the UK? I have no problem with that. I seem to remember you having a problem with LGBT people. Just like Fred Phelps & co; like I say: Hitler hated homosexuals* too.
Moral: If minorities discriminate against other people for unjustifiable reasons (certainly because of what they're told to 'believe' by others), then what does that make them...?!
*- And as your so-called 'God' hates homosexuals, and instructs his 'believers' - via 'cherrypicking' from his 'Word' - to do the same,therefore he = Hitler. And as you should know all too well, Discrimination = Evil, ergo, right-wing Fundamentalist Christianity = Nazism. Q.E. and D. Remember how homosexuals were exterminated in the Holocaust too; hated purely for the crime of existing.
Homo Hater = Nazi. Are you a hater, dearie? And no, homosexuality = 'Sin' (but 'loving' the sinner) not allowed. Mortal law is superior to that of your so-called 'God'. And the laws of all normal, decent, civilised, democratic countries state that homosexuality = legal. If you go against democratic laws & rights, then you = anti-democracy. And remember how a certain Austrian hated democracy too...!
Thus my question via that initial quote (especially re. 'Morality'): Agree, or disagree?
Consider this:
http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=86722&Page=1
"indoctrinate students in public school, restricting the free speech of opposition, obtaining special treatment for homosexuals"
Now substitute 'Homosexuals' for 'African-Americans' in the above. Done that? Good. Well then. I rest my case. As I say here:
http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=86256&Page=2
'Moral: Don't show tolerance for others, you have absolutely no right whatsoever to be tolerated yourself'
Question: Why is it that I tolerate the likes of the Quakers, Amish/Mennonites, Unitarian Universalists, Buddhists, Sufi Muslims, Pastafarians et al...?
http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=85408&Page=5
You're no stranger to not answering questions - especially those which, if you dared to answer such to our satisfaction, would leave you with no alternative but admit that everything you say, do, think & 'believes' is wrong in perpetuity, we Atheists are always right, and therefore you'd have to recant your unjustifiable 'beliefs' and become an Atheist yourself.
From the above thread:
'Remember: there were those decades ago, who considered that African-American people being given more rights would cause untold damage to American society. Like I say, NAACP & ACLU ring any bells, dearie?
Homophobia = Racism. Both bigotry. Both unjusifiable. Ergo, right-wing fundamentalist Christians who speak word one against LGBT people in any way = Racists; you = Fred Phelps. Q.E.D.
You of all people should realise the unjustifiability, nay, worse than sin you speak, whenever you say anything other than 'Gay people are decent, civilised human beings who have as much right to exist as African-American people do. To live in peace and security as everyone else does. With equal rights, just as everyone else has. Without anyone even thinking anything derogatory about them.'
Remember the placards carried by certain people decades ago, which said 'I Am A Man'? Continue on the way you bigoted fundies do with your unjustifiable attitudes, and how long before you see protest marches with LGBT people carrying placards saying 'I Am A HUMAN'? You tell me.
Moral: You of all people being bigoted towards other people not exactly like you? Oh, the double-standards. Oh, the hypocrisy. Oh, the SHAME! The phrase 'Pot calling the Kettle black' exists for a reason.
Just as you would be the first to say to others 'You have NO right to say the 'N'-word!' Well, now you know how certain people feel, dearie, whenever, as you say here:
http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=81077&Page=7
"I am blunt and speak my mind. If it offends people, that is their issue, not mine"
About the equally unjustifiable things you say about others not exactly like you. Now, that use of the 'N'-word by others who aren't African-Americans. Is it your issue if you are offended by such, nay, worse...?
You. Tell. Me.
And there were Caucasian people who once used the Bible to justify their race-based bigotry. Like I say: Racism = Homopobia. Both attitudes have no right to exist (not even in people's minds, as you of all people should acknowledge). Ergo you = Fred Phelps. Q.E. and D.
...unless you change that attitude of yours, dearie. And everyone else like you. Remember: so many good people died in WWII to eliminate the same attitudes exhibited by a certain Austrian, who was also a fundamentalist Christian; attitudes which had absolutely no right to exist in the first place.
The last thing I would want would be is to be equated with your country's ultimate hyper-bigot (or that of a certain Austrian). Do you?'
http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=85408&Page=4
'Fundie religion once held absolute sway, centuries ago. But it's found wanting today. And people don't want it. Times change. Technologies change. Attitudes must change. The only beliefs allowed to exist - certainly in civilised democratic societies based on Rule of Law - are those which are hyper-tolerant (Civilised democracy fought against the hyper-bigoted, right-wing Hitler in WWII, to eliminate his attitudes that had no right to exist in the first place). Yours must adapt (like the Quakers, Buddhists, Sufi Muslims & Unitarian Universalists have) - or die. They've certainly become all but extinct here in Europe. Good. The only thing we don't tolerate is intolerance. Five words: Fred Phelps. Westboro Baptist Church.
Your time, fundies - as the dominant paradigm - is over. Your light is dying. As it was with the exact same unjustified, bigoted attitudes before the Civil Rights movement, pre-Rosa Parks - and what happened afterwards. NAACP and ACLU ring any bells?
As it is with the new Civil Rights Movement today, re. LGBT people'.
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'The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control freak ... homophobic, racist, ... capriciously malevolent bully.'
-Richard Dawkins
'God of Love', eh...?! 'Free offer! God's Unconditional* Love!'
*- Terms and Conditions apply.
'Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.'
-Marcus Aurelius
...oh, and use of bad analogy, re. Karl Marx. Your argument is invalid.
Right-wing Fundamentalist Christianity: Dominion - and [i]destruction[/i] of the masses. I refer you to the quotes at the top of this page.