Diana Lesperance #fundie

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What hope is there for the world when it is filled with sin and false religion?

This is why I write about the great blessings that have been brought about by the Bible. What other hope does the world have? Hitchens thought the only hope was a world without religion, but then, if that world included the abolition of Christianity, it would be a world that was still filled with slavery, child sacrifice, cannibalism, illiteracy, scientific backwardness, disease, and on and on, because it certainly hasn’t been the atheists who have rid the world of all of these plagues. It has been fundamentalist Christianity that has improved the world.

Even now, atheists have barely made any contributions to the world’s problems. What I see them doing for the most part is traversing web sights and making snide remarks and ad hominem attacks on anybody who believes in the scriptures in any way.

What is the evolutionary hope for the world? What is the atheist Christmas?

Is it Barack Obama? Is it the Dalai Lama? Is it communism? Is it a world without religion, as Hitchens believed? What is the hope of the world to you?

31 comments

old comment by Swede

The Bible is perfectly fine with slavery, child sacrifice, cannibalism, illiteracy, scientific backwardness, disease, etc.

Fundamentalist Christianity gave us the Spanish Inquisition, the Dark Ages, the witch-hunts, the Lord's Resistance Army, and idiots like Ken Ham and Kim Davis. Is that what you mean with "improving the world", then I don't want the world "improved".

Yes, atheists make very little contribution to the world's problem. We mostly focus on contributing to the solutions instead. Religion is one of the largest contributor to the problems, making them larger and harder to solve.

Christmas is originally a pagan holiday of Winter Solstice and Saturnalia.

old comment by Canadiest

Holy fucking deluded.

Bad enough to claim our betterment to Christianity, worse to give credit in anyway to fundamentalist Christianity, hardly been around for a hundred years and trying to drag us back to the 16th century.

It makes sense this bs comes from a fundamentalist logically though. They are the worst for any historical knowledge, even shunning the historical consensus built up by real historians in favor of fictional rewrites.

They even blatantly admit this sometimes in the pretence it's better for everyone (American Exceptionalism:where you're not exceptional just claim you are and ban all evidence to the contrary. facts aren't as important as perception. I'm pretty sure that fundamentalism introduced this into Conservatism and Tea Party Republican mindsets)

old comment by Hasan Prishtina

It has been fundamentalist Christianity that has improved the world.

As fundamentalist Christianity has not been around for two centuries, that's a pretty tall claim. Let's examine the evidence.

Slavery - the movement to abolish slavery was joined by many people from the irreligious Tom Paine to the evangelical - but not fundamentalist - William Wilberforce. You also forget anti-slavery movements in the non-English speaking world.

Child sacrifice - human sacrifice was ended in Europe long before Protestantism came into existence, never mind fundamentalism. Judaism and Islam forbade it very early on. The missionaries who stamped it out in the Americas were largely Catholic.

Cannibalism - Again, almost vanishingly few number of occurrences in places with a majority of Christians, Jews or Muslims. The taboo on cannibalism precedes Christianity, never mind fundamentalism.

Illiteracy - show me one society, just one, that owes its literacy to fundamentalist Christianity. Considering the Eastern bloc and China, Communists has been more effective in spreading literacy than fundamentalist Christians.

Scientific backwardness - A few scientific advances have been made by fundamentalist Christians, but most haven't and, again, the same claim could be made by communists. Today, however, fundamentalist Christians are in the forefront of promoting scientific backwardness.

Disease - Fundamentalist Christians have made a modest contribution to the medical profession, but many of the major figures in that profession have been Catholics, Jews, Lutherans, atheists etc. There aren't many fundamentalist Christians among the Nobel laureates for medicine.

@ Swede

The Bible describes cannibalism, it doesn't make approving statements about it.

old comment by Glandu

@Ladilesper ; most commenters here haver read the Bible from beginning to the end. I did not, But I sure read the first 6 books, until the end of Joshua, plus all gospels & Apocalypse.

So I cannot speak for several things, especially cannibalism. Still I've read slavery described as normal(and even with standardized prices), diseases spread out by the lord, and used by him as a tool for noone knows what, and child sacrifice being specifically asked by the lord.

That's in the f*****g book! Rapes, false accusations of rape, incest, murder, spying, mass warfare, mass prisoner execution, all this I4ve read in the 6 first books of the OT. After, I got bored. And I'm not counting the absolute scientific nonsense that genesis & the flood are.

For reaching our hearts, you'd better forget your book, and show us how full of love is your heart. If muslims fleeing a terrible war(there are a few, right now) settle as refugees right in front of your home, will you welcome them? Help their children learn your language? Greet them as fellow sons of God? Or be a nasty evil person insulting them, or slamming them Bible verses when they need food & administrative help?

"they'll know we are christians by our love" is a song. "christian love" did not impress me. At all.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

"What hope is there for the world when it is filled with sin and false religion?"

...Josh Buggar? [/KDC4G]

Sides, this is Houston, you are go for launch.

"Even now, atheists have barely made any contributions to the world’s problems."

At least you're right there: We Atheists aren't the ones causing them. In the words of John Lennon:

(*Sings*)

'Nothing to kill or die fo
And no religion too'

"What I see them doing for the most part is traversing web sights and making snide remarks"

If you lot never did anything wrong in action, thought and word, then FSTDT would never exist.

...oh, and why do we never quote Quakers, Unitarian Universalists et al? You tell me, Lieana Desperate.

"What is the hope of the world to you?"

That either you fundies make like a Quaker and STFU in perpetuity. Voluntarily and of your own free will [/Irony], or via Kim Il-Davis-esque 'Sword of Damocles' Thoughtcrime legislation.

Kimmypoos is proof that it can happen. So indeed: where is your 'God' now, fundies...?! [/'Tribulation'] >:D