[. Twist of nature, comparable to i.e.siamese twins...
...or to Down's syndrome.]
...or to the most similar of all mental disorders to "homosexuality": pedophilia
it has been scientifically proven that "homosexuality" is caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain combined with an over-exaggeration of the need to be loved
just because it is a genetic defect, that does not *exscuse* it. pedophiles and serial killers are born with mental defects too; and that does not justify their deviant behaviour. neither does it in the case of "homosexuality"
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"it has been scientifically proven that "homosexuality" is caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain combined with an over-exaggeration of the need to be loved" Citation needed. And, no. It can't be from a study conducted by Focus On The Family.
"just because it is a genetic defect, that does not *exscuse* it. pedophiles and serial killers are born with mental defects too; and that does not justify their deviant behaviour. neither does it in the case of "homosexuality"" So which is it? A chemical imbalance or a genetic defect? Your argument has more holes than your holy babble.
This one must have a most capacious arse that he can pull so much out of it.
Navaros, I do not excuse my 'being'. You are an arrogant bastard to even think in those terms about anyone.
If we need to see mental defects, we need look no further than you, and the shameless way you parade you bigotry.
Navaros, what you know about science could fit in a Chick Tract and be about as accurate.
"it has been scientifically proven that 'homosexuality' is caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain combined with an over-exaggeration of the need to be loved "
Hmm... I could say the same thing for Christians and their fanatical devotion to their god.
"...or to the most similar of all mental disorders to "homosexuality": pedophilia"
As similar as night to day.
"it has been scientifically proven that "homosexuality" is caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain combined with an over-exaggeration of the need to be loved"
Yeah? Where? Which peer reviewed journal is this to be found in? What's the name of the study? Which organization performed it? What were their methods? What are their results? Where's their data? Where did they get the data? What are the credentials of those who performed the study? What is their field of expertise?
I'd be curious to see the answer to just one of those questions.
"just because it is a genetic defect, that does not *exscuse* it."
It's not a "defect" any more than having blue eyes instead of brown is a "defect".
"pedophiles and serial killers are born with mental defects too; and that does not justify their deviant behaviour. neither does it in the case of "homosexuality""
Luckily homosexuality doesn't need to be excused as it's not a mental, or any other kind, of "defect".
Nobody's proved a genetic link at this point. And even if there is a genetic link the reason it would harm someone would not be an inherent problem, but from outside influences, i.e. people like you who treat them like crap because they're a little different. Otherwise there wouldn't be perfectly happy and well-adjusted homosexuals (which there are; if you don't live completely under a rock you probably know or have met at least one).
Right, because scores of people have already been killed and children traumatised by my homosexuality. It's a perfect comparison!
By the way fucktard... no mental phenomenon is either the cause or a result of a chemical imbalance in the brain. It IS the chemistry in the brain.
I thought it had been "scientifically proven" that homosexuality was a choice. You people should get your story settled and then get back to us.
Also, child molestation and serial killing have victims. Can you name the victims of my sexual orientation? Take your time; I'll wait.
Just how dumb are you, Navaros?
Pedophiles and murderers require no "excuses." They are crimes in our society and these perps are put away to prevent them from hurting others. Understanding the reasons for such behavior helps us in the prevention of such crimes.
Homosexuality hurts no one. It is a gender orientation like being a woman or a man.
Get your facts right before you spout off, dickbrain.
Oh please. The youth director of the fundie church in the town I live in was just dismissed and charges are pending for him having sex with a 15 year old girl. He is a grown hetrosexual married man with 3 small children.
They are also investigating some shannigans going on in their daycare center. Since it's a fundie church, I'm sure they aren't hiring many gay or lesbians for the daycare, so everyone involved would be straight.
If you are a sexual predator, that's what you are, sexual orientation has nothing to do with it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah you bigoted fuckwad.
Ozzie wrote:
"Oh please. The youth director of the fundie church in the town I live in was just dismissed and charges are pending for him having sex with a 15 year old girl." If she was 15, it wasn't pedophilia.
(Ephebophilia, yes. But not pedophilia.)
Two homosexuals loving each other, those are not hurting anyone else. Pedophiles attacking children and serial killers killing a series of people, those really ARE hurting others.
Let's focus on the ball here, little Navaros. In what way are homosexuals disturbing YOUR life, hurting YOU? Do you even know any homosexuals, personal? I bet you do, but they have not revealed their love interest to you.
What does it matter who anyone goes to bed with? As long as both are consenting adults, it's no-one else's business. And it has no bearing on everyday life, in any way, what so ever.
"it has been scientifically proven that "homosexuality" is caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain combined with an over-exaggeration of the need to be loved"
Citation please. Scientists are indeed looking at the genetic causes combined with nuture but no firm conclusions have been reached. A chemical imbalance... WTF
just because it is a genetic defect,
A genetic cause is not the same as a defect. Your ignorance is showing again.
pedophiles and serial killers are born with mental defects too
Paedophiles and serial killers do not get consent. Gay people are together because they choose to be. See the difference? Paedophiles and killers do harm, consenting gay couples do not.
*exscuse*
Learn to spell (and capitalise) your sentences arsehole. You will never be able to pass yourself off as intelligent with this level of stupidity.
weeeellll...there is a VAST difference between pedophiles and serial killers, and gays. you see, pedos and killers have these mental defects, and they can't really help it, but the fact remains that they are molesting/raping/KILLING another being. whereas the gays aren't harming anyone, because it is between TWO CONSENTING ADULTS.
OK, let's assume that's true for a second. I'm willing to play along that science has shown there is evidence that homosexuality is caused by a chemical imbalance, and that psychological factors play a large role. I'm also willing to play devil's advocate in calling it "deviant behavior", though that has a rather negative connotation.
The question you should be asking yourself is "So what?" Yes, pedophilia and serial murder are deviant also. The primary difference here is that in those cases there is a perpetrator and a victim. Homosexuality involves neither, at least not when considered by itself. The difference between sex and a sex crime is informed consent. Homosexuality, if left alone, is entirely self-contained and vicimless.
Furthermore, if what you say is true and it IS caused by a chemical imbalance, then you don't have to worry about your precious, precious chil'rens catching it, unless you intend to also suggest that chemical imbalances are contagious.
"...or to the most similar of all mental disorders to "homosexuality": pedophilia"
Same shit, different day [sigh]
it has been scientifically proven that "homosexuality" is caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain combined with an over-exaggeration of the need to be loved
Bullshit, pure and simply bullshit.
"it has been scientifically proven that "homosexuality" is caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain combined with an over-exaggeration of the need to be loved"
citation, citation, CITATION?
"it has been scientifically proven that "homosexuality" is caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain"
so, natural then. Not a sin. I think you're referring to pre-natal hormonality. It's not proven, it's just the best hypothesis we have.
As for paedophilia, there's a possiblity of that, although there's likely to be more to it (like the fact that many paedophiles were abused as children). Now go away and see if your moral compass is able to function on such a dilemma.
...or to the most similar of all mental disorders to "homosexuality": pedophilia
it has been scientifically proven that "homosexuality" is caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain combined with an over-exaggeration of the need to be loved P iled h igh and D eep? Didn't think so.
just because it is a genetic defect, that does not *exscuse* it.
pedophiles and serial killers are born with mental defects too; and that does not justify their deviant behaviour.
neither does it in the case of "homosexuality"
"pedophiles and serial killers are born with mental defects too;"
Um, no alot of them are not. Also, two homosexuals who love and care for each other doesn't hurt anyone. Unlike pedo's and serial killers.
every other fundie in the world is wringing their bullshit dispensers dry trying to prove that being gay ISN'T something your born with.
it's astonishing that even with the exact opposite belief this guy still has the exact same conclusion and the bulk of the argument is completely unchanged.
you could use this alone for an essay demonstrating the non sequidur in both arguments.
/...or to the most similar of all mental disorders to "homosexuality": pedophilia/
Oh, dear Lord, not this nonsense again.
/it has been scientifically proven that "homosexuality" is caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain/
Proven by which scientists, Navaros? When? How?
/combined with an over-exaggeration of the need to be loved/
"An over-exaggeration of the need to be loved?" What the heck is that? EVERYBODY has the right to want to be loved. The only people who don't care about being loved are sociopaths who lack all emotional feeling. But everybody deserves love and compassion.
/just because it is a genetic defect, that does not *exscuse* it. pedophiles and serial killers are born with mental defects too; and that does not justify their deviant behaviour. neither does it in the case of "homosexuality"/
Society does not look down on their behavior because it is deviant. We look down on their behavior because it is HARMFUL. Pedophiles and serial killers hurt people with their actions. Homosexuality harms nobody. It is not equivalent to pedophilia any more than heterosexuality is equivalent to pedophilia. Get over yourself.
Be suspicious of anyone who needs to be loved! Report them to your local chapter Pure Straight Men!
Heyyyyy, waaait...GOD demands love upon pain of eternal sodomy and fire...
None of that makes any sense whatsoever. Why would a "need to be loved" result in being gay? Why does being "deviant behaviour" mean it is wrong or harmful? Furthermore, if it's "scientifically proven," where is the evidence?
The difference is that molesting children hurts people, entering into adult unions with other adults of the same sex and gender, does not, asswipe.
Also, citation really really REALLY fucking needed.
> just because it is a genetic defect, that does not *exscuse* it.
The fact that it doesn't hurt anybody "excuses" it.
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