There are no hidden messages and Science is the one that uses the Alphabet not me. In case you have not noticed "DNA" are letters from our alphabet. The only question here is what came first, the chemicals or the letters that we assign to the chemicals. I say the letters came first.
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In case you haven't notice, JohnR7 is an ASS. There is no hidden message in that and science had no part in it, for I am the one that used the alphabet. The only question here is, how fucking stupid can one human be a still be able to string the alphabet together to form words and sentences? I'd say with his kind of argument, he should be drooling in a cup.
Desperation, thy name is JohnR7.
More like "Proudly marching to the film set of 'What the *bleep* do we know?!'" award, Gerard.
Remember the ships that were invisible to the South American natives, since they had no knowledge of such vessels' existence? :rolleyes:
There are no hidden messages and Science is the one that uses the Alphabet not me.
You don't use the alphabet? Then how do you type these ravings on the Web -- telepathy?
In case you have not noticed "DNA" are letters from our alphabet.
True. Spew enough random sentences and an occasional one is bound to have some actual fact to it.
The only question here is what came first, the chemicals or the letters that we assign to the chemicals. I say the letters came first.
Wait, you mean that DNA could not exist until we had developed language, then eventually created an alphabet, and then DNA came into existence? Since DNA is the foundation of organic life (well, just a step or two above amino acids, anyway), that would be quite a neat trick for us to invent language and an alphabet even before the first organic life came into existence. Sorry, JohnR7, but this is just nuts.
~David D.G.
Yes, not only did DNA come first, but it evolved and mutated into D eoxyriboN ucleic A cid.
Sooooo then. Look no further, this years Ignoble prize for Outstanding research into Asshattery goes to John R7. (Eat your heart out Hovind)
@MK
And notice that Kent is the same as the last name of Clark Kent, who was also Superman! It's a hidden message!
What makes this sad is that this makes far more sense what what JohnR7 was spewing.
I cannot read this post without being reminded of a family guy quote.
Peter: "Hey brian, there's a message in my alphabet soup. It says 'oooooooo'."
Brian: "Peter, those are cheerios."
I swear JohnR7 is getting dumber by the day, and he's trying to drag the rest of us down with him.
@Papabear
Is this guy for real? This is so over-the-top dumb, could he be a troll?
Not likely. The guy has over 20k posts; most of which consist of well thought out ideas such as the one presented here.
@David D.G.
Wait, you mean that DNA could not exist until we had developed language, then eventually created an alphabet, and then DNA came into existence? No, his point is essentially "In the beginning was the word." The end of his post, which makes it clear, wasn't replicated here. @JohnR7Genesis 1:11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass
Through the letters we assign to DNA we can see how what God said, became DNA to bring forth the grass. Of course, he forgets that God speaking does not imply God writing. And the Latin alphabet is man's relatively recent invention -- and is certainly far from God's language.
It's stupid, yes, but it's a slightly different stupid.
Ooooookay... one whopper tops another. His next post:
"It was made of the same thing it is made of now. Written language is a way to express spoken language. DNA is a way to express the spoken langage of God.
Let me give you something real simple so that a child can understand it. DNA code is made up of ACGT. The A here is the first letter in the alphabet. It is the beginning and DNA is also the beginning of everthing that is living. C stands for Christians. It is the Christians that are here to deliver God's message to the world. G of course stands for God. It is God who is expressing Himself in the DNA and thus God is expressing Himself in Creation. The T of course expresses God and the head or in His leadership over man. There is a lot that can be said about this, but now is not the place. If you have a small t then of course you have the cross that Jesus gave Himself for us. If you have a small g you will see that God has expressed Himself in us. The small c of course represents our humility before God. If we have pride or ego or are puffed up before God, then it is not going to work according to God's plan and purpose. The small a of course shows how things start off small in the beginning and over time they become greater. A journey of 1000 steps begins with one step. A study of the Bible begins with one word and one passage at a time.
That is pretty much the extent of it. In order to get more out of it, you would have to look at it in the origional Hebrew Language. We are limited using English because they have made changes to try to make it easier to learn and that tends to cause it to lose meaning.
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David - True, the written form of Ancient Hebrew did not, though the spoken form did. The use of dots and marks to indicate proper vowel sounds became necessary because of all the mistakes that could be made by reading nothing but consonants.
MK, he's not talking about SOUNDS; he's talking about LETTERS, and in the English alphabet yet. What's more, as his even-more-wildly-insane next post shows, he STILL insists on using English letters as if that's what God used, then refers to the original Hebrew as the "more correct" version of things. This guy is either the most devotedly brilliant troll imaginable or possibly an example of the weirdest selective truncation of higher brain functions that I have ever seen.
~David D.G.
John I'm going to use FSTDT to say to you what I can't on ChristianForums.
Get your fat fucking head out of your fat fucking arse. You NEED to come up for air.
Once you have removed your fucking head from your lower bowel I suggest that you try reading a fucking biology book.
And when you're told stuff, please try the fuck to fucking take it in.
Nrrrrrrrrrrgh.
You arrogant, ignorant, deluded jizz-sandwich.
"There are no hidden messages and Science is the one that uses the Alphabet not me. In case you have not noticed "DNA" are letters from our alphabet. The only question here is what came first, the chemicals or the letters that we assign to the chemicals. I say the letters came first."
This is even worse than the first quote.
Why? WHY? WHY must you be so dense?
I propose a new universal rule:
No matter how low the bar is set, JohnR7 is a sure bet to trip over it and land flat on his face.
If it weren't for the fact that he's been absolutely consistent in his insanity for so long, I'd be certain he's a troll. I went through plenty of irony meters before I figured out how to jerry-rig a precision filter to get accurate readings on severely ironic posts, but now I may have to invest in a stupidity filter; this post melted my old one. And it looks like his follow-up will be a severe stress-test for whatever new setup I get.
Aside from the biology lesson, this numbskull needs a good linguistics and phonetics lesson: language just doesn't work that way, and neither does logic.... I mean, I was 3yo at most when I learned that there were other languages beside French, and 4-5yo when I realized that other people probably thought in their own maternal language, but this fucktard seems to be still convinced that English is the language of Dog....
DNA is part of all living things, and therefore, BY YOUR OWN SCRIPTURE (as well as by scientific study, philosophy, and even straight up common sense) is older than the alphabet.
Scripturally, it is because living things were created before the Fall, and there was no need of writing, because there was no need of a holy book, before the Fall.
Scientifically, life has existed far longer than any sort of writing, let alone the modern alphabet.
Philosophically, a thing must exist, or at least be a concept, prior to being named.
As far as common sense goes, the alphabet as we know it has its roots in the Greeks and Romans, who did not become major players until approximately 3000 years after you inexplicably place the start of the universe... Far more, for those of us not cursed with a need to cling to scriptures...
Following that line of thought, the alphabet as we know it is still actually pretty new. Lower case letters didn't even start to appear until about 750 years after the alleged death of Jesus of Nazareth...
Even for a grand master of the game like JohnR7 this is taking stupid to whole new, breathtaking levels.
Something cannot exist until we have a name for it? Fuck, that's funny.
You are writing, aren't you? Then you ARE using the alphabet.
The letters for the chemicals are the initial letter of the name for that specific chemical. The chemical came first, as that has been around for millions of years. The art of writing has only been around a few thousand years, and humans have only known about these chemicals a few decades.
When we named them, that's when the letters came into the mix.
DNA is DeoxyriboNucleic Acid.
Then we have:
Adenine (A)
Guanine (G)
Cytosine (C)
Thymine (T)
Hm.
The letters in the words:
"GARGANTUAN MORONIC DRIBBLING SPASTICATED WANKSTAIN"
are from our alphabet, too. These are the letters I'm assigning to you.
Hang on. Wasn't there a short story, maybe by Asimov (I might be wildly off with the author, so feel free to correct me) whereby the things that man thought of became true? Things like Dante's circles of hell popped into being when they were imagined by the minds of men. I think that John R7 might be getting confused with that. I hope so, otherwise his anti-psychotics are wearing off rapidly.
Confused?
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