They ask you, 'suppose your son was a homosexual, what would you do?' Now this is what philosophers call a reductio ad absurdum. Suppose your son was a dog-man? Of course he cannot be my son if he is a homosexual, or a dog-man. He could be my anything else, but not a son. He cannot be anybody's son. Sons don't marry other men, nor do they allow other men to marry them.
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"Now this is what philosophers call a reductio ad absurdum"
The only absurdity here is coming from you. Dog-man doesn't exist, gay men do, do you get my drift? Nope, I thought not.
When you grow a brain, get back to us...
So... if gay men have no parents, where do they come from? The Debul? I thought only Gawd could create life?
Of all the homophobic arguments I've heard, this is definitely the most absurd. And the most stupid. You're a fucking idiot, Barrack Muluka.
So you're rewriting the English language to change the definition of "son" from "male offspring" to "male offspring, provided he behaves the way I want him to"? Unlike the example, which is not a reductio ad absurdum , this is what philosophers call the "no true Scotsman" fallacy.
They ask you, 'suppose your son was a homosexual, what would you do?'
Do? What is their to do? It would be no different than if he was with a woman. Be there for him when he needs me. Make his husband feel welcome in the family(as long as he's deserving of my son, of course!).
Now this is what philosophers call a reductio ad absurdum. Suppose your son was a dog-man? Of course he cannot be my son if he is a homosexual, or a dog-man.
I can't even...what is this?
He could be my anything else, but not a son. He cannot be anybody's son. Sons don't marry other men, nor do they allow other men to marry them.
Here's to hoping all your children are gay!
No. If you have a male child and you are one of the two people who provided the genetics that he has, that's your son.
You can disown him, but he's still your son whether he's gay or part-dog or a sparkly vampire.
No, he'd still be your son, and if you had the slightest bit of a heart you'd still love him for who he is.
But you probably don't and probably wouldn't.
Folks, it's all so simple. Gay people aren't anyone's sons because we grow from cuttings, like houseplants. Haven't you wondered why all of the guys at the twink bar look exactly alike? That's why. And did you really think "Castro clone" was just a figure of speech?
Reductio ad absurdum is actually a sound debating tactic. That, however, is not an example of it. Reductio ad absurdum is when you demonstrate that someone else's claims lead to absurdity.
All you're saying is that you would disown a child who has done nothing wrong simply because you don't like his sexual orientation. You are not a good parent.
Fine, if you want to play word games - "what are you going to do if your son says he is attracted to boys and not girls"
Now wiggle your way out of that..unless you want to redifine those words as well
The quote is taken from his article "Homosexual Perversion is a Threat To The Survival of Humankind".
He didn't explain how this is 'A threat to the survival of mankind', so I'll explain for him.
Closeted Barrack Muluka thinks homosexual guys are so sexy every straight guy will give up women to be with gays. That's the threat to the survival of mankind.
"They ask you, 'suppose your son was a homosexual, what would you do?' Now this is what philosophers call a reductio ad absurdum."
No it's not you halfwit.
"Suppose your son was a dog-man? Of course he cannot be my son if he is a homosexual, or a dog-man. He could be my anything else, but not a son. He cannot be anybody's son. Sons don't marry other men, nor do they allow other men to marry them."
You have issues. Deep rooted ones, likely to do with your own sexuality. Perhaps you should take care of those before pondering the sexual orientation of a hypothetical offspring.
Uh... what? The status of "son" isn't suddenly revoked. I didn't become a being born of asexual means when I realized I like boys.
And even if your point is that my sexuality voids my ties to my family, that's equally ridiculous: my family stands by me as have the families of many homosexuals.
This is another avenue through which to de-humanize homosexuals. Make us seem so much more alien and strange and ostracized and it becomes easier to hate us.
Male offspring = son.
Like it or not.
No, he'd still be your son.
(hint: you don't get to change the dictionary definitions of words just because you're a bigoted peice of shit. Actually, ESPECIALLY because you're a bigoted peice of shit).
Because gay people don't have parents--they arise spontaneously from the dirt! Dipshit.
Or is his point the even more moronic "That's not a son, that's a DAUGHTER with a penis, hurr hurr."
Disown your kids for Jeebuz!
EDIT: Or Mohammad, Thor, FSM or whatever.
ATTACK OF THE GAY WERE-DOGS!!!
AAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOO!!! WOOF! WOOF!
"Hi! I'm Barf! I'm a Mog...Half man, half dog...I'm my own best friend."
He could be my anything else, but not a son.
So, you're basically saying you'd disown your son?
Sons don't marry other men, nor do they allow other men to marry them.
In California, Iowa, & Massachussetts they do. Or remember what they say about something being not just a river in Egypt.
As a former philosophy student, reductio ad absurdum doesn't mean what you think it means. Unless you can demonstrate that parthenogenesis exists, homosexual's are somebody's children, biological or otherwise.
In other words, "Gays are hatched from eggs."
That's reductio ad absurdum, dumbass.
'suppose your son was a homosexual, waht would you do?' I would ask him what kind of flowrs he would want for his wedding. What part of 'unconditional love' do you not understand? If you concieved him and welcomed him into your house, he is your son whether or not you agree with whom he is sleeping with
I would be very happy first; "I have a son? GREAT!". Then I would be a little bit sorry for him, being a homosexual carries with it certain (stupid) problems that heterosexuals don't have to deal with. After that I would love him for who he is. I would be very happy for him if he found someone to marry, regardless of gender.
You is stupid! Homosexuals don't pop out of the ground spontaneously; they have parents just like everyone else.
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Hi Mr.Barack,am orgaising secretary of Kwisero university student association who real enjoy your articles.how i wish that people like you could rule Kwisero.am currently a 4th year student at Moi university wishing to meet you.we have agood organisation that each politician from khwiz want to politisiz.Atwoli and indakwa are real on our neck please come for help.
emmal:emmanuelambaisiosore@yahoo.com
phone +254716951571
Hey Barrack - if you're so straight, how come your page carries adverts for an extremely gay looking site called uniformdating.com? Apparently I can date a dishy policeman or a soldier if I sign up. Yummy. Thanks for that.
(Oh, btw, you are a fucking moron who doesn't deserve children, gay or straight)
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