(Neopagan blogger shares an e-mail from a fellow neopagan:)
i find your attempt to christianize paganism laughable. the first time i heard your name i knew you were one of these blasphemous hippie idiots trying to destroy paganism and turn it into some pacifist sterile PC bullshit. and i saw a video of you wearing the star of david. thats why i serve morrigan. there is no way you can soften her, and turn her into the joke that you have turned the rest of the old gods into. i also think it’s funny how you promote letting n***ers and f***ots in and then call people like me, who’s ancestors worshipped these gods “fake”. i always like to listen to people like you when i need a laugh. and you jews are really arrogant nowdays. you dont even try to hide what you are doing.
i find it interesting how you take up for your filthy jew ancestors, claiming to be a pagan. ANY pagan who knows history should hate jews. it was the jews who bribed constantine to enforce christianity, and thats why rome got it’s ass kicked. and here you are trying to do the same thing. like i said, it’s obvious wether you try to deny it or not. you’re just another filthy judeo-pig and nobody with half a brain would give you a second thought.
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Your religion their religion, it all comes down to who kills who in the name of something else.
Except in Great Cthulus case of course. :)
The Jews bribed Constantine to enforce Christianity????
I don't know, I guess I'm not up on my Roman history but that doesn't sound right to me.
The rest is quite filled with hate.
Errr...we tend to frown on bigotry, actually. Although I will admit that it makes my ass tiree when people attempt to Christianize paganism..."Christian witches", "Jesus was a witch", etc.
And lastly, might I suggest you find a deity who is a bit less angry?
@EvoPagan: "Although I will admit that it makes my ass tired when people attempt to Christianize paganism... "Christian witches", "Jesus was a witch", etc."
Why isn't that trying to paganise Christianity, just out of interest?
A Pagan Fundie, with a side of RSTDT. We don't get to see that every day.
Now, speaking of people with half a brain...
Fail at Roman history. (And Judaism's as well.)
Fail at Irish paganism.
Fail at spelling. (Not that I'm surprised, though...)
Also, a brief look at the link provided allowed me to notice that the blogger wrote that he/she was not Jew. So, in other words, pretty much everything in there is WRONG. YOU LOSE!
This really pisses me off! I'm a white Pagan, and I think of the Gods as, say, "God of Storms" or "God of Flowers." I think of all the names, faces, and stories as suggestions, just other humans' ways to understand Them. We Americans at least are all so mixed-up anyway, it's stupid to only worship "your" pantheon, IMHO. I encountered people like this early in my Pagan journey (I converted in 1996, and I will not be corrected on that word "converted," either). I hoped I wouldn't again.
I am EXTREMELY pissed at the "n****rs" and "f****ts" comments! Not only am I bi, not only are many wonderful people I've encountered in Pagan groups bi or gay, but my best friend is a half-black woman who does Paganism prouder than this asshole can ever contemplate! Her partner is black and Pagan, too, and my first coven was about half black. They have complained about feeling like they didn't belong and dealing with racism from other Pagans, but they've said less about that in recent years, thank the Gods. I'd hoped things were getting better.
I won't call this person a "fake", because I don't know, but I will call him or her a lot of other things.
I guess I have an idea how Christian FSTDT readers feel now.
Fail at Roman history. (And Judaism's as well.)
Fail at Irish paganism.
Fail at spelling. (Not that I'm surprised, though...)
Also, a brief look at the link provided allowed me to notice that the blogger wrote that he/she was not Jew. So, in other words, pretty much everything in there is WRONG. YOU LOSE!
As a Pagan, one of my best friends is a Jew. Another is Muslim and I have Christian friends. So fuck you.
And while I may not follow this person's Pagan path, I apologise to all others on behalf of fellow pagans who would also find this abhroable.
I have a funny feeling that the Mor Rigan would not give a toss about the Jews one way or the other. They did not enter into her world-view, assuming she existed/exists. She was/is of the Irish pantheon, and Ireland was never part of the Roman world until long after Constantine. Indeed, its sustantive contact with Rome came about mainly through Christianitym and then only when the Empire in the west was about to collapse.
The sentiments being expressed in the Mor Rigan's name, therefore, are at best anachronistic. I suspect that the true pagan deity of Anonymous is probably someone like Hermann, or Adolf, or Heinrich or, at a remove, Freya or Wotan.
There is perhaps a case for inluding this under RSTDT, I would think.
I have a funny feeling that the Mor Rigan would not give a toss about the Jews one way or the other. They did not enter into her world-view, assuming she existed/exists. She was/is of the Irish pantheon, and Ireland was never part of the Roman world until long after Constantine. Indeed, its sustantive contact with Rome came about mainly through Christianitym and then only when the Empire in the west was about to collapse.
The sentiments being expressed in the Mor Rigan's name, therefore, are at best anachronistic. I suspect that the true pagan deity of Anonymous is probably someone like Hermann, or Adolf, or Heinrich or, at a remove, Freya or Wotan.
There is perhaps a case for inluding this under RSTDT, I would think.
Happy equinox!
I'm trimming my winter beard for the occasion.
BTW, does anyone know the name of the god of cobblestones? He needs to visit this n00b, upside the head.
Pagan?
With the interweb?
Epic fail.
@#926294
Porky Pine
It was King Josiah who forced them into a monotheistic religion.
No he didn't. He may have forced them 'back' into one, but monotheism was already known. It had just been neglected/abandoned.
More like this! What a refreshing break from RR! (OK, I don't have my hopes up, but still...)
Oh, and my cat is named Morrigan, and is completely worthy of her own religion. I'll be taking your donations at the door.
And this people, is a rare glimpse of the Pagan trifecta.
Enjoy it, they don't come around very often.
thats why i serve morrigan. there is no way you can soften her, and turn her into the joke that you have turned the rest of the old gods into
Despite pagans apparently being able to redefine gods to match the current fashion without any divine repercussion, you don't actually seem to be denying their existence, even though such a property should make it painfully obvious that they're all made up.
You assert that your particular favoured god (a suspect concept in itself - mortals choosing which gods to bestow their favour on? Are you sure you haven't got that backwards?) is unchangeable, but you still seem to count her among the list of all the other changeable ones, so why should she be any more real than them?
ND : And let's not forget All Hallows Day!
Unfortunately, the Catholics weren't successful in Christianizing samhain like they were with Sol Invictus and Oester, which is why modern Christian Fundies think Halloween is a satanic holiday.
Word of advice for you Mr Anonymous, atheists are the ones you really need to castigate. I think you'll find that we are worse than filthy jew ancestors and filthy judeo-pigs. Still, not bad, pretty lolsome.
Jews wanted Christianity enforced?
Of course. Your logic is akin to a god, completely unrelated to reality.
[David Attenbrough voice] Here folks, we have the elusive pagan fundie asshole. A minor species of asshole, since the larger ones tend to dominate it. It is curious how this species resents and yet mimicks the behavior of the more vocal Christianid Fundius and the Islamidian Extremus . More after the break.
Guh. People wonder why I'm an atheist.
"you can't soften the morrigan!"
Wanna bet? Google "Wiccan Wade." Or crack open a Silver Ravenwolf book. Or, shit, just take a walk down the Neopagan/New Age aisle in any bookstore.
I guess I have an idea how Christian FSTDT readers feel now. I stopped listening to the establishment years ago. Makes things a lot easier when you see if from the outside.
Pagan fundie. I think I've seen everything now. I haven't seen a Buddhist fundie post on here. If anyone could point me in that direction, my personal fundie mission would be complete! :)
" the first time i heard your name i knew you were one of these blasphemous hippie idiots trying to destroy paganism and turn it into some pacifist sterile PC bullshit."
As opposed to you who is trying to destroy paganism and turn into some racist bullshit?
"and you jews are really arrogant nowdays. "
Thats a really shiny mirror you have their.
"ANY pagan who knows history should hate jews."
I don't know much about pagans, but last time I checked it was a peaceful religion.
"it was the jews who bribed constantine to enforce christianity"
No they didn't. You know nothing about history, or your own own religion.
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Yes, Morrigan is awesome.
On another note, you're a racist, homophobic prick. Die in a fire, please.
Funny, I would have thought extreme bigotry and neopaganism weren't terribly compatible... then again, there are a few Asatru out there who are Nazis. (I'm pretty sure most Asatru want nothing to do with them though.)
You don't like Christians, yet you share their historical hatred of Jews?
I bet you have poster with a large Othala rune on it.
Oh, no. One of these. How embarrassing. I mean, I don't like when people try to "Christianize" Pagan beliefs to make them more palatable to the Christian majority, but adopting things from Christianity (like the term "church", which was apparently this guy's complaint) shouldn't be frowned upon, especially considering all that Christianity borrowed from Paganism. It's religious evolution.
We've always had Pagan fudies - I always warn people who are looking into Paganism for the first time to be wary of them - but it hurts my idiot meter when I see them come out of the woodwork to attack someone else. Most of them are good enough to only show their fundiness when someone talks to them first.
And there's nothing wrong with Christian witches! They can still believe in Christ as their savior and practice magic. Christian mysticism is not unheard of!
Sorry for rambling! Brightest blessings.
I'm 1/4 Jewish, pagan, and a devotee of the Morrigan as well.
So, please, politely STFU and stop making those of us with a lick of fucking sense look bad.
Thank you.
P.S. Die in a fire. :)
I read this, re-read it to make sure, and then yelled through to the living room. What did I say?
"Mum, mum, come quick! It's an ACTUALY PAGAN FUNDIE! And he's yelling at a CHRISTIAN FUNDIE!"
I know that this is like three months old but:
Mister Spak said:
"Fundie vs fundie."
Not really, because there's only one fundie here. Religious != fundie. I'm non-religious, and I think organized religion is actually one of the most potentially dangerous inventions of mankind, but even I wouldn't go so far as to call any religious person a fundie.
Religion can inspire people to greatness and enrich their lives.
In theory.
I've just never seen one that does...but I think people should just do what makes them happy. Live and let live.
My first thought, "Which kind of Pagan are you? Lithuanian Pagan? Celtic Pagan? Germanic Pagan? Japanese Pagan? Chinese Pagan? Roman/Greek Pagan? Egyptian Pagan? Norse Pagan etc. etc. etc."
What the people who claim to be Pagan don't seem to understand is that each version of Pagan is more radically different than the Monotheistic faiths, and you can't just say, "I'm Pagan!" LEARN ABOUT THE RELIGION BEFORE YOU CLAIM TO BE A PART OF IT!
You know, as an Atheist, I probably shouldn't try to defend a deity, but I really feel poor Morrigan derserves better worshippers than this. I mean, I love Celtic Mythology, and she wasn't that bad a deity.
Imagine going from being a bad-ass war goddess to having to be the patron of this little shit. It must suck to be a pagan deity in the twentyfirst century.
I thought all the racist pagans were Germanic (with some Slavic and Greek racist pagans in those countries).
I just can't take a racist Celtic neopagan seriously. It reminds me too much of harmless neopagan stuff like Wicca.
Go hang out with WotansKrieger.
So, you don't have half a brain then, as you gave him/her quite a lot of second thoughts?
Please learn capitalization and genitive markers.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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