4 billion years? How does one even contemplate the enormity of that kind of made up on the fly assertion let alone come close to proving it? I don't think the people who say this shit even appreciate the nearly infinite(might as well be) amount of time 4 billion years actually is. Might as well say any number at that point, 444 gosh-zillion. If this is the kind of total made up shit scientists throw around they might as well be children babbling funny sayings to Allen Fundt. Everyone bags on YECers and then doesn't equally laugh at the OECers or whatever they wanna be called or even just 'scientists' who stick a swollen thumb up their ass and sniff it to determine the flavor of the month.
I'd prefer it if they had just an ounce of humility and said a real long time. As it is they come across as having the common sense of a common idiot but it works because peer pressure is 4 billion years old.
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7 billion people on the planet ?
Might as well say any number at that point, 444 gosh-zillion people.
Oh, humility, right. Uh, there's a real lot of people.
Another tedious example of the "I DON'T UNDERSTAND SCIENCE THEREFORE THEY ARE WRONG!" syndrome.
If fuckwit has a problem with 4 billion being too large a number, can i be the first to tell him that he has approximately 60 trillion molecules in his body (assuming he is close to average, which might be the pinnacle of his life), which is far too big a number, so he definitely can't exist?
...'scientists' who stick a swollen thumb up their ass and sniff it to determine the flavor of the month.
Presumably as opposed to real scientists who determine the age of the earth by summing up all the 'begats' in a book of bronze age folk-tales.
Wahhh, four billion is too big a number for my tiny brain to understand, therefore anything using that number is fake!
But god damn it, don't you dare suggest that billionaires be taxed at higher rates, because a few billion is barely enough to live off of!
Last I checked, it's not "total made up shit".
There is EVIDENCE for it.
You want to talk about "total made up shit", let's discuss your bible.
6,000 years? How does one even contemplate the stupidity of that kind of made up on the fly assertion let alone come close to proving it? I don't think the people who say this shit even appreciate just how stupid their claim actually is. Everyone laughs at YECers because to believe what they claim, you need to ignore just about every field in modern science. If this is the kind of total made up shit YECers throw around they might as well be children babbling funny sayings to Allen Fundt or even just idiots who stick a swollen thumb up their ass and sniff it to determine the flavor of the month.
I'd prefer it if they had just an ounce of intelligence and examined the scientific evidence. As it is they come across as having the common sense of a common idiot but it works because peer pressure in church says 6,000 years.
Of course the fact that the number is derived from the physical evidence might be something to consider.
Oh wow, I just realized, we better not tell him the age of the universe.
Saying the number was "made up on the fly" over and over again isn't going to make the assertion true.
"I'd prefer it if they had just an ounce of humility and said a real long time."
That wouldn't be humility. That would be pretending that you don't know the things you know in order to avoid making stupid people feel uncomfortable in their willful ignorance. Luckily those of us fortunate enough to live in the civilized world don't have to pander to you idiots now that you're no longer allowed to kill us for pointing out the many, many ways you're wrong on any given subject.
To be more precise, 4.54 billion years, give or take one percent, as confirmed by radiometric dating, meteorites and helioseismology.
"4 billion years? How does one even contemplate the enormity of that kind of made up on the fly assertion let alone come close to proving it?"
4 billion years is nothing. "Eternity". That's what you Christards claim to have access to, eternal life.
Hopefully just a Poe.
@Mythbuster43 and RW2
Unfortunately, this guy is no Poe. He has been a regular poster on Where Liberty Dwells and Free Conservatives before that for many years.
Here is another one of his "I can't understand their reasoning so those stoopy-head scientists must just be making it all up" posts.
http://libertydwells.com/showthread.php?15385-Why-do-YOU-believe-in-God&p=143587#post143587
The think I love about this one is that he is trying to explain how all those dumb scientists are confused about quantum physics, but then shows that he doesn't even understand high school level probability.
"Because your vision sucks, you can make up as many of the letters you want to, or the probability of what they might be at any one time using 26 divided by the number of chances you have to guess."
Priceless.
I don't think the people who say this shit even appreciate the nearly infinite(might as well be) amount of money 4 billion Dollars actually is.
And yet the US is 17 TRILLION Dollars in debt... and trust me, people can appreciate just how much that is. Of course, you can turn around and say they're just making this shit up, but then you lose a way to attack Obama... your choice.
4 billion seconds ago it was 1887 and Michalson and Morely were just publishing some troublesome observations on the speed of light.
4 billion minutes ago it was c5600 BC, the Sahara dessert was just beginning to be formed and Egypt was discovering agriculture.
4 billion hours ago it was c455,000 BC and our Paleolithic ancestors had only redimentary control over fire.
4 billion days ago it was around 11 MYA, maize acquires many of its modern characteristics by the accidental duplication of it's genome.
4 billion weeks ago dinosaurs ruled the Earth.
Comment number two nailed it. Your inability to not comprehend it does not make it untrue.
"I don't think the people who say this shit even appreciate the nearly infinite(might as well be) amount of time 4 billion years actually is."
Yep, nearly infinite, though you are off by about an infinity.
Wyatt, don't worry your tiny mind about it. Try counting your toes like this, one, two, lots, many. Now imagine you had lots of feet and you had to count all your toes. You'd be doing one, two, lots, many, lots of of times. Now imagine that number of trolls counting their toes. All of a sudden 4 billion seems logical etc.
When you want to go to sleep do you count the number of dismal gloops you hear under your dank bridge. I bet you're snoring way before you get to 4 billion, probably by the time you get to lots.
Mr. Junker, stop flopping around, spraying spittle; you act like a spastic pollock out of water. For your information, Earth is actually 4.54 billion years old, with an error margin of 50 million years; we know this thanks to radiometric age dating, lunar samples, and the analysis of uranium and zircon.
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The universe is about 14.5 billion years give or take unless someone really doesnt understand it, which is quite possible.
If I want to make a dumb joke, I can say that my dad is eleventy-jillion years old or that the US debt is somewhere between fliptillion and dipitty dootillion dollars, and in doing so I can either make a silly exaggeration or be a vague jackass, and you'll hear others make similar remarks, but scientific study doesn't use pop culture satirical terms or arbitrary figures. It's exacting to a degree that's hard to even imagine. Everyone would do well to keep this in mind and to remember that a 4.5 billion-year-long planetary timescale is no fucking joke. If Wyatt Junk-for-brains wants the evidential support for geologic fact, he can get his ass off Where Libert Dwells and can take the god damn initiative to study up on it.
It is hard to contemplate the enormity of 4 billion years, sure. That doesn't make it wrong. Like others have said; we’re about 7 billion people on this Earth. We don’t just say that we are “really many people”.
Everyone bags on YECers because they are wilfully ignorant and refuse to acknowledge the evidence. We don't laugh at OECers because they do acknowledge the evidence.
It's "a REALLY long time", stupid. As it is, they come across as being thorough in their research, unlike you who are satisfied with "Goddidit".
Where Liberty Dwells has provided me with many a chortle, sometimes a 'yeuch', and unfortunately, too often, a "You cannot be serious" response. The madness of Doctor Doom, the rabid and tenacious holding of antediluvian opinions and mind sets - But WYatt?
Wyatt, are you reading this - you and your ludicrous avatar - you *are* a troll, aren't you?
"4 billion minutes ago it was c5600 BC, the Sahara dessert was just beginning to be formed"
That's one HUGE dessert! Probably why it hasn't been eaten yet!
This is part of their ultimate goal in home-schooling. It won't just be evolution they remove, it'll be accumulated history and higher maths. This is one of many attempts from his ilk to pretend large numbers, like Billions, aren't even possible or aren't within our understanding, or meant to be or SHOULDN'T be.
At best they want a population mostly of uneducated simpletons and religion has been at the forefront of that agenda for a long long time.
"4 billion years? How does one even contemplate the enormity of that kind of made up on the fly assertion let alone come close to proving it?"
By measuring things and calculating things. Not by sticking your thumb up your ass and deciding if that's todays bible verse.
@Malingspann : "That's one HUGE dessert! Probably why it hasn't been eaten yet!"
I would blame autocorrect, except I turned that $#!% off ages ago just because it did stupid crap like this.
:-(
Impressive display of ignorance, Wyatt.
I'm sure if you actually met a scientist, they would tell you it was "a real long time" to try and impart the value of knowledge to you. But that "real long time" happens to be 4.5 billion years.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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