Survivors of the Abortion Holocaust #fundie

Survivors of the Abortion Holocaust #fundie aprolifechristmascarol.com

[This is from a guide to "sidewalk counselors" attempting to persuade patients not to have abortions.]

- If she won't stop: Get literature into her hands. Don't ask if she wants it, just offer. Make sure the graphic signs are visible as she walks inside.

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- Continue the conversation as long as possible: "Abortion isn't safe", "I'm here because I care about you", "They only want your money", "Please don't kill your baby", "This will haunt you the rest of your life", "Look at how perfect these tiny feet are," or "You can see that this baby is a boy."

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- Do not ignore the husband or boyfriend: Often he is the key to turning her around. Include him in the conversation and explain his responsibilities as the man of the family. Make him an ally, if possible. If you can convince him, frequently the woman will gladly follow. Appeal to his pride as a man. Remind him that it is his child too.

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- If a woman decides to enter the clinic anyway: Keep talking until the door closes behind her. You never know if those last words will be the ones to prick her heart and cause her to come out. Pray for her once she is inside that God would convict her and help her to change her mind. If undercover work has revealed that women can still hear when inside, continue preaching the truth. Speak to a friend that has brought her and ask that person to go in and bring her out. He or she brought her to the mill and now shares part of the responsibility of trying to change her mind. Use them to help you, if you can.

- You must be aggressive: You are the last line of defense of the unborn child. Do not worry about hurting someone's feelings. You can apologize later. Your popularity is not worth a child's life. Remember that the people entering the abortion mill are on their way to kill their baby. They need to feel bad about that. Be sensitive to the situation, but do all that you can to save the child's life.

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"Abortion isn't safe", neither is pregnancy, neither is driving a car, neither is anything else that we ever do. But keeping it legal means professionals who do the job keep it as safe as possible, rather than the back ally professionals who arise when that is the only option
"I'm here because I care about you", no you care about the clump of cells growing inside her more than the woman going through emotional stress right now
"They only want your money",
Then please, start picketing every business out there, better get to work, there are lots out there
"Please don't kill your baby", if it was a baby this would be justified, but it is not, (and I will even give you the benefit of the doubt by adding) yet.
"This will haunt you the rest of your life", emotional choices often do. Bringing up a child when you are not ready can do that as well for two people
"Look at how perfect these tiny feet are,"
Wait, the pictures that are doctored and not representable of a fetus at all?
"You can see that this baby is a boy." See previous point

"Do not ignore the husband or boyfriend" Surprisingly many of the women who show up do not have one, or at least not one anymore after they found out she was pregnant

old comment by Anon-e-moose

@Jewnior Spokesman

"This shit tends not to happen in the UK, because all of that is an ASBO, right there."

Also Section 5 of the Public Order Act ensures that a UK equivalent of the WBC will never be allowed to exist here.

Anti-fundie 'Persecution' legislation is good. Forced Political Correctness WORKS. [/Gordon Gekko]

Nope, no 'Sidewalk Counellors', nor abortion doctor shootings/clinic bombings here [/Dunblane]. Nor any subhuman Fred/Shirley Phelps wannabes, nor any Batscat Shelly-a-likes in our Parliament, nosiree. I think that in itself destroys any & all detractors/critics' (you know who you are) 'arguments', who dare lord your superior 'Freedom' over the UK. At least we in the UK are free from subhuman 'pro-Lifers', any 'pro-Lifer'-suporters who are worse-than Al-Qaeda, insinuating themselves into our political system, and what are basically the ultimate trolls who use your 'Freedom' to scam money from you, the US taxpayer, via the US Constitution - and thus you - they supposedly 'hate'.

...so a few subhumans aren't allowed to exist here in my country. Problem? Seems there's a lot here who don't, nor ever will have one with that fact.

old comment by Stonespiral

I remember a video of a father screaming at a group of harpies trying to do these very things to his wife. He was *devastated* they were getting an abortion, but they had found out their child would be born with serious organ and spine deformities. It wouldn't survive long after birth.

They *wanted* that baby, but had decided to end the pregnancy and try again later rather than extend the torture of knowing their baby would die longer than necessary.

He kept telling them these things and they very timidly kept parroting their talking points as if they would suddenly make sense in the face of such a tragedy.

I don't know what happened to that man and his wife, but I hope they got their baby. And I hope those women were involved in traffic accidents.

old comment by Deep Search

Sweet fucking Jesus, these fucking monsters. Of course they have no issues with lying, harassment, bullying, emotionally abusing women, and being sexist, conniving sick psychopaths. They do realize that the stigma of abortion that the pro-lying crowd cultivates is what will "haunt" a woman right? Oh, of course they don't...

An unwanted pregnancy is traumatic for a woman to endure, end of story. But these pinheads can't even comprehend that a woman may have wanted to have a baby and she is unable to for medical reasons, hence them seeking an abortion. No empathy or compassion from the pro-liar crowd. If they showed one shred of human decency during their "picketing" I'd fall over dead from shock...

old comment by Swede

Translation: "Make sure you harass the women as much as you can".

Pregnancy and childbirth is much, much less safe than a mere abortion. You don't care about her one iota, asshole, you only care for the barely visible speck in her abdomen.

One study said that many women who have had an abortion feel relief afterwards, not guilt.

At the time when most abortions are made, the embryo is virtually indistinguishable from an elephant embryo or a fish embryo. There are no "perfect tiny feet" or any sign of whether it will become a boy or a girl at that stage, as it's not completely determined yet. If the enzyme that turns an XY zygote to male is missing, it will stay female.

If you really care for unborn children, make sure that all women are able to take care of children, financially and socially. Promote raised minimum wages and more day-care centers. Go after dead-beat dads who don't take their responsibility seriously. THAT way you'll be able to reduce abortions significantly more efficiently than your harassment campaign.

old comment by Warren McIntosh

[This is from a guide to "sidewalk counselors" attempting to persuade fundies not to take their children to church to be christened.]

- If she won't stop: Get literature into her hands. Don't ask if she wants it, just offer. Make sure the graphic signs are visible as she walks inside.

- Continue the conversation as long as possible: "Religion isn't safe", "I'm here because I care about you", "They only want your money", "Please don't indoctrinate your baby", "This will haunt them for the rest of their life", "Look at how perfect its tiny brain is," or "You can see that this baby is a skeptic."

- Do not ignore the husband or boyfriend: Often he is the key to turning her around. Include him in the conversation and explain his responsibilities as the man of the family. Make him an ally, if possible. If you can convince him, frequently the fundie woman will gladly follow. Appeal to his pride as a man. Remind him that it is his child too.

- If a woman decides to enter the church anyway: Keep talking until the door closes behind her. You never know if those last words will be the ones to prick her heart and cause her to come out. Hope that once she is inside that reason will convince her and help her to change her mind. If undercover work has revealed that women can still hear when inside, continue yelling the truth. Speak to a friend that has brought her and ask that person to go in and bring her out. He or she brought her to the church and now shares part of the responsibility of trying to change her mind. Use them to help you, if you can.

- You must be aggressive: You are the last line of defense of the child. Do not worry about hurting someone's feelings. You can apologize later. Your popularity is not worth a child's life. Remember that the people entering the church are on their way to ruin their baby. They need to feel bad about that. Be sensitive to the situation, but do all that you can to save the child's future.