Andy Schlafly #fundie

Andy Schlafly #fundie conservapedia.com

Conservative of the Year 2013

"Duck Dynasty" family

Achievements
Gives up millions of dollars rather than cave into liberal censorship by the homosexual agenda, after the liberal media expelled a member of the family for speaking biblically.

Comments
Hard to disagree with a high ranking for how this family stands on principle, and opposes liberal censorship of free speech

59 comments

old comment by Canadiest

What did Phil Robertson give up now? You do realize they're under contract and therefor even if he had ACTUALLY been removed from the show he'd still be paid.

These fuckers don't make the show you idiots, they perform (if you can call it that even) and A&Es producers decide what makes it to screen. The "contraversy" wasn't what he said on the show even, it was shit he said elsewhere.

The real story here is the right-wing assertion that they can't be criticised for what they say, for right-wingers free speech ends when they're done speaking. The asshole said gays are murderous and blacks loved segregation, these are huge lies, that's the reality of it.

In the end, right-wingers rejoice, your fake bush-people with their showy religious bend about 2 minutes every episode are all back. I can't wait for the "Real' plotlines coming up, tripping off to England or Australia, because y'know they don't know how to lure and shoot ducks like a 'Mericans. Getting something of grampas restored by rick or the count or valued beyond reason by the Cajun pawn stars. Maybe Phil boy can pass some folksy wisdom on to the Honey-boo-boo clan before they eat one of their own. Lot's of "real" stuff coming up for over 7 million retards for sure.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

'Duck Dysentery'?! The only 'Reality' TV I accept are the likes of "Road Wars"

As it's Thames Valley's 'Tango Victor' Squad's officer Simon Hills would say (emphasis added): 'You do not have to say anything, but it may harm your defence if you mention, when questioned, something which you later rely on in court. Anything you do say may be given in evidence.'

What Phil Robertson said would certainly contravene Section 5 of the Public Order Act here in the UK, thus requiring his arrest by our police, such as Officer Hills, but then subhuman homophobes would hide their unjustifiable way of thinking behind their precious 1st Amendment in the US, wouldn't they? [/Westboro Baptist Church]

As per the above caution issued by our police, Andy Schaftafly, Simon Hills would conclude that with 'Do you understand...?'

...but you're reduced to using something like this, which is as contrived as WWE, to try and discredit that which you loathe & detest - Liberalism & Political Correctness - so that speaks volumes about how you & your precious Conservatism is displaying it's worse-than desperation.

old comment by Big Jilm

Louisiana is a 'right to work' state (what an Orwellian term!), so thanks to that CONservative-championed policy, A&E would have the right to fire their ass without any explanation.

(Yes, I know A&E is technically out of NYC and New York is not a right to work state, but I still find it funny.)

Seriously, though. If I got on the news and started calling Christians sister-fucking slack jaws, I'm sure it would have a potential impact on my company's brand name, hence they would be in their full right to fire me (expressing "their" free speech and all).

Now get those fake duck sex-simulators' collective cocks out of your mouth so we can understand what you're really trying to say.

old comment by Knight of Liberty

@Anon-e-moose:

My, but you are the reliable increaser of my blood pressure, aren't you? I think it's time for another lesson in why your view are bad and you should feel bad, don't you agree?

1) "What Phil Robertson said would certainly contravene Section 5 of the Public Order Act here in the UK, thus requiring his arrest by our police, such as Officer Hills, but then subhuman homophobes would hide their unjustifiable way of thinking behind their precious 1st Amendment in the US, wouldn't they? [/Westboro Baptist Church]"

I'll make my views on this statement quite clear: I thank sweet Lady Liberty that I had the good luck to be born in a country that still has some measure of free speech instead of one run by the sorts of totalitarian milksops that would pass a law like the Public Order Act. Here are just three of the more high-profile abuses of the law in the past 20 years:

http://outrage.org.uk/1995/01/gay-activists-stand-trial-over-islamic-protest/
http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2008/may/20/1 (This is the infamous case where a 15-year-old was prosecuted for referring to Scientology as a "cult".)
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/06/19/religions-are-fairy-stories-british-atheist-pledges-to-defy-police-order-to-take-down-anti-faith-window-sign/

In short, abuses of the Public Order Act are not airy-fairy hypothetical scenarios, but a very real menace to free speech. The fact that my government has, legally speaking, little choice but to let a group like the Westboro Baptist Church exist is, in my admittedly not-entirely-humble opinion, totally worthwhile if it means that peaceful protesters like the three whose stories I linked to above can make their opinions known without threat of prosecution (also, I posit that your views on free speech advocates and the WBC's views on gays have more to do with one another than you may like to admit).

old comment by Knight of Liberty

2) "[Y]ou're reduced to using something like this, which is as contrived as WWE[.]"

HOLD IT! What evidence do you have that this event was contrived? I'm not entirely opposed to the theory, but in the absence of conclusive evidence, I have little choice but to take these events at face value.

3) "[. . .]to try and discredit that which you loathe & detest - Liberalism & Political Correctness[. . .]"

Political correctness should be loathed and detested by all right-thinking people, for it is little more than a rebranding of cultural Marxism and, thus, a fundamental threat to classical tolerance of speech that must be met and systematically dismantled.

@pete:

Sorry, but I don't think his comments on the black people he worked with can really be called racist. He merely reported on what he had observed from them. Whether his findings are true or not is debatable, but it hardly constitutes a call for returning to Jim Crow.

@cdcdrr:

I completely agree, but how can we go about putting such a thing into pracetice? Securing such a thing legally would be tricky to do without unintended consequences, while shaming the sorts of people who like to see others fired for expressing their opinions into ceasing and desisting is a time-consuming and often quixotic process. I'd be interested in what others have to say on the matter, though.

old comment by Ignatio Popwald

@Knight of Liberty

"Political correctness should be loathed and detested by all right-thinking people, for it is little more than a rebranding of cultural Marxism"

And here I was thinking far-righters re-branded the term "Cultural Marxism" to things like "racial equality", "feminism", "drug legalization", and of course "gay rights". When by original definition, it is little more than a chapter in Marxism that focuses on non-economic factors in communist society (happiness of populace, etc). Glad you're here to tell us these things, Ser Liberty. You tit.

P.S. - And don't you go telling me that Communism is an inherently multicultural ideology. A large amount of nations that existed under communism have been racist and homophobic as hell, and it's only a semi-recent phenomenon that confused and ignorant Che Guevara shirt wearing college commies have been more accepting of it.

I'm outta ammo. Anon-E-Moose, you may fire when ready.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

@Ignatio Popwald

It certainly displays Shite of Lie-purty's desperation. [/giga-snark]

"you may fire when ready"

[/Grand Moff Tarkin]

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...oh, and as per the age-old "Star Wars" vs. "Star Trek" debates; 'Death Star vs. Borg Cube: Who would win?' ad infinitum ad nauseam. I always like to throw in this argument-annihilating (biomechanical) spanner into the geek-works:

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Shadowships. [/"Babylon 5"] [/Species 8472] >:D

Shite of Lie-purty: 'What do you want?' [/Mr. Morden] X3

Indeed, 'Understanding is a three-edged sword' [/Kosh]. If SoL-p here has watched the "B5" episode "Into The Fire", then as per Troll4Life and Matthew 10:14, he'd do well to remember the significance of Sheridan realising what Kosh meant in saying that previously, and what he says to the Vorlons & Shadows, thus it's relevance to SoL-p himself.

'Why are you here?' [/Lorien]

old comment by Pule Thamex

I don't really understand much of this, it's just as well probably, however, I'd like to honour Andy's astuteness with a Biblical quote which I know supports his vital work.

Please read the following passage from Deuteronomy. (Warning, read at your own risk. Do not allow yourself to become overawed. If you're stirred to patriotism and fervid flag waving, don't blame me.)

2:33 And the LORD our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people.

2:34 And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain:

2:35 Only the cattle we took for a prey unto ourselves, and the spoil of the cities which we took.

I hope you have not overtaxed your nervous system and have retained your equilibrium. Nevertheless, a useful little addendum to Andy's spiritual work, I think you'll agree.

old comment by Knight of Liberty

@Ignatio Popwald:

Are you always this disingenuous? Drug legalization has little to nothing to do with any proper understanding of cultural Marxism, while your claim that racial equality, gay rights and feminism were "rebranded" as cultural Marxism is blatant redefinition of terms.

The base claims of these movementsthat all people, not just straight white cisgendered men, deserve basic legal protections and human decencyhave not changed in the slightest and are eminently worthy of support, but a handful of loudmouths in these movements take things much further than that, claiming that the oppression that women, non-whites and the LGBTIQ+ face is an intrinsic and intentional feature of Western culture, which is the fundamental claim of cultural Marxism.

It is this claim that underlines several problematic trends in modern Western culture, mainly the attempted redefinition of the various -isms as requiring power and not simply prejudice, the culture of "You can't say that!" (which is the primary driving force behind both stateside collegiate speech codes and international laws proscribing allegedly discriminatory speech) and the deliberate confusion of multiculturalism as acceptance of diversity and multiculturalism as a largely top-down political process.

Finally, your assertion that I would assert that communism is inherently multicultural is a red herring (no pun intended), as I labored under no such delusion; to the contrary, I posit that only Western liberal democracies are even fundamentally capable of true multiculturalism and that top-down multiculturalism actually undermines this capability.

old comment by Knight of Liberty

@Anon-e-moose:

Would it kill you not to make blatant appeals to ridicule? I realize my chosen handle may initially come off as a bit pompous, but I chose it to represent the higher standard I would conduct myself by in my online dealings. I have maintained a reasonably high tone with you, so the least you can do is return that favor to me.

Re: Babylon 5: I never did get around to watching it (I've always been more about video games & animation), but I can guarantee you this much: Species 8472 ain't got shit on anyone from Warhammer 40K, especially not some of the creepy-crawlies that dwell in the Void.

What do I want? Well, a full-time job would be nice and I'd really appreciate a new laptop and I'd be forever indebted if you could find me a D&D group and please tell me when the new Sailor Moon anime will come out if you happen to know and it'd be really great if you could get Activision Blizzard to make some new Quest for Glory games...

Why am I here? I am a staunch believer in secularism as an objective good for a modern society and scarcely think that the old religious powers can lose their sway fast enough. However, I do not always agree with the directions some people want the new world that awaits us to go in and I have no qualms about raising my dissents. I'm sorry if you view this as somehow obstructionist, but a new world is only worth anything if it ends up better than the old and I legitimately think that many of your ideas would not lead in that direction. Hopefully, we can still respect each other, even if we disagree vociferously on some hot-button topics.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

Well, if a certain person who shall remain clueless is badly done by - certainly butthurt due to - what I say here, then he'd better quote what I say here:

http://astdt.webs.com/

...or at least submit my words as a quote right here in FSTDT then, shouldn't he?! [/mega-sarcasm] [/bluff-calling]

The only one stopping him - is him. Strange that he keeps white-shiting for the right-wing, eh? Especially Homophobes.

That alone speaks more volumes about him than the British Library and the Library of Congress combined.

...oh, and

"HOLD IT! What evidence do you have that this event was contrived? I'm not entirely opposed to the theory, but in the absence of conclusive evidence, I have little choice but to take these events at face value."

http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=98684&Page=2#1624594

@Kat S.

"Just the other day I saw a picture of the Duck Dynasty guys before they got on the show. They were clean cut with a somewhat preppy look to them.

"Because they got hillbillyfied for the show, I wonder if they are speaking as a character and not necessarily as they would truly think. No, I'm not excusing the statements they made, I wonder if they are only speaking in character in order to make more money. Other entertainment celebrities feel they must constantly stay in character to what people see on tv rather than their actual selves in public."

old comment by Anon-e-moose

(Part II):

"Is Phil Robertson now a troll just saying redneck things to push the envelope, especially now since A&E really didn't do anything very punative against him?"

I love the smell of annihilated arguments in the morning. Smells like... superiority.

The 'Fly-in-the-vehicle' format of the actual TV "Road Wars", as opposed to the worse-than WWE contrivances of 'reality' TV "Duck Dysentery", "Keeping Up With The Cardassians" (Kim & co. look absolutely nothing like the aliens in "Star Trek"! [/hyper-sarcasm]) et al...? Sumo/Greco-Roman Wrestling (as per the Olympics), as opposed to the Redneck Pantomime that is WWE? My, but that's a toughie...! [/media snob]

The one fact that destroys any & all WWE wankerboys' 'arguments': if Boxing - a real competition - wasn't at least as 'entertaining', then the sport wouldn't exist today. But PPV sales are in rude health, and you should've seen the TV ratings for our boxers in the 2012 London Olympics; especially for our local lad Luke Campbell, when he won his Gold medal in such. No 'bookers', 'storylines' etc required.

Been watching the UK's/World's Strongest Man competitions on TV recently. Nope, no histrionics (the competitors, if anything, never say anything bad about the others, nay, encourage the others), 'storylines', 'kayfabe' BS or any of that: Competition in it's purest form. REAL.

Would it kill you, o steroidal muscle marys - and ADHD-afflicted rednecks - in the US, if wrestling was just as PURE a competition: absolutely real...?!

"Road Wars", "Cops With Cameras", "Brit Cops", "Street Crime UK", "Police Interceptors", "Police Camera Action". The very fact there are more than one series proves that ACTUALITY can be entertaining; more so, in fact. Reality. As opposed to Contrivance: Fakery.

Stick to Sci-Fi/Fantasy, o USA. It's what you're best at. [/"U-571"] [/media snob II]

old comment by Anon-e-moose

@Shite of Lie-purty

And the mere fact that none of those 'submissions' have been accepted & quoted here in FSTDT should tell you something.

You're not even Troll4Life-tier, when it comes to goat-molesting, and at least she gave us an intellectual challenge. MyBoastingCareer.com's Muddycuntmember/ProfessorPaedoSpice did a far better job than you (and I equally called his bluff, re. his butthurt), yet he soon fucked off, never to return - back to his own forum for trolls, 'MyBoastingCareer.com'; and even he ultimately trolled himself in doing so, in his 'attempt' to 'troll' me - so that should tell you something II.

When you can't even do your 'worst', then as per Troll4Life/Muddycuntmember (and all other trolls who have gone by the wayside)...! >:D

...still, there's always 'Atheists Say The Weirdest Crap' you can always 'submit' anything I say [b]which pains [i]you[/i] in the gluteus maximus[/b], I guess. Oh wait...! X3

old comment by NonProphet

@Anon-e-moose & Knight of Liberty:

You two, cut it out.
Moose, you know I generally like you. But you're being reactionary & needlessly antagonistic here. You & KoL can disagree without it devolving into mud-slinging & ad hominem. You're better than that, so please cut it out.

KoL, I can see why Anon-e-Moose reacted the way he did to your initial comment. You did come off as a bit caustic & supportive of Robertson's actions, which - especially for someone as understandably anti-fundie as Anon-e-moose - puts you into their camp.

Now, Moose, KoL has stated that he/she/they happens to be on our side, even if they disagree with some members' methods. So far, I haven't seen evidence otherwise.
Are you two willing to play nice & just agree to disagree?

(Why I feel compelled to moderate on others' sites, I don't know.)

old comment by Anon-e-moose

@NonProphet

Well, if SoL-p is too naive, denser-than lead, or just too stupid to realise - as per his 'claim' that I'm 'Transphobic', re. my saying that 'Sunshite Mary' is nothing more than a POE who can't even admit he's not a woman (ergo his own gender confusion), then...!

PROTIP: No matter what the production, or where, the musical "Chicago"'s character 'Mary Sunshine' is ALWAYS played by a MAN. If SoL-p can't see what Stevie Wonder can from a light-year away, then he needs to crawl out from under his stone and receive an education in Popular Culture.

SoL-p: 'Sunshite Mary' = POE. Ergo, it's open season on him, satirically, and mercilessly. Deal with it.

Andy Schlafly #fundie conservapedia.com

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