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I bet Charles Darwin never understood this: If the world could be described as truly survival-of-the-fittest, why would people collectively be stricken with the spirit of generosity in December?

Sarah Palin, New York Magazine 47 Comments [11/21/2013 4:09:18 AM]
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11/21/2013 4:36:39 AM

Hal Jordan

Apparently we aren't allowed to be nice without dying.

11/21/2013 4:44:07 AM

Nomen Nescio

i bet sarah palin never read a word Darwin wrote.

11/21/2013 4:50:19 AM

Night Jaguar

No, Sarah. Christmas does NOT disprove evolution.

11/21/2013 5:07:22 AM


Nomen Nescio,

The last two words of your post are superfluous!

11/21/2013 5:11:37 AM


And was it her who could have been elected vice-president in 2008?

11/21/2013 5:15:16 AM


Goes back to sun worshipers in the Roman Empire.

11/21/2013 5:15:53 AM



11/21/2013 5:35:14 AM

Because the corporate Media tells them to buy expensive gifts.

11/21/2013 5:43:15 AM


Check Dawkins. Generosity is also an ingrained behaviour, beneficial to the species and thus selected.

11/21/2013 6:05:55 AM

wat I dont even

11/21/2013 6:09:40 AM


Since we are the fittest, we can afford to be nice without worrying about surviving, it's not gonna be like

Bear 1: joe did you see that? The humans have been buying things for each other rather than themselves

Bear 2: I saw it too beo, ALL BEARS ATTAAAAAAACK!

And then the great bear uprising wipes out all the humans and the societies of earth are taken over by bears.

Thats not gonna happen because you decide to be kind.

11/21/2013 6:16:08 AM


Survival of the most adaptable.

I'd say that we are stricken with the spirit of shopping mania, not generosity. Giving because it's expected of you is hardly generosity, it's just herd mentality.

Can you explain why it happens in December? Jesus was born during the spring.

11/21/2013 6:16:08 AM


And that from the woman who recently said she is glad about the commercialization of Chrismas...

11/21/2013 6:20:03 AM

Mister Spak

Charles Darwin explained this in his famous book. I bet you never read it.

11/21/2013 6:46:10 AM

Doubting Thomas

Um, what? In what context does this even make sense? Why is she still getting paid to talk?

11/21/2013 6:46:40 AM


> why would people collectively be stricken with the spirit of generosity in December

Because the people who benefit from it manipulate the rest. They exploit our tribe-loving instinct for their own gain.

Can't get much more survival-of-the-fittest than that.

11/21/2013 6:57:29 AM

Hasan Prishtina

Have you not noticed, Half-Governor, that people who are warm and generous are often popular as well? What might popularity bring?

11/21/2013 7:21:34 AM

Still dumb as a post I see.

11/21/2013 7:23:51 AM


I'll save Sarah from having to actually pick up the book of the long-dead scientist she is engaged in badmouthing on a daily basis. Social bonding is a big part of why humanity was fit, and why we DID survive. Christmas is hardly alone in all of the various ways we engage in this, but it is part of it on some level.

The other levels are largely there for the purposes of extracting wealth from people by establishing must-do gifts to maintain your social standing. Like most other holidays.

11/21/2013 7:38:52 AM


See, you are confusing the biological process of survival of the fittest (or "natural selection") with the idea of "social darwinism", which Darwin himself rejected. In fact, caring for the poor, helping others and working together might be seen as a survival characteristic for our species.

You ignorant moron.

11/21/2013 7:54:12 AM


According to professors of Theology - who thus know more about your 'beliefs' than you do - Jesus (if he existed [/Spartan Laconic Wit]) was born in September.

Christmas is merely the stealing of the pagan Winter Solstice Festival (just as Easter is pagan Eostre) by the early Christian church.

Y'know Ms. FAILin, Christmas is celebrated in Japan (particularly Xmas Eve; it's seen as a romantic time for couples)? Explain, please, if that is a mainly Shinto/Zen Buddhist country...?

Winter Solstice is a time of celebration of life - even in the depths of nature going into 'stasis' in the cold & darker months - and sharing, especially by Wiccans/Neo-Paganists. We Atheists are helping in their re-appropriating what was taken from them. And we celebrate Xmas, because we can.

I bet that really pisses you off! [/Clarence Boddicker]


"And was it her who could have been elected vice-president in 2008?"

No wonder Obama was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize soon afterwards. [/'The Football']

11/21/2013 8:02:27 AM

Dr. Shrinker

Being an educated Englishman, Darwin certainly knew about the efforts of the Puritans to outlaw the celebration of Christmas. It seems that Darwin knew more about the so-called war-on-Christmas than you do Sarah.

Among other things.

11/21/2013 8:22:08 AM


Because our species evolved in groups so we depend on each other for survival? It only makes sense that during a time of need, like the middle of winter, that we would come together and make sure all our community can still eat.

Also as agriculture became a thing, we were even more fixated on the sun than ever before. When it went away our ancestors knew they couldn't grow anything very well. So on the shortest day, the winter solstice they would celebrate because that meant the sun would start to come back.

11/21/2013 9:18:35 AM

rubber chicken

If Christianity is so great, why would people collectively be stricken with the spirit of generosity only in December ?

11/21/2013 9:35:25 AM

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