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Is the scientific method real?

How can something use it's own process to prove it's own process?
How can science prove logic?Or mathematics?
At least I can feel God, But I'm starting not to believe in this whole science thing. Can anyone prove these things to me

Cody, Yahoo Answers 77 Comments [2/25/2010 3:41:38 PM]
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*double facepaw*


2/25/2010 3:42:29 PM


That there's a special kind of stupid.

2/25/2010 3:48:53 PM


2/25/2010 3:49:45 PM

So 2+2 only equal four not because they do, but because god says so? What?

2/25/2010 3:49:53 PM


"Can anyone prove these things to me"

Radios, televisions, computers, telephones, fridges, cars, toasters, microwaves, clocks, batteries, carbon monoxide detectors, spray cans, nuclear reactors, robots, polymerase chain reaction machines, electricity, gas and water infrastructures. Need I go on?

2/25/2010 3:50:44 PM


One of the great paradoxes of logic is that the only way to meaningfully prove or disproof the utility of logic would be to use logic, but this only serves to highlight how very important logic is. We can see that logic and science are useful because of the results that they yield.

2/25/2010 3:56:11 PM


I can prove that you're a moron.

2/25/2010 3:57:28 PM

2/25/2010 4:02:49 PM


What is this, I don't even.

2/25/2010 4:04:33 PM

what is this i don't even

2/25/2010 4:04:43 PM


Tell me a good reason to not apply maintenance by kinetic agitation to your cranium.

2/25/2010 4:13:54 PM

preacher's kid

I'm starting to not believe in this whole Cody thing. Can you prove yourself to me?

2/25/2010 4:15:45 PM

David B.

"Can anyone prove these things to me"

Start here.

When you've completed that, move on to volumes 2 and 3.

2/25/2010 4:15:58 PM


I can prove that your grammar sucks moose cock.

2/25/2010 4:20:19 PM


I hope this is PoE, I really do because this level of pure stupid should only exist in urban legend. Anyway, the simplest and most effective way to demonstrate that science is trustworthy is that it is applicable in real life and gives you repeatable and reliable results. It makes accurate predictions that far exceed chance alone (what we'd see if science was just another system that doesn't really work is that it's predictions are as accurate as chance; kind of like the various prophecies and prayer).

In short, science: it works, bitches!

2/25/2010 4:20:39 PM

I can feel the scientific method. For you, that is apparently enough.

2/25/2010 4:30:50 PM

Doubting Thomas

I didn't know the scientific method proved itself. It is not a conclusion. It's a method to draw the best conclusion available.

But all this anti-science talk from the fundies really worries me. I'm worried that anyone could be so willfully stupid.

2/25/2010 4:38:00 PM

Doctor Whom

The scientific method works. Even the Bible says that you shall know every tree by its fruits.

Your turn. How can you use your supposed ability to feel God to prove that what you're feeling is God?

2/25/2010 4:45:45 PM


I suppose it's possible that Cody never had a good teacher but that's no excuse for his failure to learn.

2/25/2010 4:55:37 PM


Since science doesn't work, I'm sure you would be happy to be a dummy in a ballistics demo.

2/25/2010 5:05:48 PM

This is probably a poe, but okay! Step 1: take any object that you can lift without any strain and raise it to about chest-height. Step 2: Let go of the object. Congratulations! The object falling to the ground is proof of the force of gravity. The fact that you don't need to tie yourself to the ground to prevent yourself from floating into space is further proof of this force.

2/25/2010 5:05:52 PM

Thinking Allowed

2/25/2010 5:09:44 PM

Dr. Shrinker

I thought he was a POE until I saw that her was a venomfangx fan. Now I'm not so sure.

2/25/2010 5:10:26 PM


Cody, the scientific method isn't justified by itself; it's justified both by philosophical (non-empirical) reasoning and by the simple fact that it has been extremely successful throughout the history of human civilization.


Your link is broken. I tried adding it myself, but I got the same error.

@David B:

An excellent book, but it only covers one of the three areas Cody mentioned: mathematics. Eventually it all just comes down to an inherent understanding that reasoning works. I could say "faith" in that understanding, but faith tends to inspire devotion beyond question, and there's no reason you can't--or shouldn't--question the idea of logic. ...At some point in this paragraph I switched back to talking to Cody...

...so yeah, logic. It works and stuff.

(Also, there's the very obvious point that most justifications for the Bible are themselves circular, with the exception of appeals to archaeology which are theoretically valid but turn out to be epic failz.)

(And one last thing: learn to punctuate. "It's" means "it is.")

2/25/2010 5:19:24 PM


"How can something use it's own process to prove it's own process?"

More like : have stringant, logical, testable limitations on final decisions. What makes it a Theory is not that it's a guess but that it's the best answer with available data to offer.

"How can science prove logic?"

Maybe cause Science has a logical bias, It's for it, to an irritating level. Mr Spock wasn't wrong, know-it-alls piss people off.

"Or mathematics?"

Mathematics doesn't need science to prove it. It proves itself by always working. Science uses mathematics because it always works.

"At least I can feel God"

Really? Leave out.

"But I'm starting not to believe in this whole science thing."

Like you ever did

"Can anyone prove these things to me"

Yeah, but we'd have to use scientific evidence and accomplishments and you've decided that's untrustworthy.

Can't see the Fundie in this. Out of context. Could be a transexual Atheist plumber for all it get's fundie

2/25/2010 5:19:52 PM

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