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The way I have heard it, is that Dinosaurs (as reptiles) grow throughout their entire lives. And before the flood, the atmosphere had like 2x the oxygen, and science has shown that most extremely old fossils/bugs that have been found in sap had 2x the oxygen and lived alot longer. (more than 2x longer) Therefore, dinosaurs used to live really long, and therefore grew really big.

There have been tons and tons of finds of smaller dinosaurs, but most of the time they're put to the side for the big ones. So, some dinosaurs died in the flood, and others lived, but could not grow to be as large, in which case became similiar/the same as the reptiles we see today.

Also, reptiles as large as some prehistoric dinosaurs have been found in more recent days too, there was a dinosaur pulled out of the ocean and they have pictures of it, and a video, and it was still breathing, but had been injured or something and the people on the boat through it back out and kept some samples... will try to find article.

EDIT: If you want to bring Noah into this... he probably would've taken younger (~ smaller) animals on the ark.

EDIT: Found article: http://www.weirdasianews.com/2007/01/24/first-living-dinosaur-found-in-japan/

EDIT: http://www.creationinstruction.org/index.php

Minimus, World of Warcraft official forums 28 Comments [12/9/2007 3:09:17 PM]
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agentCDE

The way I heard it OXYGEN DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY. GOODNIGHT.

12/9/2007 3:10:00 PM

Brainy

Exactly where did you hear this? It clearly wasn't from anyone who knows anything. Citations from bullshit creationist sites lend you no credibility.

12/9/2007 3:13:50 PM



My conclusion, you don't understand what you read.

12/9/2007 3:21:44 PM

Blackvoice

ô_õ?

12/9/2007 3:45:10 PM

NotMe

While the shark article is true it proves nothing. So what if there is a really old species of shark around? All it means is that they didn't have a lot of reason to change over time. They kept their niche in nature and they stayed in it. The offspring that did evolve different qualities left that niche. Also: even if the species is millions of years old, there is no way that it is exactly the same as back then. Just mostly the same, like humans who still resemble some very old fossils dug up, but are still different in some minor ways that allowed for big differences in how we lived.

12/9/2007 3:48:05 PM

anevilmeme

Yawn!

12/9/2007 4:07:26 PM

werewolf

It's a shark, minimouse. It's not a reptile or a dinosaur.

Your other link is just silly.

So, what proof do you offer for your statements?

12/9/2007 4:23:09 PM

szena

Haven't you guys heard that people who are on oxygen in a hospital start to grow again? Being on pure oxygen can make you grow six inches or more.

Of course the atheist medical establishment is hushing it up.

12/9/2007 5:42:54 PM

BreeStar

A shark =/= a dinosaur. Go back to Ironforge, as you clearly are not smart enough to be a Horde player.

12/9/2007 5:50:45 PM

Whiteshark

It was a decompsed shark carcass moron. It was also surely not breathing.

12/9/2007 5:58:54 PM

Detrs

No.

12/9/2007 6:18:07 PM

Brian X

To a certain extent he's actually right about the oxygen -- the higher oxygen content in the Carboniferous era is the best guess as to why the insects were so big then. Problem is that a sudden drop in the atmospheric oxygen content would have severely inconvenienced almost everything on Earth, especially the more intelligent ones that rely on oxygen to power their overdeveloped brains. Like, say, the East African Plains Ape.

12/9/2007 7:09:03 PM

Old Viking

Got as far as "before the flood ..."

12/9/2007 7:51:43 PM

Osiris

The way I have heard it, is that Dinosaurs (as reptiles) grow throughout their entire lives.
Then what you've heard is wrong. Most reptiles reach a point in their lives where they simply stop growing. Dinosaurs included. The only dinosaurs that ever kept on growing were the massive sauropods.

And before the flood, the atmosphere had like 2x the oxygen, and science has shown that most extremely old fossils/bugs that have been found in sap had 2x the oxygen and lived alot longer. (more than 2x longer) Therefore, dinosaurs used to live really long, and therefore grew really big.
Why? Why before the Flood was the environment so radically different? Creationists have never been able to sufficiently explain this and the only explanations they do have are ridiculous.

Also, reptiles as large as some prehistoric dinosaurs have been found in more recent days too, there was a dinosaur pulled out of the ocean and they have pictures of it, and a video, and it was still breathing, but had been injured or something and the people on the boat through it back out and kept some samples... will try to find article.
First of all a pleasiosaur is not a dinosaur okay. Dinosaurs only lived on land. Secondly what you found was a rotting Basking Shark whose massive jaw had fallen off and all that was left was the skull.

12/9/2007 7:58:41 PM

FMG

Actually there are large debates on the whole "dinosaurs are reptiles" thing. Quite a few of them seem to be fast moving. I.e Probably warm blooded. Making them a lot lot more "feasible". Cold blooded animals tend to be small because its hard to maintain their body size. Hence there are few really big cold blooded animals with most being insect sizes. And cold blooded animals have problems in "hot places too". Above 40 degrees and you start damaging proteins.

The shark is probably a new species of shark. Sharks are very conservative in their evolutionary history. Because they are frankly "amazing" at what they do. They are generally the "best" at doing a particular thing combining power, speed and the ability to find prey working on pure instinct. They don't need anything else. Its a "dinosaur" shark. I.e like the Coelocanth its very old... Dinosaurs is the name given to a particular race of "reptiles that have temperature control" making them the bridge to mammals and birds at various points of their lifespans.

Most creationists fail to realise a lot of things...

1. There are tonnes of animals in this world.
2. There are so many different species of animals.
3. You would need a crazy amount of food.
4. All said animals would die of inbreeding pretty quickly
5. How many remember the "correct numbers of animals" the bible mentioned Noah took? (7 for clean animals and 2 for unclean ones... so two dogs but seven sheep)

12/9/2007 8:15:55 PM

John

The way I have heard it, is that Dinosaurs (as reptiles) grow throughout their entire lives.

Where did Minimus hear that?

And before the flood, the atmosphere had like 2x the oxygen

So the Flood was 300 million years ago?

12/9/2007 10:39:06 PM

Rhys

"The way I have heard it, blah blah..."

You heard wrong. Also, what the hell is this doing on a WoW forum?

12/9/2007 10:39:15 PM

h2whoa

John: as it happens, he is correct about reptiles growing throughout their lives, but a small reptile will grow only slowly, a large species more quickly.

12/10/2007 4:50:49 AM

Mandie

"The way I have heard it"

You misheard.

12/10/2007 8:45:00 AM



look at a lizard skeleton
look at a dinosaur skeleton
look at a lizard skeleton
look at a dinosaur skeleton


12/10/2007 9:12:04 AM

Brian X

Indeed, anon. Dinosaurs were not directly related to any reptiles living today except the crocodilians, which were an early branch off the archosaur tree, and the tuatara, which I think is from a sister clade, and not from Dinosauria itself. What remains of the dinosaur legacy are birds, and that's about it.

12/10/2007 11:51:01 AM

Mister Spak

"The way I have heard it,"

You heard it from creationists, which guarantees it's a load of shit.

12/10/2007 12:05:10 PM

Darwin

"will try to find article"

Good luck. I won't hold my breath.

12/10/2007 12:19:39 PM

NonProphet

If you can't tell the difference between fantasy and reality, you should GTFO World of Warcraft.

12/10/2007 3:19:15 PM

Yama the Space Fish

Hey, wait a minute, that's not a dinosaur, that's a shark! THEY'RE NOTHING ALIKE.

Anyway, dinosaurs aren't lizards!

12/10/2007 3:24:01 PM

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