Quote# 138056

(=Comments on Christian author Glen Melton Doyle coming out as a lesbian and subsequent marriage to a woman=)

Susan Foley: One can only imagine what the children here really think of this. Have they actually "fallen for Abby"? Is it really their desire "to watch one woman at a time live her truth without asking for permission or offering explanation" when that one woman is their mother, and "living her truth" means tearing up their family, and the permission and explanation would should have been asked from them, given to them? "Oh no, who cares what you think dear, I'm off "living my truth" and you'll just have to adapt. You'd better pretend to be happy about it too or you'll ruin the story!" We won't hear from them until they are old enough to get out from under this monster self-absorbed mother they've got.

Charlie Sutton: My bet: within three years, there will be a tempestuous break-up.

Susan Foley: Count on it. When what matters is the gratification of the present desire, because people are inconstant, when the desire changes, more promises are broken.

Susan Foley, Patheos 4 Comments [6/13/2018 9:06:58 PM]
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The Angry Dybbuk

I'm going to come off as the asshole here, maybe, but I agree with some of what the OPs have to say: This will end in tears. It didn't begin, in my limited opinion, on a sound footing.

Set aside that Glennon Doyle married a women.

My own response – ‘Wait...you announced the end of a 12-year marriage that resulted in three children only to marry again 3.5 months later?' – is one of incredulity.

Doyle's writing is her bread and butter and my personal opinion of it is that she has a flakey style I just can't like. Her life seems to imitate her art.

6/13/2018 9:56:08 PM

Citizen Justin

@ The Angry Dybbuk

To be fair, Glennon Doyle's marriage to the man could have been effectively over for years before she married the woman. I don't know the specifics of this case but there may have been separate beds, living apart, not speaking to each other etc.

Sadly, the marriages of famous people tend not to last long in any case. (Though I may be stretching the definition of 'famous'.)

Calling a mother a 'monster' however is way out of order and should be reserved for cases of criminal child abuse.

6/14/2018 5:01:32 AM

The Angry Dybbuk

@ Citizen Justin:

To be fair, Glennon Doyle's marriage to the man could have been effectively over for years before she married the woman.


That's true - she writes a lot about pain; and there are a few really good observations, but she just comes off as so fucking self-absorbed in her work - and yet, for reasons of her own, Doyle made a cottage industry of that life, her three kids, and that marriage until the latter ended in earnest.

She has that right.

When she undergoes a drastic shift in her own space, such as remarriage, that's on her. But she has three young kids, and the content of Doyle's writing - essentially, her belief people don't need help with pain but merely a safe space to express it - makes me wonder how much preparation and help her kids got and are getting.

Dad lived there. And then he didn't. Now someone else does.

Calling a mother a 'monster' however is way out of order and should be reserved for cases of criminal child abuse.


On that, we agree. I'd like to think the person who said it would have been just as angry if Doyle had married a man, but the truth is she likely wouldn't have known let alone cared.

6/14/2018 6:36:53 AM

Titania

The old 'marry in haste, repent at leisure' perhaps. It's possible for them, but I hope not.

Here the LGBT couples who are getting married now, it was not in haste, because so many of them have been waiting...waiting...waiting...for years.

6/15/2018 12:42:31 AM

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