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Quote# 135192

UFO Disclosure and why it hasn't happened yet. Our best pilots and officers during WW2 reported seeing (Foo Fighters) Not Dave's band. I mean UFO's. And they were seen in big numbers. Why?

Well Earth was embroiled in a World War. We also were making HUGE leaps in technology. Rockets, Radar, and Nuclear Weapons. This brought us a lot of attention from "Others". Hence the spike in sightings. A few years later, the best place to view these new Earth technologies was in one relative place, New Mexico. Now being the "This is new to us. We should hit it with a hammer" race that we are, were able to (after many tries) actually hit upon a radar configuration that would mess with the guidance systems of these craft. Hence Roswell. We actually brought down 3 craft that day using that same configuration. And we immediately snatched up everything and began to backwards engineer them.

You may or may not know about the fleets of these craft as they buzzed Washington with Truman in office. But that's a bit later. When the Army Brass found out that we not only had crashed vehicles and at least one living being, they asked the President what they should do. The President was Eisenhower. He wisely decided "Let's stick em where know one can know about them until we ourselves actually know more. Wise. Always.

Now the tragic part. When President Eisenhower asked for detailed reports and updates of the incident, he was stonewalled. This prompted him to send out 2 CIA (maybe still OSS agents who were told by Ike "Fly out there and knock on the door. Then demand to be shown what was going on. Tell them if they give the two of you any problems whatsoever, that the Big Red 1 was ready to roll in and make the entire base one huge flat piece of land, and any employees that survived were to face treason charges.

Well. Ike got the whole picture. Which boiled down to this. The M.I.C. (Military Industrial Complex)went to their real masters, "Big Energy" first. They then asked them what should be done. Even before they asked the President. Big Energy's answer was "Bury it". You see. The energy is so abundant that these craft use, that a simple 12 ounces of it contains enough energy to evaporate all the water on our planet. But by then the genie was out of the bottle. Not only was the NSA created. It was given the power to take any money from any budget and never have to give a reason. This was not what Eisenhower intended. In his farewell speech to our nation, he did not reminisce about WW2 or the more recent Korean Conflict. No. He spent the entirety of his farewell address to this nation warning us of the Military Industrial Complex. Odd for a man of such achievements to be so worried leaving office with all the foxes in the hen house.

What it has degenerated into is Unacknowledged Special Access Programs. Which are illegal. We have completely legal Special Access Programs, but they have oversight. They have "Watchmen". Unacknowledged Special Access Programs have no such by oversight. No accounting to anyone. And as I sit here, I swear to you they have taken over this beautiful country of ours. Because not only can they do whatever they want under the guise of National Security, they can take as much money as they want too do it.

So the reason they haven't come out and said it is not because the people will be "outraged". They have hidden UFO's because the energy that people are making billions from, would be obsolete over night. Now. You want to know why we don't have an "official disclosure"? Well you are wrong. The ENTIRE FRENCH GOVERNMENT HAS MADE, AND IS IN, CONTACT WITH OUTSIDERS TO THIS MINUTE. Do your own research on the most reputable places you get reliable info from. The French Government made contact on their own. And they have kept nothing secret. Look for yourself.

It's not Aliens that they are afraid will panic us into rioting mobs in the street. It's the fact that the energy these intergalactic ships run on is infinite. It would get us off the Petro-Dollar immediately. THAT MY FRIENDS is why this has been kept hidden. Even from many Presidents. But there is hope. Because entities that exist using no oversight, and are not bound to inform our President and Congress, are illegal! Any oaths. Any NDA's, they are all illegal and cannot be enforced. Hence the rash of whistleblowers.

The M.I.C. Has one card left to play though. How do you turn a Billion dollar business into a trillion dollar business. How do you flip the script and become heroes? If your business is war, then you need a bigger enemy. I have much much more, in very granular detail, about all of this. But for now, I will leave you with what the 2nd in charge of Lockheed (That's "The Man" with a capital T and a capital M) said upon his retirement speech. Among the tidbits he left the packed room of well over a hundred people were...

"We now have the technology to take ET home".

he also said.... "We are 60 to 100 years ahead of anything the general population can even imagine".

And the last tidbit he left was: "Interstellar space travel is no longer a problem for us".

Now Lockheed got the power to reverse engineer the crashed (Shot down) craft. They invented the Fluxliner. Do your own research. There's an entire film from a documentary maker that was made about it. And he was of unquestionable repute. He was also diagnosed with the fastest cancer anyone had ever seen. Now these craft supposedly use Mercury as a main component of travel. We all have some small amount of Mercury in all of us. Now she this film maker was autopsied, it was discovered that the heavy metals were all spiked well above normal. Except Mercury. There wasn't any in his entire corpse. A message?

Now Lockheed has progressed over 50 years with this tech and as you can imagine, have come quite far from the ancient Fluxliners we first designed. Now look up the TR-3B. Also by Lockheed. And here's where I scare you and truly hope to wake even just a few of you up to what's going on. The technology exists to stage a false UFO invasion. This may not only double the M.I.C., but it very may triple it. There is SO MUCH more I can tell you. And if you are sincere, and get in touch with me, I will answer any questions you have such as I can. It's not the Aliens scaring us. It's free energy scaring Big Energy.

Before you even get in touch with me, I ask you to watch The Disclosure Project". Both parts one and two. Look at the impeccable credentials of the people who will gladly, and at the risk of their own lives, testify in front of Congress. Never before had such a class of insiders, and world leaders, and High ranking military and intelligence employees has ever come out in force like this. Of course, 9/11 happened 4 days later.

For the VERY LAST NUGGET (I promise), a former deputy of chief of the CIA was going to give us a suitcase sized box. Free of charge. That when installed, would not only eliminate your energy bill forever, but it would actually feed energy into the grid itself. Unfortunately, he never made the meeting where the handoff was to take place, and after 4 days of searching for him, he was found floating down the Potomac River.

Please wake up. For all of our sakes. Just don't dismiss this as bullshit. Research on your own on your trusted sources of information. It is now more important than ever we come together and demonstrate the goodness in all of us. Because of where we are technology-wise, and because we have killed over 200 million of our own people (and that's just war), our entire planet has been put on quarantine. Now more than ever is the time we say "Hey! We really aren't such a bad bunch. We have been manipulated. And we are sure that with benevolent mentorship, we can contribute to whatever you've got going out there.

I am a man who has very reliable sources. I start all my research from a point of trying to disprove any alien theories. I have finally come to the realization that the alarm has gone off, and we have hit the "Snooze" button several times. We need to get up. For any others interested in this... Well... Let's just say I can fundamentally change your world view. Contact me.

Hogkbar, r/UFOs 4 Comments [12/15/2017 4:20:29 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 135180

Nordic aliens warned humanity about race mixing and 3rd world population explosion

The 50s contactees seemed to report that the majority of the saucer pilots were "Aryans" - long-haired, blonde, tall beings from Venus or other planets in the solar system. The "Aryans," when not warning humanity about atomic war, often gave messages promoting race harmony, but softly warning against racial intermixture and the "population explosion" of the Third World masses...

There has been a lot written about the UFO-Nazi connection. Some of the Nazi elite are thought to have held the theory that there was a hidden race deep within the Earth (the masters of the Vril [Agartha?]) which they could make contact with through the poles. One of the early theories about UFOs was that they were craft piloted by Nazis who had fled after WW II and made contact with this race within the hollow earth (an idea that Ray Palmer, UFOlogy's "father," often assented to.) Today, there are groups of neo-Nazis who believe that the different races of the planet were "seeded" in various geographical locales by different alien groups, and charged with competing for planetary dominance...

These Neo-Nazi groups are obsessed with the idea of extraterrestrial "bloodlines" in human groups. Many think that "star seed" people are descendants of the Celtic races - Basques, Irish, Welsh, Bretons, etc. - and that one of the hallmarks of their extraterrestrial origin is the Rh Negative blood type. The migrations of the Celtic peoples were a result of "racial memory chromosomes" implanted by their ancestors. Some of this neo-Nazi literature suggests that the other "lower" races were the result of genetic experimentation by the aliens - attempts to crossbreed "pure" Aryan types with animals and other lifeforms.

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Anonymous Coward, Godlike Productions 1 Comments [12/14/2017 2:28:52 PM]
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Quote# 134911

The ex-minister of National Defence for Canada said at least four species of aliens have been visiting Earth for decades and claimed top authorities are constantly in discussions with extraterrestrial beings. Paul Hellyer, who was the Canadian Minister of National Defence in the 1960's during the Cold War, claims to have inside information that top governments are in cahoots with aliens. Mr Hellyer first spoke about his belief that aliens were on Earth in 1995, and since then has become an authoritative figure in the UFO community.

Speaking to RT, Mr Hellyer said: “In one of the cases during the Cold War, 1961, there were about 50 UFOs in formation flying South from Russia across Europe. “The supreme allied commander was very concerned and was about ready to press the panic button when they turned around and went back over the North Pole. “They decided to do an investigation and they investigated for three years and they decided that with absolute certainty that four different species, at least, have been visiting this planet for thousands of years.”

Mr Hellyer alleged the alien species travelled to Earth from different star systems. There are apparently four types of aliens here on Earth. He said: “Many are benign and benevolent, and a few are not. They come from various places, for a long while I only knew about ones that came from different star systems, the Pleadies. “There are extraterrestrials that come from Andromeda, and ones that live on one of Saturn’s moon’s. “There is a federation of these people, and they have rules, one of them is that they don’t interfere with our affairs unless they are invited.”

And in a dire threat, Mr Hellyer said the alien visitors have tried to warn the human race about the way civilisation is heading and alleged the United States has spent billions of dollars on so-called "black projects". Mr Hellyer said: “Decades ago, visitors from other planets warned us about the direction we were heading and offered to help. Instead, some of us interpreted their visits as a threat, and decided to shoot first and ask questions after.

“It is ironic that the US should be fighting monstrously expensive wars, allegedly to bring democracy to those countries, when it itself can no longer claim to be called a democracy when trillions, and I mean thousands of billions of dollars have been spent on black projects which both Congress and the Commander-in-Chief have been kept deliberately in the dark.”

Paul Hellyer, The Daily Express 5 Comments [12/6/2017 2:41:23 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134829

Shadowy US secret agents, known as "Men in Black," exist, and ARE covering up the existence of aliens on Earth, a university lecturer has shockingly claimed.

The startling allegation that the long-running conspiracy theory is true will be made in a course offered by the Akdeniz University in Antalya, Turkey.

Lecturer Erhan Kolbasi, who will lead the course about future alien encounters, is convinced the mythical Majestic 12 (MJ-12) group exists to cover up intelligent alien life, reports.

The organisation was allegedly created by US President Harry Truman to hide knowledge of aliens away from the public following the alleged Roswell UFO crash in 1947.

The thinking behind the conspiracy theory is that the government is convinced general knowledge of intelligent aliens would undermine belief in religion and the rule of law and lead to anarchy.

The MJ-12 myth became the basis of the popular Men in Black franchise staring Will Smith.

Erhan Kolbasi, The Express 1 Comments [12/4/2017 3:15:07 PM]
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Submitted By: The Reptilian Jew

Quote# 134788

The moment the government seriously addresses UFOs is the moment they have a bunch of people start asking really strange questions, like "so what about all those people who claim to be getting abducted by aliens?" and "what about those dead cattle", and other things that can't be answered, and a bunch of new lies that need to be told to 'maintain order', so it's better to just pretend nothing is happening and that none of it exists. How about "so what about all those people who have come out and talked about you guys having military programs associated with the subject?", "how about all those lies you guys have been telling us for so many years now?", or "so what about those ICBM shut-down incidents", or "how about the guys who say flying discs appeared during ICBM launch testing and knocked the missile out of the sky while it was all being filmed?".

Anyone in government who knows anything about it couldn't possibly acknowledge it without negative consequences personally or socially, and they react the same way Fife Symington made fun of the whole thing when he was Governor in order to try and keep people calm after the UFO(s) appeared over Phoenix, when in reality he had witnessed it himself and years later told his story to the world about having seen something that 'shook his reality', that he believed came from somewhere other than Earth. If they know, they can't acknowledge it because they don't have any comfortable answers, and with the resources that states have to mount investigations, chances are they have more information than your average man on the street, but maybe the answers they do have are too scary or have implications that are too serious to share with the general public.

that and through human history we see examples of societies and cultures falling apart when confronted with superior or further advanced cultures, they lose their own identities and their established social order crumbles or changes drastically, and the people with power and social position wouldn't want that, making this particular subject one of the biggest secrets - and one of the easiest to keep because a majority of people think they're being intelligent by not believing it. All those big government agencies really exist for the same purpose, to uphold and defend the established social order, to avert social collapse, to keep the rich folks safe from the poor folks and the poor folks safe from each other and managed 'for the good of all', UFOs are something that might negatively impact that, so it can't be acknowledged.

ohlawdwat, r/UFOs 1 Comments [12/2/2017 3:33:38 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134787

I wish they were stepping in, but it seems like they aren't really able to or willing to - for some 'prime directive'-ish reason maybe. Although that is probably absurdly simplistic. Also, this assumes they are 'aliens'.

Everything would seem to add up if that were the case, though; if you were a superpower government and had zero power to communicate with or control sentient beings visiting from elsewhere, would you tell the public that? Or would you just deny it and maintain a 7-decades-long cult of ridicule and disinformation? Especially if their message invalidated a few world religions.

I find the idea that governmental or extragovernmental powers keep UFO secrecy in place to hoard 'free energy' and other advanced technologies to be pretty laughable. We've repeatedly shown ourselves to be utterly irresponsible by creating and using nuclear weapons and we still as standard policy solve our political differences by blowing each other to bits. I personally doubt that any advanced culture would make deals with a planet full of homicidal monkeys like us. JMO, of course.

blissplus, r/UFOs 1 Comments [12/2/2017 3:33:31 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134786

Does anyone consider that there may be some sort of agreement between aliens and humans? Therefor, the aliens decided it's in their best interest to keep things mum. People look at aliens as some type of God, that when revealed, will make all the problems go away. They might be some ramshackle explorers that just barely made it out this far.

LaserBeamsCattleProd, r/UFOs 2 Comments [12/2/2017 3:33:23 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134711

His panic was almost palpable as he tried to walk back the fearsome reputation he’d cultivated. “I am not actually a ‘Neo-Nazi White Supremacist,’ nor do I know what that is,” he wrote in mid-September. He claimed that his violent rhetoric was never sincere but simply a way to mock those who slap a Nazi label on anyone who “stands up for white people’s rights” or “refuses to believe the stupid lies about Hitler” or rejects the “alleged Holocaust” narrative. Anglin now shared what he said had been his true editorial approach all along: “Ironic Nazism disguised as real Nazism disguised as ironic Nazism.”

Five days later, he posted about “the world being ruled either by reptiles from another dimension or some other type of reptilian or insectoid race of aliens.” Where the irony started and stopped was hard to know. I emailed Anglin one more time asking for an interview. He didn’t answer. The next day, he wrote a post calling for the mass execution of journalists. “I want to see pieces of journalist brains splattered across walls,” he wrote.

Andrew Anglin, The Atlantic 1 Comments [11/30/2017 10:59:48 PM]
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Submitted By: Hu’s On First

Quote# 134544

First, lets definitely get one necessary point out of the way: Some alien disclosure reports are likely fake. OK now that we got that out of the way, lets make one point clear: There's is overwhelming evidence that firmly suggests many types of extra-terrestrial findings have been real throughout the history of civilization on earth. There are well over 80 billion earth-like planets in our galaxy ALONE. And there are hundreds of billions of galaxies, full of planets, out there in the OBSERVABLE universe ALONE. Which means there are conclusively trillions and trillions of planets out least. It leaves me dumbfounded to witness some people out there still saying things that even remotely imply that there's no life and especially CONSCIOUS human life "out there". --that WE'RE the only ones. smh.

This orietation of thinking in terms of our relation to the outer realms of our planet is nothing new. First, we thought the earth was the center of the universe, then in the 16th century Nicolus Copernicus created the heliocentric model that consequentially squished that invalid, self-glorifying point of view. It didn't just discredit that POV; it discredited even the belief that the earth was the center of our solar system, which was further dis-proven in the 17th century with Galileo's use of his telescope and then later that century with Issac Newton's discoveries regarding celestial mechanics---gravitation and its effect on the orbits of the planets. So, it's more than logical to conclude that after we as a civilization abolish the ruling class that persistantly blocks society from limitless prosperity(with unhindered industries and advancements in knowledge) so that they can live cushy lives with no competition, it will soon become substantiated and accepted worldwide, that we are absolutely NOT the only planet throughout all the universe of universes on which there has evolved life--and futhermore..a civlization of conscious "human" life.

There are ex-members of the ruling class who walked away, like Kevin Trudeau, who openly and aggressively divulge information and valid predictions to the masses about the ruling class' irrationally selfish and ultimately self-destructive agenda and the methods they use to orchestrate it. This includes fear mongering through the media...alot of it. Among recent predictions were that there would be an influx of movies and tv reports about aliens "threatening" life on earth. And judging by the question you posted and this recent increase in promotion of alien movies and TV series' throughout all media, this was also an accurate prediction. For all these reasons, it's important for people to continue giving attention to this topic like you have.

?, Yahoo! Answers 2 Comments [11/26/2017 8:18:51 AM]
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Quote# 134141

back2thebible: actually I believe just the opposite, much like those in the 1400's who believed God's word over the invented philosophies of men the philosophers overtook the church with there errant cosmology and it became the launch pad for evolution, even solid Christians today have a hard time reconciling scripture with what is plainly portrayed in the text.

AVoice: I see your point.
Just considering the many Christians now who laugh at evolution because it is not honest science. Also many atheists cannot accept evolution because of the IT technology within living organisms. But instead of accepting the Bible, they choose to identify the obvious higher power to be aliens who started life here long ago. The admission being; that chance and random accidents for the ordered, highly intelligent, and coordinated systems, is absurd. So my idea was that given the research and facts being presented by the FE community; if the course that transpired for the evolution delusion was replayed by the new facts emerging concerning FE, it seems reasonable that given enough time, under accommodating circumstances, the mindset 'evolving' from RE to FE would be anticipatory.
I suppose as you say in effect, the atmosphere or circumstances that would accommodate such an evolution; there doesn't seem to be much hope for that.
The media is non-stop deluding the masses, along with the education system.
I am thinking of putting an ad in the local free paper making it known that a Flat Earth Research Group operates in this area. Only one member, me, so far. But how do you know who else is interested unless you let it be known there are others around with whom things can be discussed and notes exchanged?

'Herd mentality' is a plague.

AVoice, Carm 5 Comments [11/13/2017 4:33:34 AM]
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