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Quote# 64220

[All this for saying I'm agnostic and explaining that man doesn't know everything about the universe on my profile]

Dear Spencer,

You have received an infraction at Christian Forums.

Reason: False Teaching
Permanent infraction, unless you repent, for calling Jesus a liar. God said He will make a liar out of you.

This infraction is worth 1 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire.

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Churchwork, Biblocalty 60 Comments [7/30/2009 7:16:45 PM]
Fundie Index: 59

Quote# 60463

Is Christianity a cult like fstdt,, and Is Christianity a cult at all or is proven? (as in the 4 Step Perfect Proof for God of the Bible). How can it be a cult if it is proven? I don't see how this is possible, since God created us and God is uncreated as proven.

I am banned at and, but not (not today anyway), and not fstdt (not yet anyhow). The reason they ban me is because they can't find anything wrong with the Proof for God and the love of the Lord in my life. Their owners and admins are jealous that I have what they will never have. They are jealous my Father in heaven has made my brothers and sisters in Christ the leading conscience on the planet.

churchworker, FACTNet 97 Comments [3/12/2009 10:41:32 AM]
Fundie Index: 17

Quote# 58444

An atheist will accuse a Christian for what he perceives to be the evil of God of the Bible for the flood and telling Israel to annihilate tribes in Canaan, but if God is not real then these are just events of nature, so the atheist would be accusing naturalism of being evil, but this contradicts the high and mighty morals an atheists purports to have for believing in and accepting such naturalism. Otherwise, the atheist would have to admit that he is a bad person, evil to the core in which case Christianity proves its point that the atheism is evil.

If the atheist reverts back to being agnostic this also will not do, because if he rejects Christianity because of natural disasters, he is rejecting also atheism which has natural disasters. Therefore, the agnostic is not being honest, for he is claiming in one fell swoop both Christianity and atheism to be false and is not open to either of them being true which goes against agnosticism. The agnostic is lying about being agnostic. The agnostic is therefore accusing himself unwittingly of claiming nothing is true which is impossible, for obviously this universe does exist.

Since no other system fits, either atheism is true or Christianity is true. Christianity explains why these things happen and atheism finds itself in a contradiction as was explained, so we are left with no option but Jesus is God.

Churchwork, Christian Forums 62 Comments [2/13/2009 3:00:19 AM]
Fundie Index: 11
Submitted By: TheDoc

Quote# 57873

[Prove that hell exists. Prove that heaven exists. Prove that sinners go to hell.

Explain why you warn people that they're going to hell in the first place. "Judge not, lest ye be judged".

Mind your own business and let people live their lives without being accosted by you.]

How do you prove hell exists? Be logical.

Since you will always exist, you have to go some place. Because you can't go where those who are saved are going, you must go someplace else. This place is called hell. God would never allow you where you don't belong or where you can continue to inflict harm on those who have eternal life, or the populace in general.

Since God is proven to exist, He is in His abode which is heaven.

When the Bible says do not judge it says this to tell you that whatever you judge by, so shall you be judged. Since I will not be judged for calling Jesus a liar, I can inform you of what Jesus said, that you are condemned for hell for rejecting His loving sacrifice, just as Jesus spoke on hell more than anyone else in the Scriptures.

I have told you the truth. Just because you don't like it, there is no reason for you to accost me as to try to control me and make demands by bearing false witness. Speaking the truth is profitable, not accosting.

Do you see the difference? Now ask yourself why you call Jesus a liar, and therein realize you have no valid reason, so your hostility is like that of fallen Lucifer, the Devil, who is going to hell.

Churchwork, Biblocality 39 Comments [2/6/2009 7:44:27 PM]
Fundie Index: 4
Submitted By: Starfire

Quote# 54693

It is not a healthy perspective to be an atheist, nor is it logical since God is proven in the Proof for God of the Bible. To not know your purpose given by God is most uneventful and dull.

You may be able to mindlessly self-declare things on other forums, but here you will continue to get infractions for your self-declarations which you never back up. That's why they are of self not needing reason. Such infractions will include statements like, "Not traits practiced by most of christianity today" even though you have no evidence for your claim given, and "The old testament is a butchery of the Jewish Bible, twisted to justify the Messiahship of Jesus" even though you have no evidence presented. Since we have 62 prophecies that point to Christ and you can't overturn them, then what do you have but self-declarations? This is not a forum for that kind of selfish behavior.

Once you realize Jesus walked on earth, you'll also need to account for the writers of the Bible reporting Jesus' words Jesus saying He is God, and seeing Him resurrected.

You don't need to be the oldest religion to be the right one, for many false religions have been operating such as the one that built the pyramids or the one that says you can come back as a chicken in Hinduism with always another chance to come back as a human. This does not deal with sin righteously if you know you can stay in sin to be redeemed later. God will never save such a person.

Churchwork, Christian Forums 46 Comments [12/23/2008 12:43:35 AM]
Fundie Index: 7
Submitted By: DevilsChaplain

Quote# 54157

The cult of the FSTDT is a cult of agnostics/atheists who call Jesus a liar, yet they have no reason for doing so. What FSTDT really stands for is For Satan The Demonic Teacher.

In spite of the fact that God of the Bible is proven in the 4 Step Perfect Proof, they still remain shutting their minds down.

When I am against something, I at least have some evidence, yet they need none because they operate as a cult.

*** Here is the URL for his "4 Step Perfect Proof": ***

Churchwork, Biblocality 66 Comments [12/14/2008 4:27:38 PM]
Fundie Index: 10

Quote# 51302

All the great founders of the great scientific disciplines were Bible believers and creationists such as Sir Isaac Newton, Blaise Pascal, Johannes Kepler, Lord Kelvin, Louis Pasteur.

(How then, do we account for the great discoveries made by people of other faiths?)

It's called common grace. Just because someone is unsaved and living a lie does not entirely prevent them from being wrong 100% of the time. They can still yet discover things by trial and error.

Churchwork, Biblocality 31 Comments [11/6/2008 12:46:56 AM]
Fundie Index: 5

Quote# 51291

[From Biblocality's jokes page. Seriously.]

Go up to an amillennialist or post-tribulation premillennialists and say to him or her, that you have become a replacement theologian. They will look at you and say, finally you have believed in what we believe. Then respond by saying, ya, I believe Israel is going to replace the church, ha ha! Then watch the steam come out of their ears.

Churchwork, Biblocality 53 Comments [11/5/2008 6:39:30 PM]
Fundie Index: 4
Submitted By: Grigori Yefimovich

Quote# 33123

The cult of the FSTDT is a cult of agnostics/atheists who call Jesus a liar, yet they have no reason for doing so. What FSTDT really stands for is For Satan The Demonic Teacher.

In spite of the fact that God of the Bible is proven in the 4 Step Perfect Proof, they still remain shutting their minds down.

When I am against something, I at least have some evidence, yet they need none because they operate as a cult.

Churchwork, 664 Comments [1/3/2008 4:55:21 AM]
Fundie Index: 19

Quote# 29714

Understand that logic can't convince an unsaved person because it is illogical to remain unsaved.

Churchwork (A Friend), Biblocality Forums 236 Comments [10/5/2007 12:31:18 PM]
Fundie Index: 8
Submitted By: Troy
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