Quote# 110380

[[ How can you justify the very real possibility of leaving your children motherless over a high risk pregnancy? Where's the value on their life now that they're out? On yours? Maybe you should ask your four year old who he'd rather have die... Mommy or the baby he hasn't met yet. You make me fucking sick. I hope you realize that if you die, you have decided your son doesn't deserve a mother, you have chosen the unborn over the living breathing boy in front of you.]]


What kind of Mother can hold one child in her arms, then the other in her body; both inside her heart, then consciously choose to take one of their lives for the sake of her own?

About 6 months into my pregnancy I remember my son asking me during dinner, “Mommy, if a woman who is pregnant with a baby dies can they still save the baby?

A man or woman who leaves his/her family and risks his/her life for his country is a hero, but a woman who would die for her child revolts you. Unfortunately you share some of the same values as our current society; that an innocent human life can be measured or weighed against another’s. That because I am a woman and have the ability to bear life, that I should also have the ability to take that life away.

I’ll have you know that each of my four children (¾ of them were unplanned by me, but planned by God, pregnancies) were all high risk. Each and every one of them I suffered D.V.Ts and P.E.s, all extensive, excruciating, and fatal. Perhaps if we were fighting for real woman’s health, I would have been able to get on the required shots (about $4,000-7,000 a month-Lovenox) and medication that my insurance fought against me for, that would have prevented all of these clots, rather than only being able to take them after I developed life threatening clots.

For some reason our current society believes woman’s health is the power to take the life of a human being, and contracepting her natural and normal working fertility. We are only “powerful” women in this society when we disrespect our healthy bodies with medication, from the time we first get our periods. We are told as young girls that in order to be in a relationship we must reject ourselves and our bodies natural functions, that we must loath our fertility, and view our very wombs as plagues. I already have the gift to give life, why do I need the power to take life away?

We are told that instead of educating a women’s body about her natural fertility and infertility periods through the use of N.F.P, which is 99% effective for every woman (regular and irregular periods), we should take this pill, this shot, this patch and place objects in our bodies and then label this “Woman’s Health Care.” I refuse to believe that by contracepting my body to become barren like a man will gain me some sort of power and respect. I am a woman and I expect to be expected by society as a whole, as I was born.

I apologize to all the young girls being shoved into their fist exams at 14 to be placed on a seemingly mandatory medication.

I apologize to all the young girls being led to believe that their bodies’ natural functions are a disease, a pre existing condition.

You deserve to be educated and informed about your body, and its beauty.

I am also deeply sorry if you believe that one of my four children are less precious to me because I had yet to see their face. I’m sorry if you are revolted that I cannot choose one child or the other, or choose my own life over my child’s. I know it’s hard to believe that there is love beyond what our eyes can see, in a consumerist world in which places values on humans based on what they produce, rather than simply because they are human beings.

And I will have you know, that the when I sat down to tell my children that I was pregnant with their sibling, my 8 year old son broke down in tears, “Mommy, I am just so happy. I have been praying for you to have another baby.”

The first time I felt my baby kick was standing in Mass singing a hymn, my 7 year old son pressed against by belly as he held his unborn sibling. When he felt the movement against his cheek, he glanced up on me to confirm that what he had felt was his sibling, seemingly responding to his loving embrace. And I will have you know, my four year old daughter teared up with delight to find out her unborn sibling was in fact a little girl, and she would finally have the little sister she too had been praying for.

Mostly, I am sorry for those that believe that in the event I would have died for one of my children that they would be without a Mother. Death does not remove me from their lives and their hearts. The day they place my body into the ground, will not be the day that every kiss I ever gave them washes off, that every story I ever read will be forgotten, that every laugh we ever shared will fade away into a frown. Nothing will stop me from living in their lives, and my children, completely aware of the risks I took to bring them into this world, never second guessed their happiness about their new sibling. Not during the 3 times I was admitted into the hospital, not during the twice a day injections into my stomach, not during the 4 hour bi-weekly office visits they patiently sat through, waiting to hear their siblings heart beat and a blurry black and white profile of their siblings face on the ultra sound.

My children have been raised to understand and value love and life, as I suffered lovingly through each and every one of their pregnancies with the possibility of death.

I don’t want the power to take another human’s life, and if you truly understood the value of life, you wouldn’t want that either. And although my children are all completely aware of the risks, I find it extremely disturbing to ask one of my children to choose between a sibling and his/her mother. Is this a choice, truly?

How can we as humans, born to love as the fish are born to swim and the birds are born to fly, desire the power to choose take another human beings life? Can we not see how infinitely precious we are?

Alwaysbeautifullife, tumblr 18 Comments [7/2/2015 1:42:03 PM]
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Quote# 4825

I was driving my Chevy Monza, which I had never had any problems with... and was waiting for the traffic to clear so I could turn. But, the car died. I turned the key several times but it wouldn't turn over... Just then, <u>there was a three car pile up</u> in the intersection... Right where I'd have been if the car had not died. As soon as I stopped shaking and thanked God, I turned the key. The car started up immediately <u>and I went on my way</u>, but the opposite direction from what I had planned. [Emphasis added]

BeeSavedToo, Rapture Ready 12 Comments [10/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 3667

There is more evidence for creation. The people proposing the theories for creation are more trustworthy than the people proposing evolutionary theories. T[heory]o[f]E[volution] is untenable. The theory isn't based in scientific proof. It is based on guesses from biased people.

Jason G, JCSM Forums 7 Comments [8/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 51624

Maybe we will suffer through this horrible election and then we will be taken home and out of here soon. I'm going to cling to that hope.

arewethereyet, RaptureReady 32 Comments [11/6/2008 11:30:50 PM]
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Submitted By: Tom S. Fox
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Quote# 91250

I'm quite knew on this forum but I'm beginning to see that the atheist here are hiding what they don't know by "anti-religious sentiment" as you've stated. I'm protesting, atheist should never have forums again.

The realest, Atheist Forums 36 Comments [12/9/2012 5:24:26 AM]
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Submitted By: Stimbo
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Quote# 14400

COMFORTER,
TODAY, AFTER READING A BOOK CALLED "PORTALS TO CLEANSING" BY DR. HENRY MALONE, I DECIDED I NEEDED TO HAVE MY ANIMALS DELIVERED AS WELL. I STARTED WITH MY CAT. I HAVE ALREADY ANOINTED THEM AND PLED THE BLOOD OVER THEM, BUT I DECIDED THEY NEEDED A DELIVERANCE AS WELL.
I ANOINTED HER WITH OIL IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER, THE SON, AND THE HOLY SPIRIT. THEN I DEDICATED HER TO THE LORD. THEN I BEGAN THE DELIVERANCE. AS SOON AS I TOLD THE EVIL FORCES TO LEAVE IMMEDIATELY, THE CAT DID TOO ! SHE RAN FROM ME AND HID. THEN, SHE RAN TO THE DOOR. SHE LOOKED FRIGHTENED. SO, LOOKING HER IN THE EYE, AND BEING ABLE TO TELL THERE WAS SOMETHING THERE BESIDES HER, I COMMANDED THEM TO LEAVE HER BODY IMMEDIATELY AS SHE IS DEDICATED TO JESUS CHRIST AND HIS PROPERTY. I LET HER OUTSIDE AND SHE YAWNED...WHICH IS AN INDICATION THEY ARE LEAVING. SHE STAYED OUTSIDE, DESPITE THE WIND BLOWING HARD. THEN, AFTER ABOUT 10-15 MINUTES SHE CAME BACK IN. SHE SEEMS DIFFERENT. IN A GOOD WAY. I GUESS THE DOG IS NEXT.
COMFORTER, ANY THOUGHTS OR ADVICE?

Guest, War of the Angels 157 Comments [9/1/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Strife Coltrane
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Quote# 8834

We can't pray in our schools, disturbing nobody, and yet Oregon just passed a law that allows people to actually have sex and masturbate on stage in strip clubs. Actually having sex!!! They said this is "protected free speech" and an "expression of an opinion." Give me a break.

Cooter, Christian Forums 38 Comments [1/3/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 110005

I am proud to say that I find all the writers at VDARE.com instinctively want to wait whenever there’s some atrocity like the Charleston Church massacre to see what actually happened—although of course we do feel free to point out that the MSM systematically memory-holes the far more numerous similar incidents with minority/ immigrant perps. Consequently, we are never caught in rush-to-judgement fiascoes like political elite’s notoriously disastrous effort to pin the Gabrielle Giffords shooting on white conservatives.

But every once in a while, it turns out that the perp is motivated by white racial feeling. If this were common, it might put us in the position of left-wing Democrats during the Weathermen rampages. (Hint: they ignored them). However, it is rare.

In what appears to be Dylann Roof’s manifesto, he expresses particular disquiet at the political elite’s race-baiting hysteria, clearly a blatant effort to mobilize the black vote and also subsequently discredited, about the Trayvon Martin Hoax. This must mean that the Left is at least partly to blame. Yet googling produces nothing significant on “Dylann Roof” + “Root Cause.”

Immigrant/ minority perps also always trigger sympathetic MSM coverage about their co-ethnics fearing backlash. But I haven’t even bothered to google for articles about white conservatives fearing backlash.

Peter Brimelow, VDARE 20 Comments [6/24/2015 3:21:41 AM]
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Quote# 118608

Authorities found dozens of weapons, drugs, possible explosives and a still inside an underground bunker when they raided the home of a self-styled “medicine man” in North Carolina.

Reuben DeHaan operates two businesses, “Get Well Stay Well” and “Health Care Ministries International,” from his Kings Mountain home that investigators say earned $2.7 million over six years, reported the Charlotte Observer.

The 43-year-old DeHaan filed papers in 2010 renouncing his U.S. citizenship and challenging government authority, and he claims to be a minister of the Native American Church of Nemenhah — which claims to be a “healing-based religion.”

DeHaan sold naturopathic remedies, such as colloidal silver, to “detoxify” the body and cure diseases such as the Ebola virus.

But an attorney for the Native American Rights Fund described the church — which uses “sovereign citizen” tactics to challenge government authority — as nothing but “sham artists.”

Federal agents raided DeHaan’s home as part of a joint FBI/Internal Revenue Service investigation, and recently unsealed documents reveal a startling discovery beneath his front yard.

Agents said they discovered about 70 weapons, including high-powered rifles and ammunition, in a multi-room bunker, in addition to 10 more guns found inside DeHaan’s home and vehicles.

They also found food and beverages stored in the bunker, in addition to at least two 2,000-gallon water tanks, and materials investigators believe could be used to build a bomb — including including PVC piping, Tannerite, aluminum powder and 100 feet of fusing.

The underground bunker was outfitted with an air filtration system in case of a nuclear attack.

He also grew herbal remedies in the bunker, which he did not have a permit to build.

DeHaan avoided paying taxes since 1997 by claiming that his earnings were actually religious donations, but the IRS does not recognize Nemenhah as a tribe or a church.

He has been charged with tax evasion and attempting to interfere with administration of internal revenue laws.

His attorney described DeHaan, who held a passport issued by the World Government of World Citizens, as a “prepper” and gun collector.

Dehaan is not licensed by the state of North Carolina, and he’s not recognized by the North Carolina Association of Naturopathic Physicians.

“This is defrauding the public,” said Dr. Susan DeLaney, of the NCANP. “I mean really, would you go to see a mail order dentist?”

Reuben DeHaan, Raw Story 14 Comments [4/30/2016 4:21:59 AM]
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Quote# 50973

(on a video showing that the earth isn't 6000 years old)

had it ever occurred to you that the elements to create the earth had to be there to form the earth??? Therefore all the elements were there before God created the earth. The universe was already in existance. God didn't just create the earth, he's preparing it now for Christ's second coming....who will have the dobts then, or be so clever with their blsphemous comments and videos!!!

sheenaann123, Yahoo Answers 27 Comments [11/4/2008 5:20:52 PM]
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Submitted By: J Arcenas
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Quote# 113210

"modern feminists/femifascists, and their third wave hate cult Kool Aid lunacy - as well as the pathetic white knight manginas who always stand by their side with the incentive and false hope that they will gain brownie points with these sociopaths. No, not all femifascists are fat and ugly, however, 99.99% ARE indeed hideous on the inside. And yes, many ARE fat. Coincidence? I think not. Any woman can be physically attractive but monstrously unappealing on the inside, and once it is reared to the surface, renders any and all attractiveness she could have dead. Yes, the same applies to men but this issue is about the poisonous indoctrination femifascism IS, and has been for decades now. Luckily it is not infectious the world over, in my country (Germany ) included where it's next to nil. Femifascists are their own worst enemy, they never offer anything new or inventive to any argument or debate, simply parroting the same regurgitated bollocks which have been read and heard thousands of times before, they are extremely self-defeating in their dogmatic insanity, and everything they say and do only further deepens the grave where their "cause" will lie once it is dead - because femifascism IS on borrowed time, doomed to die. No one outside of their hate cult takes them seriously. They despise logic, reason, rational thought, facts, and reality, and any and all attempts at trying to get through to them is comparable to trying to speak to someone in a coma. I've not encountered one of their ill ilk since 1998, and I and those I know would never go out of our way to seek them out. ONLY online do I encounter these plunkers which says A LOT about them more than anyone and anything they hate and oppose.To me femifascism is a mental illness, and there is no cure. They have created a bitter people--women are more angry now, lonelier than ever, yet it's okay cause they're "independent" and somehow blame men. Have sex before marriage yet expect to be valued as some gem. ?#?NoHymenNoDiamond?"

No Hymen, No Diamond, Facebook 30 Comments [9/29/2015 5:20:14 PM]
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Quote# 113351

Let's not forget it is the Red Pope who green lighted the hoisting of the "palestinian" flag when he, Red Francis, declared a "palestinian" state. In July 2015 in South America, Pope Francis during his first mass announced that God had called upon him, instructing him “to revise the most sacred of texts, the Ten Commandments.” Pope Francis said the updated Commandments reflect the changing times and include some minor rewording of the existing rules as well as the addition of two new Commandments. The Fourth Commandment, which advocates that proper respect be shown towards one’s parents, has been reworded in order to include children raised by same-sex parents. Pope Francis said the Seventh Commandment, prohibiting adultery and, among other things, homosexuality, has been removed entirely, as instructed by God, in order to extend “God’s grace to all His children.” There will now be 11 commandments. A spokesman for the Vatican, Father Federico Lombardi, said the Eleven Commandments are currently being etched into marble by an Italian sculptor and, upon completion, will be unveiled to the world in Saint Peter’s Square following an internationally televised mass.

The Red Pope is on the march. Signs and wonders are next. Let him who has ears hear.

wickerwhite, WND 30 Comments [10/4/2015 9:07:48 AM]
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Quote# 118940

Brainwashing in 4/4 Time

Issue Date: May/June 1986
Brainwashing is easy...Hitler's director of propaganda, Joseph Goebbels, told the world how to do it: Hit the streets with your message long enough; repeat it over and over, and soon they will believe it. History shows how well he made it work in Germany.

That is exactly what is happening today with rock music. Through constant repetition, the message of rock music is training the next generation. What is that message? Here is what the shakers and movers of rock music say it is. Frank Zappa, superstar of Mothers of Invention fame: "Rock music is sex. The big beat matches the body's rhythms." David Bowie: "Rock 'n' roll will destroy you. It lets in lower elements and shadows. Rock has always been the devil's music." Richard Oldham, manager of ROLLINGSTONES: "Rock music is sex and you have to hit them (teenagers) in the face with it." Alice Cooper: "The whole idea behind the thing for me is rebellion." Glenn Frey of THEEAGLES: "I'm in rock music for the sex and narcotics." Mick Jagger of THEROLLINGSTONES: "Ours is a group with built-in hate. We communicate aggression and frustration to an audience, musically and visually." "We're moving after the minds and so are most of the new groups." Spencer Dryden, drummer: "Get them when they're young. Bend the minds."

There you have it, right from the horses' mouths. Their goal, through constant repetition, is to fill the minds of the young with perverted sex, hatred, rebellion and drugs. It's open warfare.

And now, "Christians" who want to look as much like the world as possible, are bring the primitive "beat" into churches. The result? Christian young people are developing an ever-stronger rock sound so much alike, you will find them listening to both.

Slowly, but ever so surely, the message of today's rock stars oozes into the mind and soul, for repetition is the essence of brainwashing. And they're doing it to your kids.

Chick Publications, Chick.com 17 Comments [5/15/2016 7:17:43 AM]
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Quote# 118846

(About the disabled Bernie Sanders supporter whose broken-down car was ignored by a conservative tow truck driver)

That woman must be so traumatised now and is probably hiding in her safe space and taking to social media to whine about being "abused" by a conservative Christian.

But since she wants to feel the burn, so we're just letting her.

Zuko of the Fire Nation, WND 35 Comments [5/10/2016 3:07:35 AM]
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Submitted By: Ibuki Mioda
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Quote# 56125

What did you think about Ben Stein's "Expelled?"?

Answer(by Deb S) : It was a great movie! If you are a netflix subscriber you can watch it instantly.

I thought the comparison to Hitler and the wall to keeping the truth away from people was excellent.

Answer (by whirlingmerc): I think it was really well done. I bought a copy. It was witty and entertaining and at the same time eye opening and informative. No surprise it is the 12th highest grossing documentary of all time.

It was sad to see some Christian schools dropping the contracts of Creationists and Intelligent Design advocates. I guess perhaps they should not call themselves Christian schools anymore. I don't know what's going on in the minds of Christian administrators in Christian schools to dump their basic beliefs and force out creatinist and intelligent design advocates. They are the ones who should be looking for new jobs.

Truthfully, Creationists and Intelligent Design are winning the arguments based on the evidence, but Evolutionists win the propaganda wars.

Deb S &whirlingmerc, Yahoo Answers 51 Comments [1/16/2009 4:14:43 PM]
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Submitted By: J Arcenas
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Quote# 4525

I just don't understand how this guy can have any followers. I'm truly a skeptic of everything. Besides, the only one I choose to follow is the one true Christ who died and was buried and rose again...

Saint in Christ, Rapture Ready 5 Comments [10/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 107550

Homosexual logic is the "logic" used to justify the Homosexual Agenda. Like liberal logic generally, homosexual logic relies on statements that appear to be logical but that are actually rife with logical fallacies. Examples include:
Calling things the opposite of what they are, e.g., justifying their special rights as just another form of equal protection.
Improperly shifting the burden of proof by asserting that homosexuality must be understood as not a choice until it is conclusively shown to be one.
Slippery slope arguments in which they argue that repression of homosexuality will lead to a series of bad results that actually will not follow or that have nothing to do with homosexuality.
Cherry-picking only those parts of the Bible that suit their purposes, while arguing that any parts of Scripture that are inconvenient to them need to be "interpreted" correctly or were "nailed to the Cross," or that just by mentioning them, you are "twisting" them in some unspecified way.
Taking it for granted that any book with a pro-homosexual slant must be true, rather than critically assessing whether that book is credible.
Appealing to majority will, but only when it suits them; switching back and forth between "This is what the people want" and "America is a republic, not a democracy."
Demanding that their own interpretation (or misinterpretation) of the Bible be made binding on everyone, despite the establishment clause.
Demanding limited government, but only when it suits them, while supporting government oppression of anyone they don't like.
Claiming to be persecuted when in reality it is they who are doing the persecuting.

DavidE, Conservapedia 17 Comments [4/3/2015 3:09:06 AM]
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Submitted By: Yuu
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Quote# 64205

the world starting to be a global government is one of the last signs of the end time, and rebuilding of the tower of babel.
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I am so glad, come back soon JEsus!

satelite implants for the 666 mark of the beast is already underway!Get ready to say you are not Christian in order to buy food.
They will swipe your chip in order to validate your answer.

Gee Whillakers, Y! answers 50 Comments [7/25/2009 12:14:33 PM]
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Quote# 39690

As for the age of the earth it keeps getting billions of YEARS older each DAY according to evolutionists.

The Light, Hannity Forums 42 Comments [5/21/2008 4:33:48 PM]
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Submitted By: Damned at Random
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Quote# 449

Evolution is anti-Christian nonsense and an affront to the one true Creator God.

I rebuke the spirit of evilution in JESUS name. OUT!

Susan, Christian Forums 28 Comments [9/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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