Quote# 23371

Yes, enemies. Jesus had them. The prophets had them. Christians have them, whether they realize it or not. I think it is high time they started to realize it. People like those that launch the lawsuits to get prayer or crosses, or the bible, etc out of the state, or country, or schools, etc.
We are in a war of the worlds, and only one side will come out as winners. The battle has begun.

dad, Christian Forums 18 Comments [4/10/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 6840

Say, since most here don't believe in a supreme being, I ask, what do molecules care what other molecules think?

PeterPaul, Christian Forums 18 Comments [4/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 7093

I think baldness is related to having a haughty spirit or arrogance.

JohnR7, Christian Forums 27 Comments [4/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 42046

(Thread title : Why does God keep waiting to come get us?)



If the Lord had not waited, my cousin woudn't have died in a single car accident in August 2001...

She was on her way home after giving a concert at a church. She had just finished her first Gospel album at our cousins husband's studio in Lyndale Tx.

What the news account does not mention is that the witnesses (the full account is in the police record) saw another person in the car with Wendy just as she rounded a curve in the road. The car went over the shoulder and came back and rolled. The witnesses saw my cousin in the drivers seat, seatbelt on, with a gash on her head, and they asscertained that she was dead. The witnesses then tried to find the other occupant of the car, searching the nearby area. When the police arrived, they told the officers that the "other" person must be under the vehicle, since they couldn't find this person in the nearby ditch. The vehicle was rolled over and there was no one under the vehicle.

Our familly knows that she was taken to be with the Lord by the Angel in the car with her before the crash. This has been a great comfort to all in my family and has been a source of strenght and a reminder that God will not forsake those who belong to Him.


If the Lord had not waited, my mother wouldn't have died from Leukeima and an apparent mistake on the part of her Oncologist in 2004. I was with her when she died. Just before she passed, she came out of her apparent coma, looked at one corner of the hosptal room and said, "Lord, Lord . . . " and then died. The curtains around the room started to move and then were still - like a Hand stopped them from moving within about 5 seconds.

If the Lord had come before these things, our family wouldn't be what they are today, more grounded in the promises of the Lord, more "heavenly minded" and not so wrapped up in "this world" and what this world has to offer.

I say all this to say one thing . . . if the reason the Lord tarries is to bring every last person in as possible, I am willing to see any death of my family (those who know the salvation of our Jesus The Christ) and to face my own death . . . if it means others will be there with us at the Marriage Supper of the Lamb.

KaiafromBergen, RaptureReady 60 Comments [7/1/2008 5:27:48 AM]
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Quote# 42195

If they find life on Mars I will say the same thing I say about life here on Earth.
God did it.

KingdomCome, Rapture Ready 45 Comments [7/3/2008 4:40:35 AM]
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Quote# 66394


I've noticed that those of us who are pro-life and call abortion "murder" don't go all the way and support decades to life imprisonment or even capital punishment for those who perform abortions, and certainly not for the ones who consent to its being done in the first place--the pregnant women themselves. Abortion equals murder and those who murder are murderers and even the Scriptures advocate the ending of the life of the murderer, yet we don't. Is our calling it "murder" more of a political statement, designed to get attention (as happens so often in politics and the media, anyway) than to accurately convey what we actually feel it is? IOW, why the seeming inconsistency between our publically labelling abortion as such, yet our silence when it comes to suggesting the most severe punishments under law? Have we re-defined murder so that a particular form of it does not merit the harshest penalties? Isn't it time we figure out exactly what we think of it as and take the appropriate action and advocate the proper punishments?

jlujan69, Christian Forums 45 Comments [10/8/2009 3:14:14 PM]
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Quote# 2149

Wow, this guy may want to consider prozac if he is that depressed. Actually the truth is depression comes from a fallen point of view about creation. If you could see creation the way God sees it, you would not be depressed, you would be very happy and rejoicing in the Lord.

JohnR7, Christian Forums 4 Comments [1/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 41250

Hear the war call of the New Atheist Movement! It is a brave growl accompanied with face paint and kilts, no doubt (Mr. Hitchens, please lower your kilt). Much like a neocon baiting the U.S. to drop the bombs of freedom in Iraq comes the New Atheist battle cry:

"There's a generation of children that needs liberating! Who will fulfill the high call of molesting them?"

nequam_lacuna, New Atheism Suggests: "More Children Need Molesting!" (Xanga) 49 Comments [6/19/2008 8:22:37 PM]
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Quote# 21395

If all you are doing is surviving, you are basically the Devil.


Gottservant, christianforums.com 39 Comments [3/1/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 103791

(A review to the book Drunk With Blood: God's killings in the Bible)

You judge from your limited observation. God's killings are actually acts of grace. If He had not killed all living creatures except Noah, the earth would have been hell, because of the hybrid- people - half fallen angel- half human being that satan had poluted and filled the earth with. KILLING THEM saved God's plan and the uncontaminated human race by one man: Noah. For only Noah was perfect in his generations - UNCONTAMINATED BY SATAN'S SEED!

And as Jesus foretold that the last days were going to be as the days of Noah - meaning: the human race would again be polluted - they are experimenting now with animal DNA in human bodies etc.

God had a choice: Either destroy the whole earth and everone, because satan had corrupted all living matter, including Noah and the animals God led to the Ark. Simply to start all over. He had done that once already: Because the earth was not made void when God created the heaven and the earth. NO IT BECAME VOID, when satan and 1/3 of the angels who followed the archangel Lucifer in his rebellion battled God's angels. The creation account from Genesis 1: 2c is actually a SECOND CREATION!

God - in His incredible grace did not want to kill the only perfect seed left (Gen. 6:9) - so He spared the earth and a sample of all animals for the sake of one man!

THIS IS GRACE! But you look at all the hybrid humans God killed. This killing does not make God cruel at all. But rather the very opposite of a cruel genocidal murdered. The bad guy was satan who contaminated all human seed.

The reason for satan doing this was the curse over him, the prophecy God had given Eve after sinning: "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel." (Genesis 3:15)

Satan figured that the only way he could prevent this - his total destruction and defeat - from ever coming true was to prevent the developping of that seed! This is what he did by contaminated the human seed with his seed. God could never fulfill His plan of salvation, which this verse speaks of and is God's promise right after the all of men. That seed God promised in Genesis 3:15 is Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God!

So, you see God's grace in the absolute necessaity of killing all flesh with the exception of Noah!

As for the other killings by God, similar explanations can be given. God kills to redeem! God ALWAYS LOOKS AT THE BIGGER PICTURE, THE GREATER PURPOSE.

Satan murders out of hatred, as we were created in the image of God. Satan hates God and therefore satan hates us. He knows God loves us, so that murdering people is the way to hurt God.

I stand in awe of God, when I consider this! His infinite wisdom!

Knowing this, I consider all these accusations of people of God for His killings such folly. They have no idea. But they have such a big mouth...these created beings against their Maker!

In addition: God's grace is also visible in the fact that sin resulted in death! Sin brought death into the earth!

Death is an act of grace by God for if God had allowed men to live for ever, this earth would have been hell! It would have meant sin would have been perpetual.

Thank God all men die since sin came into the world by Adam and Eve.

God's plan from the beginning was to create men to be with Him for ever! But since men chose to disobey Him, and sin - go their own way, do their own thing - God had to make the penalty of sin: DEATH! For He can not allow sin to exist for ever!

This proves God's unlimited wisdom, and also His LOVE!

In the end death will be thrown into the Lake that Burns with Fire and Brimstone! (Rev. 21:8)

On top of this: He provided the sacrifice in His very own only begotten Son of God to die for us, paying the penalty for our sin, so by His resurrection from the dead, He overcame death and opened the way for us to be reconciled with God, to be forgiven and to be free from the penalty of sin, the second death (Rev. 21:8) and live with Him for ever, as He had intended from the beginning! All we have to do now I call upon Him, repent of our sins, our unbelief, our rejection of Him, our going our own way, and ask His forgiveness and that He makes us His child, lets us be born -again, and destroys the plan of satan with our lives and releases His plan for our lives, and teaches us to walk with Him, commune with Him - for He is not dead, but He is alive and wants to have fellowship with us. For ever! John 1:12,13; John 3. John 14:6. Acts 2:38; Acts 4:12. 2 Corinthians 5: 17; Galations 6:15; etc.

dutchlionfrans "Frans", Amazon 43 Comments [9/29/2014 3:19:14 AM]
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Quote# 84849

On June 4, Nashville, Tenn., police responded to a complaint regarding traveling evangelist and self-proclaimed “prophetess” Glynis Bethel, who had allegedly pepper-sprayed a woman who was protesting her anti-gay preaching. When an officer moved in to arrest Bethel, she pepper-sprayed him, too.

Out on bond three days later, Bethel posted a press release accusing police of violating her First, Second, Fourth and 14th Amendment rights. “I would prefer to be beaten and to die than to allow these wicked and evil Nashville police officers and white racist bigots to get away with breaking the laws they are supposed to be upholding,” wrote Bethel, who is black. “Romans Chapter 13 states that it is our duty to bear the sword upon evil doers and this Bible scripture doesn’t exempt corrupt po-lice.”

The prophetess, who with her husband, “Apostle” Orlando Bethel, leads the Baldwin County, Ala.-based Repent or Burn in Hell Ministries, is a well-known figure in certain circles in the southeastern United States. Together with their three teenage children (who are the ministry’s only members), the Bethels travel from town to town, denouncing “sinners” and exploring the outer limits of their First Amendment rights. Their self-described “fire and brimstone” preaching, which especially targets gay people, along with “fornicators,” “whoremongers” and abortion clinics, has led to countless arrests – usually on charges of disorderly conduct, protesting without a permit or public obscenity. “It’s a curse,” Orlando Bethel said of homosexuality in an interview posted on YouTube. “It’s just like a disease, leprosy. It’s something that’s used as a judgment of God on a person because, basically, of their rebellion against him.”

Not surprisingly, the Bethels are often compared to Kansas’ much-reviled Westboro Baptist Church, which is best known for picketing funerals with signs captioned with insults such as “God Hates Fags” and, like Repent or Burn in Hell Ministries, is largely composed of a single family. But while Westboro — whose ranks include a number of highly skilled lawyers who recently won a First Amendment case in the Supreme Court — limits its legal crusade to free speech rights, the Bethels (who do not possess law degrees but are experienced pro se litigators) take a more expansive view of how the Constitution protects their right to evangelize.

“It says ‘the right to keep and bear arms,’” Orlando Bethel told the Intelligence Report in a reference to the Second Amendment. “Not keep it in your closet. To bear it.” Complaining about the Baldwin County sheriff’s denial of his wife’s 2009 petition for a concealed carry permit, supposedly on the grounds that she had a “grievance with government,” he said, “I thought that was funny because that was the original intent of the Second Amendment.”

It is exactly this kind of language that worries Baldwin County Sheriff Huey “Hoss” Mack, who has been dealing with the Bethels since they arrived about 10 years ago. At first, Mack told the Report, the ministry seemed little more than a nuisance. But, he said, “It has escalated. The amount of aggravation and the amount of contact with public officials as well as those in the legal system has increased and [they have] become more confrontational. … There is a legitimate concern that if it continues to escalate, how far will it go?”

Glynis & Orlando Bethel, Southern Poverty Law Center 65 Comments [11/18/2011 10:44:22 AM]
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Quote# 27410

Adolf Hitler is was a member of the Illuminati, a part of the group the Thule Society, and wasn't a strict adheranent to Christianity. History is written by the victors, and the victors of that war was the Illuminati, who got to write a whole bunch of text books claiming he was a Christian, because he must have gone to church once and a while, and quoted Scripture.

GoodNewsJournalist, Christian Forums 35 Comments [7/19/2007 4:33:11 PM]
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Quote# 14328

[Apparently, all evolutionists are neonazis.]

"To put it simply, no Darwin, no Hitler,” said Dr. Kennedy, the host of Darwin’s Deadly Legacy. “Hitler tried to speed up evolution, to help it along, and millions suffered and died in unspeakable ways because of it."

D. James Kennedy, Darwin's Deadly Legacy 33 Comments [8/29/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 38622

[JesusFreak, after her astounding success with the number of ribs women have, has more well thought out answers to pressing questions]

Question: Do you think that those who don't believe just don't understand the bible?
Answer: i think some people wouldnt believe if God slapped them in the face... they're just that stubborn...
and evolution... my mom has seen arceologists find something that would disprove something, and throw it a way to protect themselves...

Q: What happened to the other angels who agreed with lucifer?
A: God gave lucifer 1/3 of his angles (his demons).

Q: What is the difference between an Orthodox Christian and a born again Christian?
A: born again christians love God, orthodox is kinda... well my parents did it so i do it.

Q: If one is born gay would God still put them to hell?
A: I believe that gay is a passed on sin from parents, yes God does punish parents with their children, but you can turn back from it, you just have to want to.

JesusFreak, Y! Answers 42 Comments [5/2/2008 8:54:15 PM]
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Quote# 24574

myspaceinvader | May 01, 2007
Perhaps you haven't noticed MakeAFist.. An Atheist brain is laidened with absolute filth and garbage.
So in order to communicate with them and for them to understand anything you must use filth, and then subtely add a few intelligent words inbetween otherwise the message doesn't quite sink into their heads. Theres a reason behind it!
Just listen to the cheap insults that Dawkins throws and watch how the crowds all cheer in orgasmic rapture and you'll see what I mean.
Sure do unto others, I'm not expecting any atheists here to start respecting me if I am loving towards them. I know speaking as a former Atheist no matter how kindly you speak they have no respect for religious beliefs whatsoever. They would sooner smite at all religious figures and dismiss them all as false than ever amounting to any level of understanding.
In other words they are complete assholes.

myspaceinvader, YouTube 41 Comments [5/2/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 116629


on People born of rape

I was watching a show with my parents recently, where a guy in highschool (I think) tried to kill a man because he raped the kid's mother so long ago. The mother didn't press charges, and was apparently just trying to forget the whole thing happened. eventually he found out after questioning who his father was, and afterwards starts plotting murder.

I asked my parents why they think someone would do something like that. My dad said that if the mother isn't happy, no one is happy. In a tone of voice that made me think he didn't want to talk any more about it.

That doesn't really make sense to me, though. The mother is reasonably happy. Nothing good would come out of killing the guy because there was no evidence that the man was a repeat offender. He said himself that it was a mistake and he was sorry about it.

The main thing I'm curious about is why would someone be so furious at a guy for bringing them into the world? Sure it was illegal, but I didn't have reason to believe his life was so crappy. Even if it was, suicide would be better than murder.

You might be able to just say he wasn't thinking rationally, and that's just that. Or maybe I'm thinking too deeply about something that's supposed to make the attempted murderer sympathetic.


Why would a person be violently angry at someone when that someone gave them life, even if it was through illegal means? I could understand if it was about other things, like if the guy was still after his mother or something like that, or if he was still raping other people. But the kid was angry at a guy that raped someone, that caused him to be born. Personally I think I'd cut the guy some slack if my life wasn't too bad.

Chad, Zelda Universe 20 Comments [2/6/2016 6:52:23 PM]
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Quote# 40038

Kieffe and Sons, a California Ford dealership, decided for some reason to launch a radio ad attacking non-Christians and people who believe that prayer shouldn't be in public schools. Audio and transcript of the ad, inside.

"Did you know that there are people in this country who want prayer out of schools, "Under God" out of the Pledge, and "In God We Trust" to be taken off our money?

But did you know that 86% of Americans say they believe in God? Now, since we all know that 86 out of every 100 of us are Christians who believe in God, we at Kieffe & Sons Ford wonder why we don't just tell the other 14% to sit down and shut up. I guess maybe I just offended 14% of the people who are listening to this message. Well, if that is the case, then I say that's tough, this is America folks, it's called free speech. And none of us at Kieffe & Sons Ford are afraid to speak up. Kieffe & Sons Ford on Sierra Highway in Mojave and Rosamond: if we don't see you today, by the grace of God, we'll be here tomorrow."

California Ford Dealership Ad, Consumerist.com 69 Comments [5/28/2008 8:13:53 PM]
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Quote# 3918

THEY, the itty bitty tiny infitestimal snotty band of atheists, deists, and anti Americans, with word processors and left wing, ideologists in the judiciary have perverted the nation.

Bruce S, Christian Forums 7 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 51711

*obama*

I don't like a man, who has talked about "spreading the wealth," calling on me to "sacrifice." Not after his "spread the wealth" comment and his views of life.

What kind of sacrifice does he want from me?!

Now, God calling me to sacrifice. That's something different.

Ashleigh, RR 25 Comments [11/8/2008 9:10:17 PM]
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Quote# 16165

A change in allele frequencies is definately NOT evolution. What that kind of change does is allow you to breed all different kinds of dogs. But you'll never end up with anything except a dog. If you really want to prove me wrong, then reference me to a dog breeder that's bred anything except a dog. They all have the same basic body plan, and they aren't about to change into anything new. In fact, the more you selectively breed a type, the worse off it is. Dogs are more susceptible to diseases, they have body deformations (which in some cases is kind of cute, but my dog has to blow snot out of its face every five seconds because its face is flat).

What you want is for NEW genes to be pushed into the gene pool. Simply reshuffling existing alleles isn't going to help. Try it with a deck of cards. Keep reshuffling the deck and dealing hands of three. You can get all sorts of different combinations, but eventually you run out of unique combinations, unless you can throw in a card that's never been seen.

IrishFarmer, CARM 27 Comments [10/20/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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