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Hell, just go to Detroit or Chicago. Plenty of it there.

That aside, Pop Sci lost me when it sold out to the Gorebull Warming myth. As for the subject, wanna know WHY there's an obsession with finding dark matter? Here's the undiscussed reason: they are desperate to find something that supports the notion of an endlessly cycling universe of Big Bangs and Big Crunches, so that Event One can become just the latest in an infinite series rather than the one and only Big Bang.

If they can find enough "dark matter" to add its gravity to "light" matter, they can show that the universe will ultimately stop expanding and collapse into itself. They can then reject the necessity of God as the Prime Mover of creation. In short, it's a way to justify atheism.

Old saying: the closer we get to the beginning of the universe, the closer we are to looking into the face of God. Atheists are hoping beyond hope that when we get there, we will see nothing and no One.

DoctorDoom, Where Liberty Dwells 52 Comments [11/14/2013 4:11:48 AM]
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Or, maybe, it's actually truth and not an attempt to get rid of God. Think about it.

11/14/2013 4:33:29 AM


So are you, in fact, admitting that if scientists do, in fact, discover dark matter, that there is, in fact, no God?

11/14/2013 4:36:19 AM

Tricky Fox

your god lives in the gaps science hasn't explained.

just wait until we weed him out.

11/14/2013 4:51:20 AM


Do you really think that theoretical physicists give two shits about somehow disproving the existence of God?

I assure you, they're too busy trying to find and explore new physics to give a damn one way or another about questions of theology.

11/14/2013 4:57:40 AM

Qazamir McSmarty Britches

As for the subject, wanna know WHY there's an obsession with finding dark matter?

Maybe for the same reason they are "obsessed" about anything.


Something fundies seem to fear above all else. And what's worse is you guys aren't satisfied with denying yourself knowledge, you try and prevent others from learning because you are sooo terrified that your worldview will be proven wrong, and that people will stop listening to you.

11/14/2013 5:08:43 AM


I have a picture in my head of Neal DeGrasse Tyson face-palming right now.

11/14/2013 5:29:11 AM


Why? Because they want to learn new things and hopefully use it to the benefit of humankind.

I have news for you, Doc Dumb; they have alreday rejected the necessity of any gods as - well - anything. Atheism needs no justification, it's a relationship with reality.

11/14/2013 5:37:04 AM

Jessie's Guitarist

DoctorDick returns! And he still doesn't understand science (SCIENCE!)!

11/14/2013 5:46:23 AM


An ekpyrotic universe does not disprove any god(s).

11/14/2013 5:50:38 AM

Doubting Thomas

Here's a hint: Science long ago realized that God is not part of the equation. Science is going where the evidence takes it, not trying to "justify atheism."

11/14/2013 6:04:58 AM


There's no "obsession with finding dark matter," they've already found it, by accident. They now need to figure out what it consists of.

11/14/2013 6:12:44 AM

Mister Spak

"If they can find enough "dark matter" to add its gravity to "light" matter, they can show that the universe will ultimately stop expanding and collapse into itself."

Dark energy. Try to keep up.

"Atheists are hoping beyond hope that when we get there, we will see nothing and no One."

Fundies are hoping against hope that they will find a god in that gap.

11/14/2013 6:13:49 AM


Global warming isn't real? Quick, someone tell the icecaps! They keep melting as if global warming exists.

As for the subject, wanna know WHY there's an obsession with finding dark matter?

The same reason there was an "obsession" with finding the Higgs Boson, quarks, atoms, DNA, extrasolar planets, etc.: to increase the knowledge of mankind and to get recognized for your contribution. If you're too cynical to believe that could motivate anyone, the Nobel Prize is kind of a good motivator.

11/14/2013 7:11:44 AM


Fuck you moron.

(sorry, but I'm getting tried of these brain-dead types with their absolutely stupid crap)

Dark matter is one suggested solution to the mystery of missing material in the universe. Indeed, I heard on Christian scientist (not the Mary Baker Eddy crowd, but the oxymoron) suggest that the discovery of real dark matter will support intelligent design.

Stupid all the way around.

11/14/2013 7:33:01 AM


DoctorDoom: consistently blurring the line between "delusional" and "trolling" since 2009.

11/14/2013 8:15:17 AM

Thinking Allowed

Ok, my brain hurts now.

11/14/2013 8:22:07 AM

Pule Thamex

Ah ha! They're running scared now, as the more we learn about reality the further away from bogus fantasy drivel we get.

But no Doctor, your conjecture that scientists, by their efforts, hope to justify atheism is obviously absurd. If scientists' work does make life more tricky for theists, who after all are already over their ears in numpty apologetics, and shows atheism in a better light, then it's just a happy accident.

In any case, atheism does not need science to justify itself, we have the Bible for that. Doctor, I urge you to read it, you'll be an instant atheist.

11/14/2013 8:25:42 AM


Science is unconcerned with your god. He is irrelevant.

11/14/2013 8:38:14 AM


How do you know that the scientists at CERN aren't generating Dark Matter via the Large Hadron Collider...?!

Just a thought, Duckturd Dumb...! [/CTSTDT] >:D

...oh, and Boston Strong, you terrorist-lover.

11/14/2013 8:42:47 AM


DoctorDumb, what does The Big Bang have to do with Al Gore & Global Warming?

Also, as a now-eclectic NeoPagan spiritual Pantheist, I personally believe what the dark matter would prove....that the universe eternally creates, sustains, dissolves & recreates again...like the mythical phoenix.

Since, in my worldview...Divine, Material, Mental & Spiritual are all aspects of the same thing in a Qualified Monist whole, dark matter won't affect my spiritual walk one iota!

The sooner the Orthodox Abrahamic worldview dies, the better!

11/14/2013 8:55:00 AM

Gimpo Pop Eyes

How far off the beaten track has DoctorDoom wandered? He's now so deluded, confused, frustrated and probably angry that he thinks scientists are concerned about prating witch-doctors and their like.

11/14/2013 9:30:43 AM

Jasper Spotty-Butt

Where ever Liberty dwells, it's certainly not anywhere between the ears of DoctorDoom.

11/14/2013 9:34:17 AM


re. God: "The model works without that assumption." - Pierre-Simon Laplace (1749-1827)

One need not justify a negative. You can try to shift the burden of proof all you want, but it's your invisible super-friend that requires justification.

11/14/2013 9:40:52 AM


God of the Gaps, part 2,134,341.

11/14/2013 9:41:34 AM

Hasan Prishtina

So if your faith in God can be toppled by what scientists discover. Not much of a belief in God, is it?

11/14/2013 9:45:16 AM

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