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First, let us note that in Israel in Jesus' day the Rabbis at the local synagogue taught the children. So, Jesus was not taught as a boy by women, nor did He submit to them, other than his mother in biblical respect. Hillary's village did NOT raise the kids-- the godly men did.

Second, we must ask when a boy becomes a man. If that is at about age 13, then a boy over 13 should not be taught formally by a woman other than his mother who is under the headship of her husband, the boy's Dad. I see no problem with a young child being taught by a godly woman. Of course, there are none in the Public Schools of the United States, for if they were godly, they would stay at home. So, if you have a godly lady who tutors your young child, and if you, sir, are in charge of the whole format and content, I see no problem.

Third, where a boy is under a woman teacher in a public school, that boy must be warned not to allow that woman to teach him ANYTHING other than cold facts of Math and History etc. The father of the boy must go to the school and demand that the Principal not allow the woman teacher to teach ANY moral or spiritual principles to his son. This applies to the alleged "Christian School" also.

Fourth, if this cannot be obeyed and accomplished through the public OR church school, then the father must bring his son home to be taught at home. Whatever he learns at home, the son will not be confounded in his zeal to be a man before God.

Steve Van Nattan , Blessed Quietness Journal 25 Comments [10/3/2013 3:23:47 AM]
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Hasan Prishtina

1) There was no such place as Israel in Jesus's time. It was the Herodian Tetrarchy of Judaea, then the Roman province of Judaea.
2) Rabbis in those days had normal jobs like everyone else; Rabbi Hillel, for example, was a woodcutter. I would agree that he would have been formally educated by men, but it would seem strange were female members of the extended family, such as Saint Elizabeth or Saint Anne not involved.
3) A boy should learn nothing from a woman who is not his mother. Well, no higher education for you, young man. Better learn to accept that your career will be to greet people at Walmart.

10/3/2013 3:48:34 AM

Arthur Lager

Sounds like a recipe for bringing up the most bigoted, obnoxious and misogynistic flipper in the whole burger joint.

Just what America needs.

10/3/2013 4:05:02 AM

anothga

In other words, father must insist on his child or children being indoctrinated into Christianity?

10/3/2013 4:14:00 AM

gimel

I'm missing a bit on the context here, so I've got a question. What the hell is this guy's problem with female teachers? I mean it. Also, what about widowed/orphaned families?

10/3/2013 4:24:15 AM

Justanotheratheist

Steve Van Nutten would be a more apropriate name for this lunatic.

10/3/2013 4:31:43 AM

John_in_Oz

90 percent of all abuse takes place in the home.

10/3/2013 4:50:32 AM

fishtank

This is why my country has compulsory education and takes your kids away if you do such foolery.

10/3/2013 5:04:11 AM

Jim T

Actually, the part about children not being taught any moral or spiritual teachings I can pretty much get behind.
Not because of women teachers, of course. Just in general.

10/3/2013 5:12:35 AM

Doubting Thomas

if they were godly, they would stay at home.

Tell me again how fundamentalist Christianity isn't misogynist?

that boy must be warned not to allow that woman to teach him ANYTHING other than cold facts of Math and History etc. The father of the boy must go to the school and demand that the Principal not allow the woman teacher to teach ANY moral or spiritual principles to his son.

Good luck with that. Way to make your kid be ostracized by the rest of the class when you don't allow the teacher to teach him how to get along with other students.

Whatever he learns at home, the son will not be confounded in his zeal to be a man before God.

And that's what it's about, isn't it? Keeping your kid home so he can be brainwashed without any outside influences.

10/3/2013 5:29:55 AM

Matante

So this is like the Talibans, except it's the boys who get hidden away from society not to be corrupted by women?
Doesn't sound really better. Stay away from kids.

10/3/2013 5:33:07 AM

Mister Spak



10/3/2013 5:39:24 AM

Sangfroid

Let us note that in Israel in Jesus’s day, circumcision was performed with a bronze knife by a semi-trained mohel with no hygiene and no pain-killers. Kind of makes you wonder how many circumcisions accidentally turned in a penectomy (which may also explain why Jesus never got married).

Since Steve is so hot to stick with bronze age theories of gender and morality, maybe he had his circumcision in the backyard with a shard of metal, and the mohel went for the wrong head.

It's the only way I can accept that a sentient being could actually write that mess.

10/3/2013 6:17:58 AM

Deep Search

"The father of the boy must go to the school and demand that the Principal not allow the woman teacher to teach ANY moral or spiritual principles to his son."

Wow. No lessons on why sharing is good or discussions on the moral of a story? I'd hope the school would inform a "concerned parent" as to why this is not okay. Feel sorry for any child who has a sick, nutball parent who would even consider such shit.

10/3/2013 7:28:53 AM

dionysus

Go for it. Take your kids out of those evil, liberal colleges where women are allowed to be human beings. That only makes it easier for my kids to get into college and make successes of themselves and become your kids' bosses. Don't worry, they're all boys so you won't have to worry about them submitting to a woman. Unless they hire a female manager >:)

10/3/2013 7:53:57 AM

JohnTheAtheist

Holy fuck.

10/3/2013 8:04:09 AM

Alencon

Not to worry. The schools have too much to do already without worrying about "moral or spiritual principles" beyond "be polite."

10/3/2013 8:41:29 AM

Thinking Allowed

Back in Jesus' day, you had to be part of the 1% in order to afford education. Otherwise illiteracy was the norm.

10/3/2013 10:39:48 AM

Liberal Christian

Sexist moron.

10/3/2013 11:30:14 AM

freako104

So basically you want males to only learn from men. This won't go over well

10/3/2013 11:43:03 AM

JGC

"Whatever he learns at home, the son will not be confounded in his zeal to be a man before God"

You say that like it would be a bad thing...why?

10/3/2013 11:56:06 AM

Old Viking

You're going to have to work hard on the practical aspects of this scheme.

10/3/2013 1:52:47 PM

Sasha

I foresee the son becoming one of Romney's 47%.

10/3/2013 6:25:12 PM

OiNutter!

Yeah the old home school thing again. Just what the news channels need, another teacher sex scandal.

10/3/2013 9:44:11 PM



WHO FUCKING CARES?

10/4/2013 5:07:25 PM



Fifth, there were no schools in then Israel at Jesus's times(and nowhere else of the known world, for that matter)as we understand them today. Rabbis were not teachers, except, sometimes, for other rabbis. Indeed, they have normal jobs, such as, for example, merchant or even shepperds. So?

10/6/2013 5:54:57 AM

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