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Atheism and deism aren't the same thing.
8/20/2012 5:43:09 AM
Atheists also don't have a problem with the possibility of Allah existing. Or Zeus, or Thor, or Ganesh, or oogabooga the african rain god.
PS. look up the definition of atheist before you post so you don't look like a dumbass.
8/20/2012 5:48:51 AM
The jesus of the bible is a *fictional* character and you're a fucking retard.
8/20/2012 5:52:20 AM
To quote another great man of history: "I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
8/20/2012 5:56:34 AM
Actually, I prefer Jesus to old testament God. Also, a number of denominations of Christianity believe that you can be wrong about Jesus and still get to heaven because Jesus washed away everyone's sins.
8/20/2012 6:03:31 AM
I agree with the first sentence. But after that that argument falls flat on its face.
8/20/2012 6:09:13 AM
Filin De Blanc
You seriously think the Jesus described in the Bible is going to applaud the life you spent doing nothing but scoffing at everyone else and never lifting a finger to help them? What was that in the Bible about how prostitutes and tax collectors will inherit the kingdom of God ahead of the holier-than-thou religious leaders?
8/20/2012 6:18:49 AM
I don't have a problem with god or jesus. In te same way, I don't have a problem with harry potter, Bella from twilight, or my little pony.
What I do have a problem with is you smug fucking fundies telling everyone what they should believe, wat they should watch on TV, what they should wear, and who they can fuck.
8/20/2012 6:33:59 AM
and for the record, suppose YOU are wrong about god and jesusn maybe you've lived a good life regardless. (despite being a judgemental idiot)
Now, suppose you're also wrong about Allah. What if, when you flash your cosmic card key at the pearly gates, you're greeted not by Peter, but the prophet Muhammhed? And suppose e decides to punish you for not following the holy Quran?
sounds ridiculous, right? Totally stupid? Abject dreck?
Well, that's how you dumbasses sound to me when you threaten me with punishment by deities I don't believe in.
8/20/2012 6:38:25 AM
"Contrary to what they claim atheists really don't have a problem with the possibility of God existing.
I have never claimed I had a problem with a god existing. For all I know, many gods exist.
What I have a problem with is the Christian god (and others that I'm familiar with) existing simply because there's no fucking evidence for it. I see no reason why a god--or something that we would understand as such--couldn't exist somewhere, but it sure as hell isn't interacting with us and I also see no reason to worship something that might exist and, if it does, doesn't seem to want or need me to worship it. The actual likelihood of any sort of entity existing that actually is a god is very, very low I would think, and probably zero.
"It's Jesus that they despise and for good reason."
I don't despise Jesus; I think he didn't exist as your Wholly Babble describes him. Someone--or a few someones that were later combined into the Biblical Jesus figure--probably existed, had a small following, taught some things, and so on. They, however, were not a demigod, almost certainly weren't as influential as the Bible would like me to believe, and probably didn't say or do nearly anything that the Bible records them as doing.
"If they are wrong about God, as taught by any other religion, they are still OK because they try to be 'good people' and have nothing to worry about."
You haven't actually examined other religions very thoroughly, have you?
"But wrong about Jesus?
That depends entirely on which version of Christianity is the right one, doesn't it?
8/20/2012 7:12:25 AM
What part of atheism don't you understand, Davey?
I'd say Jesus would be more OK with someone trying to be "good people", than the OT God.
OT God had a whole buch of rules he wanted his subjects to follow, many of which have nothing to do with being "good people".
8/20/2012 7:13:10 AM
I do not doubt that a man whose name translates into English as "Jesus" existed around the time and place that the Bible stories are set. I do not believe the myths of a god-man, miracle working person who became a zombie.
8/20/2012 7:33:43 AM
If anything, I would have no problem with Jesus, as a mortal, human philosopher, existing, because his teachings were pretty decent. It's your god that I have major issues with. Jesus is also a problem if you state that he was the supernatural rape-child of your god.
8/20/2012 7:49:19 AM
The Crimson Ghost
So you think I don't have a problem with god but I DO have a problem with his dead son-who is also part god. That makes perfect sense...after suffering severe head trauma.
Dave-do you ever read what you type? Or listen to yourself talk? My parrot makes more sense when he chirps & squawks. Probably has better manners & hygiene too.
8/20/2012 7:50:13 AM
Another sick, miserable, pup who casually condemns the countless billions of people who heard about Jesus in passing or not at all. The poor thing is a willing slave to people who have been dead for centuries.
8/20/2012 7:54:07 AM
Please do not claim to represent my beliefs.
8/20/2012 8:16:49 AM
Fundies Make Me Sick
You seem to take pleasure in the thought of atheists experiencing eternal torment. Get psychological counseling you sadistic, sociopathic prick.
8/20/2012 8:20:26 AM
Raised by Horses
I bet that sounded really clever in your head.
8/20/2012 8:28:44 AM
But Dave-o- you're the one who's wrong about Jesus.
8/20/2012 8:34:53 AM
No, dave-o, it's the reverse. Most Atheists (and sane,rational, open-minded, Theists & Deists) have no problem with Jesus, they have a problem with "Raging Fundie-Gawd".
Ghandi said it best, as poster, UHM states.
As far as The Bible goes, the New Testament is a lot saner & Jesus was a good guy.
8/20/2012 9:04:24 AM
I don't have a problem with god or Jesus. I just don't believe that either exist. What I do have a problem with is douchebags like dave-o here, the followers of these imaginary beings.
8/20/2012 9:08:37 AM
Why is it fundies are so sure that they know what atheists REALLY believe? Evidently the very concept is too much for their tiny minds.
8/20/2012 9:30:11 AM
Wait.. so you don't have to be a good person as long as you're a believer in Jesus? Speaks about you, your god amd why I'm not a believer. Also learn what atheism is.
8/20/2012 9:47:56 AM
Actualy dave-o, we dont even despise Jesus.
We just worry that the loons who want to force us to worship him, might resort to violence again.
8/20/2012 9:57:28 AM
You have no idea what atheists believe. Stop lying. Your gods don't like that.
8/20/2012 10:10:29 AM
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