The funny thing about science is that you don't have to accept it without question. You can question it all you like. Go to the library and pick up a book on it, or look up talk.origins. It's only the religious who think that asking questions is bad (e.g. the Texas GOP, which believes that critical thinking in schools is bad as it undermines parental authority).
8/15/2012 3:32:56 AM
Good old runner.
I got banned from that site for making non-abusive fun of climate change clown Christopher Monckton, so you can guess the calibre of informed discussion the site is trying to foster.
8/15/2012 3:38:43 AM
"To think that people are so dumbed down to accept such ardent statements as fact without questions shows how much we have devolved in our thinking"
You can question them all you like but you rather need to know something about them first.
"The reason so many are miserable and addidcted to anti depressants is simply because the god deniers have had their dogmas implemented into society. It has led to depression, family breakdown, child abuse and drug addiction."
THE HUMAN MIND DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT! Evolution is too abstract a concept to sink into the psyche and affect our internal perceptions of the world. That thing you Christians preach though, about how we're all wretched sinners only deserving of torment? That sinks in just fine.
"Someone who describes the past so inaccurately as the author has little chance of offering answers for the future."
Oh, fuck off, you utter moron.
8/15/2012 3:52:00 AM
The writing style sounds like it was originally written in another language, then put through a "free online translator" into English.
8/15/2012 4:25:31 AM
>Someone who describes the past so inaccurately as the author has little chance of offering answers for the future.
Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't realise that you were there, and thus obviously have more information on the topic than leading biologists. Please, expound.
8/15/2012 4:44:49 AM
Someone who describes reality so inaccurately as the author has little chance of offering answers for the future.
8/15/2012 5:26:02 AM
No, the reason so many people are miserable and addicted to antidepressants is because this "Great Designer" didn't design their brains very well. In fact, he didn't design anything very well. Why would this so-called "Great Designer" design parasites, pests, and horrible diseases?
8/15/2012 5:27:21 AM
Yeah, those two creation stories in Genesis are much more believable, and they have so much more evidence.
8/15/2012 5:38:31 AM
@Doubting Thomas: Oh, he didn't, wouldn't, of course; all that is descent into pain and strife since the fall. Or alternately, he works in mysterious ways. That also explains why he designed parts of our body in ways that would get any first-year engineering student ridiculed.
I can hear runner's rant all the way from Down Under. They must really be projecting.
8/15/2012 5:45:31 AM
dionysusAnd the next chapter of the fairy tale is?
I don't know, something about a talking snake? Oh wait, you're talking about science. That ain't a fairy tale and the Oxygen Catastrophe
where the majority of life on Earth was wiped out is no fairy tale ending.
To think that people are so dumbed down to accept such ardent statements as fact without questions shows how much we have devolved in our thinking.
Actually, I had numerous questions about that time period and I looked up the answers. You merely rejected it without question. Who's the dogmatic one now?
Only those totally blinded by evolution dogma fail to see the Great Designer of this planet.
Many Buddhists don't see a designer. And numerous Christians accept ToE. So your assertion is false from both sides.
The reason so many are miserable and addidcted to anti depressants is simply because the god deniers have had their dogmas implemented into society. It has led to depression, family breakdown, child abuse and drug addiction.
And I supposed Christians never do drugs or beat their kids. Numerous posts in the top 100 on this site show that the latter is sadly and horribly untrue.
Someone who describes the past so inaccurately as the author has little chance of offering answers for the future.
So the book about talking snakes, donkeys, and the Sun standing still in the sky is pretty much SOL then.
8/15/2012 5:58:52 AM
It helps to know before you spout off your crap
8/15/2012 7:27:10 AM
I like how he says only a fool would accept the statement without questioning, but doesn't bother to supply any of the questions supposedly raised by it. Hey runner, maybe you could try actually making some kind of argument against evoultion instead of just saying "it's clearly wrong, only idiots would disagree with me."
8/15/2012 7:44:08 AM
There is a local and very controversial Christian addiction "clinic". The first thing they do when someone checks in, after confirming that they are pious enough to be accepted in said program, is to send them to a quack who prescribes antidepressant and anti anxiety medication whether the victim is diagnosed with clinical depression and anxiety disorders or not. Anyone who refuses the medication or displays any doubts about the religious indoctrination are booted from the program.
8/15/2012 8:01:01 AM
If the great designer wanted to design the planet better, he'd probably have given us better power sources than fossil fuels which are creating the hottest summers in recorded history.
8/15/2012 8:10:41 AM
8/15/2012 8:40:31 AM
dionysus: "And I supposed Christians never do drugs or beat their kids. Numerous posts in the top 100 on this site show that the latter is sadly and horribly untrue."
Well, that's just putting them in their place and exerting parental authority, not abuse. Obviously. The real child abuse is tey gheyz raising children that to most people's eyes would appear to be completely normal but whom the Real Christians know are psychologically and physically tormented every day. Because that's how every single gay person gets their kicks.
8/15/2012 9:15:13 AM
Is evidence that hard of a concept to grasp?
8/15/2012 9:57:18 AM
"And the next chapter of the fairy tale is? To think that people are so dumbed down to accept such ardent statements as fact without questions shows how much we have devolved in our thinking. Only those totally blinded by evolution dogma fail to see the Great Designer of this planet."
Hey fuckwit? What he said is backed up by the entire fossil record and two centuries of scientific research. Not a single iota of evidence contradicts evolution, and only those blinded and retarded by worthless religion fail to see the obvious truth of it.
As for the rest; typical bullshit from a moronic Christ-tard. The rates of depression and drug use, as well as violent crime, are miniscule in secular, mostly atheist societies like Sweden, Norway, and Japan.
8/15/2012 11:52:01 AM
It has led to depression, family breakdown, child abuse and drug addiction.
Yup, belief in evolution is a bummer. They forgot other results like bed wetting, acne, obsessive masturbation, tax evasion, pre-marital sex, shop lifting, abortion, homosexuality, mass murder, and drinking bottled water.
Worst of all, however, are the resulting thought crimes: higher education, differentiated and critical thought patterns, knowledge, logic, and a broader world view: disgusting!
8/15/2012 12:47:52 PM
You better check the statistics that show what a teeny percentage of the population atheists, aka "God deniers" are, before you go blaming them for depression and other ills of society.
You might want to look into the whole Catholic-priests-as-child-abusers thing, also. They weren't God deniers, last I heard.
8/15/2012 1:29:10 PM
There is no single Great Designer. There is a committee of 15 Great Designers. That's why things are so forked up.
8/15/2012 1:42:12 PM
Just going to point out a few things first I know atleast with mormons you should ask questions about the religion and second have any of you ever had an experience you thought you would remember badly but then fondly remember.
8/15/2012 4:00:42 PM
The Great Designer made over 99.99999% of the Universe uninhabitable for any living thing. You'd think He'd be ashamed.
If He had any honesty, He'd be calling Himself the "Not so Great" Designer.
8/15/2012 5:32:40 PM
Filin De Blanc
It always amazes me how people can call evolution a fairy tale when their own "theory" involves the snake losing its legs for dishonesty, which is exactly like something out of Rudyard Kipling.
8/15/2012 5:46:22 PM
So the designer intends that massive death toll of fires, tornadoes, cyclones, tidal waves, volcanic eruptions, mudslides etc. ?
Tell me again about that kind and loving God who only wants whats best for his creation.
8/16/2012 9:14:54 AM