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Formal prayer has been taken out of our schools. How about this idea? Read from the book of Proverbs from the Bible. Proverbs is a book of wisdom. Proverbs is in the Holy Scriptures for Christians and Jews. As for other religions — the wisdom won’t do them any harm. This nation was built on Christian and Jewish values and the Bible was actually used in the classrooms in our early days. To toss the very foundation on which our country was built because of political correctness is wrong and we see the results in society today. I say have a reading out of Proverbs each day in our classrooms. What do you think?

Rep. Debbie Riddle, TFN Insider 219 Comments [8/3/2012 3:33:37 AM]
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#1431223
His4Life

Anon, I put your faith in quotes because it is a deviation from an ancient tradition and could basically be categorized as a modern cult. It's based on the teachings of rabbis and zionists, not the Bible. Sorry if this offended you.

8/5/2012 9:07:23 PM

#1431225
His4Life

Also, I'm not "gleeful" about anyone being sentenced to hell. But I'm not going to sugar coat reality either. How do you think Ben Franklin feels now that his lard ass has been burning for more than 200 years? I doubt he cares about any treaty of tripoli at this point. He's probably just wondering if he'll ever taste a drop of water, if he's even capable of wondering anything at all. :p

8/5/2012 9:14:56 PM

#1431226
His4Life

And to be honest Ben Franklin is one guy I do not feel sorry for. He's held up as an American hero but he was a disgusting human being. Speaking of slavery, he was a huge proponent of the slave trade and when his ass got too fat for him to walk on his own, he actually had slaves haul his butt around on a dais like some kind of king. I hear fat fries real good. I'm sure this "great scholar" is just as unintelligible now amid his inane babbling and screams for water as Christian 'dogma' was to him. I can guarantee you wouldn't want to be anywhere near this burning pile of refuse or his atheist pal Thomas Jefferson. Too bad for him, huh?

8/5/2012 9:17:01 PM

#1431230
Firewing

Funny.

The one who is blind to reality due to sheer arrogance talking about sugar-coating reality. If you really wanted to avoid doing so, you would own up to the depravity of your religion.

I did not imply that non-Christian cultures weren't practicing slavery. That is still no excuse for Christians to continue their Biblical "heroes'" practice of it, nor justification for it.

And for a Christian, you're terrible at denial. You say in one sentence you're not enjoying the thought of someone suffering eternal torment, but no more than two sentences later your schadenfreude is plain as day.

8/5/2012 9:40:17 PM

#1431236
Firewing

The difference between you lot and Ben Franklin is that he eventually came around (if only he had been that outspoken earlier in life...). You lot still harbor feelings that we should be slaves, if not killed outright, as KKK, Stormfront, and numerous other groups flying under your banner have explicitly stated.

8/5/2012 9:49:12 PM

#1431243
J. James

@His4Life
It's a shame. Just as you were showing signs of improvement, you went and jumped off the deep end. Seriously, SEEK HELP. Your unerring certainty that billions of people- founding fathers included- are burning in hell, describing it in sadistic, almost fetishistic detail, is truly horrifying. Not to mention it doesn't exactly inspire confidence that you aren't recieving your unerring certainty from angels communicating with you through your toothbrush, telling you to take the gun out and shoot some heretics in an orgasmic cleansing of violence. Because that's how crazy you sound right now.

"I'm not "gleeful" about anyone being sentenced to hell."

BULLSHIT.

"He's probably just wondering if he'll ever taste a drop of water, if he's even capable of wondering anything at all. :p"

Your blithe, carefree little ":p" will haunt my nightmares, you sick, demented fuck.

"I hear fat fries real good. I'm sure this "great scholar" is just as unintelligible now amid his inane babbling and screams for water as Christian 'dogma' was to him."

This is downright disturbing. Again, seek help. You appear to be taking FAR too much pleasure from this. This is honestly the creepiest thing I've read since that NAMBLA thing. Whatever your kink is, lady, I have a strong suspicion there's no such thing as a "safe word" for it.

I'm starting to run out of words to describe this descent into madness. "Sanity slippage?" "Nightmare fetishist?" plain ol' "batshit fucking crazy?" I fear that few do this justice.

8/5/2012 10:18:14 PM

#1431273
Nowonmai

And the Muslims say the same thing about force feeding THEIR 'holy book' to those who don't follow their faith.

As for reading Proverbs, I would prefer kids learn Aesops Fables. At least it's an honest title, not parading itself around as a paragon of THE TRUTH.

8/6/2012 1:17:51 AM

#1431274
Micharion

Except proverbs does not do it either it's just that bible thumpers use anything they can find to justify themselves. But in most case those are actually just stories told to the disciples and edited ones at that. King James had many things taken out a we may never know what those were. Oh and apparently most of them do not pay attention in history since James did try to have a different wife because he did not like the first one he had and tried to excommunicate the pope if I remember correctly it has been a while.

8/6/2012 1:26:35 AM

#1431335
His4Life


8/6/2012 5:35:05 AM

#1431337
His4Life

;)

8/6/2012 5:40:02 AM

#1431374
Dr.Shrinker

@ His4Life

I see your dodging skills are still as sharp as ever. let me refrsesh you memory:

"Marx? Seriously? I hope and pray you mean Groucho, and not the socialist Jew who almost destroyed half the world during the Cold War."

- For the second time, would you care to tell us who Marx killed? No, I do not mean who killed in Marx's name. Your response clearly implicates Marx himself. If you want to talk about killing people in another's name after said person is dead, your Jesus has Marx beat, hands down.

Also, you obviously do not recall that Jesus said, "I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." Jesus was a socialist Jew, the very sort you dismiss with abject contempt. Please, do not throw around extraneous concepts like Zionism and the Talmud (which was still in its infancy when Jesus was alive). That's like saying that Jesus would have preferred Mac over Windows: it was not an issue in his day.

Save yourself further embarrassment His. Just tell us to "have fun getting anally raped in Hell " and stomp off now. That's how all of your attempts at proselytizing here end anyway.

8/6/2012 6:29:12 AM

#1431375
Brendan Rizzo

@ His4Life:

Be honest. Were you trolling us this whole time?

8/6/2012 6:30:03 AM

#1431384
Mister Spak

@his4life:

"Firewing, how was Christianity used to oppress black Americans? Yes, there were some slaveholders who used the Bible to "justify" their abomination."


http://biblestudy.wckkkk.org/

http://christianidentityministries.com/

http://www.kingidentity.com/ait.htm


8/6/2012 6:41:29 AM

#1431443
Anon-e-moose

@Percy Q. Shunn



A round of applause and a shiny new internet is on it's way to you. Use it wisely, comrade

@Blue the Thief

The above applies to you. The use of Hokago Tea Time. Your argument is valid. b^_^d :3

@A certain person in this thread who shall remain clueless

"Also, I'm not "gleeful" about anyone being sentenced to hell"

Yeah. Right. Compared with your 'Demon Buttsex' obsession/fetish/revenge fantasy track record previously. Your argument is invalid.

...now why don't you ever hear Quakers or Unitarian Universalists condemn others not exactly like them, as you & your ilk do (and thus they never get quoted here in FSTDT)? You. Tell. Me.

8/6/2012 8:51:53 AM

#1431479
Liz

I do think it is important to have a working knowledge of some parts of the Bible for English classes, as it is referenced a lot in literary works that are to be studied. The same goes for Classical mythology.

8/6/2012 10:40:57 AM

#1431497
tmarcl

And to be honest Ben Franklin is one guy I do not feel sorry for. He's held up as an American hero but he was a disgusting human being. Speaking of slavery, he was a huge proponent of the slave trade and when his ass got too fat for him to walk on his own, he actually had slaves haul his butt around on a dais like some kind of king. I hear fat fries real good. I'm sure this "great scholar" is just as unintelligible now amid his inane babbling and screams for water as Christian 'dogma' was to him. I can guarantee you wouldn't want to be anywhere near this burning pile of refuse or his atheist pal Thomas Jefferson. Too bad for him, huh?

So, if the Founding Fathers don't count as being responsible for our country's founding, where do people like you get the whole "founded on Christian principles" thing from?


8/6/2012 11:18:19 AM

#1431520
checkmate

The nick "His4Life" is not protected on this site and I suspect a few of the last posts made under that moniker were not written by the self-proclaimed "prophetess" we have all come to know and bemoan.

8/6/2012 12:10:27 PM

#1431659
MK

Let me just say:

We took religion and prayer out of public schools. What has it gotten us?

Closer than ever to a cure for cancer.

Close to a cure for HIV.

The Higgs Boson.

And a freakin' chemistry lab/car on Mars.

Science, Technology, Engineering and Math. FTMFW.

8/6/2012 7:14:04 PM

#1431845
Anon-e-moose

@A certain person in this thread who shall remain clueless

"I'm not "gleeful" about anyone being sentenced to hell"

http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=67654

"LOL. I can't wait to see you guys flop headfirst into hell. When you start screeching and trying to get out, I'm gonna be laughing my butt off in heaven."

"Glad you think eternal punishment is trite, Dr. Shrinker. When you're screaming in agony and wondering when it will be over, I hope you remember this conversation, because I WARNED YOU what you're heading for if you don't stop mocking the Lord and turn to Christ."

"You will have an immortal body then that can't be destroyed, so it can be burned up for eternity and you still won't die. Something to look forward to, atheist."

LMAO. You're going to be the one behind the stand on judgment day! ANd teher will be no politically correct ACLU to bial you out. You're only going to be asked one question - did you know JEsus? If the answer is "no," get ready to burn like a stuck pig. LMAO."

"LMAO. Geeze, man. I'd hate to see the look on your face when you find yourself burning like a piece of trash, and wondering 'when the fuck is this going to end?" What are you going to do, tell God it's against your constitutional rights? LOL, dude, get with it."

"And lol... you'll be all "God, I didn't know you were real!" And then suddenly BOOM, God will be like

"remember His4Life on that message board? Remember how she told you about Jesus? Remember, jackass?" And you'll be like "oh, crap." as the ground opens up and you go plop into the abyss."

"You'll have all the evidence you need when the flames start shooting up your heiney."

... but you are. Matthew 7:1. Also Revelation 21:8. And the 9th Commandment. Better pack your asbestos pyjamas dearie, because - as per your track record of mendacity, you're due for the eternal BBQ and 'Demonic Buttsex' yourself.

@#1075742

"For his life is a troll and a whore attention seeker."

@louislois

"I was going to comment on the original Fundy's Admzaa's quote, but Tard4Life's insipid comments in this thread were whole new level of stupid. I enjoyed the stupidity. It gave me a laugh for the morning. Thanks."

@God of Hell

"@Toodumbforlife

Prove to me that it's real. Where's you demensional transporter. Did you know people claim to see monsters so it must be real, riiiiight. There's eye witness accounts after all."

And courts these days no longer accept 'his word against mine' eye-witness testimonies. Only hard solid physical forensic evidence decides cases; even CCTV proves eye-witnesses wrong. So in the same way, re. your 'claims' before & now, pics or it never happened.

The phrase 'That which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence'. It exists for a reason.



@Tempus

I've mentioned before how your above prediction - in 2009 - was so precise, it's terrifying. But even more now. Especially how it doubly destroys Troll/Poe/Nuts4Life; also how our own SpukiKitty was so prescient in her coming up with such a spot-on real screename for our now conclusively proven troll (and therefore whose very existence, never mind anything she says/'claims' in perpetuity, is invalid). I therefore bow before your superior prediction abilities. Do you happen to know next week's lottery numbers, by any chance?! X3

@Troll/Poe/Nuts4Life

"Some 'monsters' are real. They are demons that appear to people."

http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=60847&Page=1

"Leviathon is a spirit I have battled as well. It was a hard battle but was won. It was about four months or more ago. My wife and I were in McDonalds and were having a conversation with an angel and Leviathon had come up. I told the angel that i wanted to fight this demon and he said I could. On the way back to the hotel I asked the angel if he could bring the demon to a predestinated place and he said yes. I figured that since Leviathon was from the depths of the sea he would be used to the cold water so I filled the tub up with scalding hot water and blessed the water. The angels (there were two now) brought Leviathon bound to the tub and fought with me. We all pulled our swords from our hips and began running this demon through with all my strength and everything I had. I would say it took atleast half an hour or more. We were all spent but the battle was won."

Proof that the phrase 'You can't spell 'Fundamentalist' without the word Mental'. It exists for a reason. No wonder then, that - as proven in the case of this Fundamentalist:

http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=69049&Page=1

She didn't have a legal pot to piss in. Certainly when the judge will no doubt have asked Sharlene Andreyko 'Prove that "Witchcraft" actually exists'. And when she couldn't come up with any hard, solid, physical evidence to prove the existence of such, then...!

It's the reason why today there's no such thing as 'Witch Trials', a la those in Salem; via 'Puritans', if memory serves correct. Christians. Further reason why Separation of Church and State exists in all normal, decent, civilised, democratic societies today. Because the last time Church & State were indivisible, people were burned at the stake.

Ergo, what I've always said, and always bears repeating: right-wing Fundamentalist Christianity: it represents a clear and present danger to all normal decent civilised democratic societies, that is infinitely worse than Al-Qaeda. Just as they want no less than an International Caliphate, with worldwide Sharia Law, all right-wing Fundamentalist Christians want no less than to impose - by force - a worldwide fundie-based Theocracy, in which if anyone doesn't conform to their hyper-dogmatic 'faith' & 'beliefs', then they are eliminated as 'Satan-worshippers'.

The same can therefore be said of any & all 'claims' made by you before & since about a 'Hell', 'Demonic Buttsecks' & 'burning for eternity' BS. 'Their word against mine' eyewitness accounts (by 'Mr. 23 Minutes' in a book of cheese dreams) would never hold up in any court, ergo That which is asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence. Just as the defence's 'claims' about an 'Intelligent Designer' were found wanting in Kitzmiller vs. Dover, therefore Evolution is proven to be fact, and Creationism is lies; the law says so, and Romans 13:1-5 orders fundies to accept this, or be burned in Hell themselves.

Human law is superior to your so-called 'God'. Deal with it. And so what if Rule of Law that is the basis of Democratic societies renders the 'rights' of fundies (i.e. their need to Persecute others not exactly like them; Liberals, Atheists, women wanting abortions et al) destroyed by 'Political Correctness'/Thoughtcrime legislation? From the point of view of we non-fundies, that's a bad thing... how?

You. Tell. Me.

If you disagree with what Rule of Law - Democracy - represents, then you should remember who else disagreed with Rule of Law, and Democracy. A certain Austrian, who thought he had the right to have ideas above his station: thoughts that condemned millions of innocent people to hideous deaths, purely for the crime of existing.

http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=23253&Page=2

"If I pray to God to kill you, naturally He's not going to listen to my prayer!

If I don't pray in accordance to His will, of course He's not going to answer my prayers!

If your kids ask for stupid things, will you give them what they want?

If your kids ask for things that are good for them, wouldn't you always try to give what's good to them?

Do you understand now, how God is like a parent or you still wish to see God as a Genie in the Bottle?"

@BurntBush

"If your kids did something bad, would you throw them in a lit fireplace?"

Answer that question, dearie. You apparently know more about your so-called God's 'mercy' than he does.

So, what two adult, consenting men do = mass murder, eh...? Then you wonder why we Atheists refuse to acknowledge the existence of your so-called 'God of Love'; not forgetting:

'Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.'

-Marcus Aurelius

With emphasis on 'If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them.'

God = Hitler. Both homophobes. Racism = discrimination. Anti-Semitism = Evil. Discrimination = Evil. Homophobia = discrimination. Homophobia = Evil. Hitler = Homophobe. God = Homophobe. Ergo, God = Evil. Q.E. and D., bitch.

...oh, but then of course you already admit to being anti-Democracy & Freedom (as in Human Rights; Equality for ALL people, regardless of beliefs - or lack of such, as well as lifestyles), as you worship a Hitler-like God (emph-ass-is added):

"LMAO. You're going to be the one behind the stand on judgment day! ANd teher will be no politically correct ACLU* to bial you out."

"LMAO. Geeze, man. I'd hate to see the look on your face when you find yourself burning like a piece of trash, and wondering 'when the fuck is this going to end?" What are you going to do, tell God it's against your constitutional* rights? LOL, dude, get with it."

And of course, not forgetting:

"LOL. I can't wait to see you guys flop headfirst into hell. When you start screeching and trying to get out, I'm gonna be laughing my butt off in heaven."

So really, there was no real need for my proving that you & your right-wing fundie ilk = Nazis here:

http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=88246&Page=3

You yourself have previously admitted you are.

Don't like being called a Nazi (and being called out on your proven to be one), dearie? Well, deal with it. You = Nazi. You don't have the right to deny it, neither; even resorting to using the 'race card' to worm your way out of the argument, neither. Now you know how it feels when you yourself come out with the trolling bullshit you spew here in FSTDT. Don't like being called a Nazi (which - by your own admission - you are)? Well then, you know what to do; Fuck Off out of FSTDT forever. Otherwise expect more hurtful, more than justified reverse-trolling of you.

*- Being anti-ACLU and US Constitution. For an African-American, the irony's clearly not lost on you, dearie. [/hyper-sarcasm] And your referring to 'politically correct ACLU'? Very telling. You couldn't have further admitted to being a fascist if you tried. I refer you to the quote by Sinclair Lewis under the pic of Sarah Failin in this thread.

@checkmate

So? She's still a proven troll, therefore her existence is invalid.

8/7/2012 6:40:51 AM

#1431857
Dyz

Proverbs is the result of epilepsy combined with a bad case of food poisening.

8/7/2012 6:58:50 AM

#1432092
J. James

That was the single best Anon-e-moose trademark no-holds-barred beatdownsTM I've ever read.

8/8/2012 12:00:17 AM

#1432113
hera

Can someone tell me how the part called "Wisdom's Rebuke" in the NIV, is in anyway helpfull to teach in a school?
I actually think this should be taught:
There is no emotion, there is peace.
There is no ignorance, there is knowledge.
There is no passion, there is serenity.
There is no death, there is the Force

The wisdwm won't do any harm.

8/8/2012 3:59:21 AM

#1432199
Anon-e-moose

@checkmate

"The nick "His4Life" is not protected on this site and I suspect a few of the last posts made under that moniker were not written by the self-proclaimed "prophetess" we have all come to know and bemoan."

I refer you to this:

http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=74017&Page=3


#1171580
His4Life

"I can't believe the blasphemy of the title of htis post. Unbelieveable and disgusting. Enjoy having a demon's finger up your butt for eternity, bitch"

#1171749
His4Life

"That wasn't from me. Someone is hijacking my name. But it isn't too far from the truth, and you are a bitch."


#1171758
Distind

"As a note,
http://www.fstdt.com/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=74017&Page=3#1171580
and
http://www.fstdt.com/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=74017&Page=3#1171749
Come from the same computer."

As it was before, all it'd take is an IP trace by our esteemed admin Distind to determine if that's the case. But considering Troll/Poe/Nuts4Life's proven track record of pure lies, then I suspect that said posts were by our resident (hopefully not for long) bridge-dwelling goat-molester.

Consider this: in the past, the b&hammer has been dropped on the likes of TOS(ser the troll), Rubalamew Buttherts, Dennis 'ma(short)bus' Markarzi, and He Who Must Not Be Named (the Canadian fundie spam monster).

Fact: Friedrich Nietzsche preferred the company of Jews to Christians. Better educated, the former represented more of an intellectual challenge in his philosophical discussions/debates with people. That alone annihilates the claim by certain people that Nietzsche was himself anti-Semitic (re. him being Hitler's philosophical role-model), when he himself wished that anti-Semites should have been shot.

Question: Has Troll/Poe/Nuts4Life actually contributed to debates constructively, answering questions to our satisfaction, and without deviation & dodging the question(s)/point(s); least of all without resorting to her usual 'Turn or Burn' 'threats'/revenge fantasies, spiced up with her 'Demonic Buttsecks' fetish/fap fantasies...? Now there's a good question. If Troll/Poe/Nuts4Life hasn't (and the evidence to prove she hasn't is there for everyone to see), then can her continued presence here in FSTDT be justified...?

Personally, if she - like aforementioned IP-banned fundie freaks - never darkened the HTML code of FSTDT again, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. Just like the members of the forums/boards that had previously been infected by Carico, when she'd been given the boot. Indeed, I wonder if - like this other loony - Troll/Poe/Nuts4Life has done similarly; joined forums, spewed her fundie insanity & inanity, then after being banned from such, she's reduced to posting on FSTDT, as otherwise she wouldn't be able to justify her sad pathetic little existence, i.e. posting her fundie bullshit & creating drama.

Only the religious fundamentalist, in needing to proseltyse, is insecure in their own 'beliefs'. Question: have any Quakers, Amish/Mennonites, Unitarian Universalists, Buddhists, Sufi Muslims et al ever had a life-threatening need to 'spread the word' here in FSTDT? Even Wiccans? Certainly in the case of the latter, our own SpukiKitty has never asked me to 'convert' to her own way of thinking.

In the case of these beliefs, they don't bother anyone, they're not bothered by anyone. And that's the difference. It's certainly the reason why I respect them. Fundies such as Troll/Poe/Nuts4Life, take note.

@J. James

(*Blushy-blushy*)

You make a happy man feel very old (shome mishtake, shurely?! X3 )

8/8/2012 6:26:20 AM

#1432379
tmarcl

@Anon-e-moose

How in the heck are you able to do such long posts? That's got to be way more than the character limit allows. I'm not criticizing you, mind, I'm just insanely jealous and want to know your secret.

8/8/2012 4:48:14 PM

#1432390
His4Life

The posts above were from me, and I stand by them. I may have overstated my case, but I was miffed. As many of you know, I used to accept the myth that America was founded as a Christian nation, but the more I study the founding fathers and their beliefs, the less I see this as true. Sadly, Christians have always struggled for acceptance in this country (as they do in all secular nations) and there was immorality even in the early American colonies. President James Buchanan may have been gay, and even Theodore Roosevelt is believed by some scholars to have been a homosexual who covered it up by acting "butch." So there goes the idea that the founding fathers in any way honored God with their lives.

As for you, Anonemoose, I'm curious why you have to post such long, incoherent rants each time I comment and why you incessantly dwell on this idea of buttsex in every post. I mentioned it in a specific context (that unsaved people would be sodomized as punishment, not as a sex act) and you have made a weird fetish out of it and now have to refer to it in every post.

8/8/2012 5:12:27 PM
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