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Filin De Blanc
Can someone clarify what this person is talking about for me?
8/1/2012 3:17:14 PM
So far as I can tell he's essentially saying 'It is true that liberty is precious; so precious that it must be carefully rationed'.
I can't think where I've heard that before...
8/1/2012 3:44:37 PM
Filin De Blanc
Solomon Grundy: I meant what event is he talking about? It sounds like Boehner and Bachmann have got into some kind of wingnut v. wingnut fight, or something.
8/1/2012 4:31:56 PM
"...where’s the line?”
There is no line. That's the point. You fail Bill of Rights 101.
8/1/2012 6:09:17 PM
how central fighting the perceived threat of Islamic infiltration and Shariah law has become in the Tea Party movement in recent years.
In recent years? The Tea Party movement really isn't all that old that it can see a change "in recent years".
How about "in recent months"?
8/1/2012 6:18:52 PM
@Filin De Blanc:
Michelle Bachmann issued a statement last week which essentially stated that all Muslims working in any capacity for the government should be automatically considered Jihadist spies, and they should be forced to immediately prove to Bachmann's satisfaction that they aren't. She's trying to instigate her own McCarthy-style witch-hunt against Muslims.
And Boehner said that was probably a bad idea.
8/1/2012 6:40:41 PM
Nikt Vazny: I noticed it myself (it's very similar in Russian).
Nagol: You said everything I wanted to say about these rotten little secessionists/seditionists and then some.
A terrible flaw in the sedition and subversion sections ofthe U.S. Code is that it requires physical violence, when most attempts to overthrow or collapse the lawfully constituted Government at this time may consist of, or at least be initiated by, financial crime, cybercrime, and cyberattacks.
8/1/2012 7:17:18 PM
This political shit is getting dull.
8/1/2012 7:19:10 PM
On the bright side, those are all perfectly illegal on their own, so our would-be conspirators will find plenty of charges filed against them without needing to add treason to the list.
Besides, I think it's pretty clear the easiest way to overthrow the American government is to get elected.
8/1/2012 7:24:25 PM
I'm not certain that Tom really wants us to outlaw every institution that teaches struggling to be righteous. That's going to include an awful lot of Christian Pastors right there. But that's what he said.
Do you think that maybe he doesn't know what 'jihad' means?
8/1/2012 7:38:40 PM
Yes, we’re a free country, and that’s a disadvantage at times because our free speech and our laws allow people to operate in our country that certainly couldn’t operate in the Soviet Union or China or anything like that, but where’s the line?
Why won't those people I don't agree with shut uuuuuup?
8/2/2012 12:49:23 AM
Treason you say?
Not like all those good patriotic Tea Partiers would ever do anything like that
8/2/2012 3:19:04 AM
Man, you guys are fucked.
8/2/2012 3:29:57 AM
Jihad = Effort in the cause of the Abrahamic deity.
So, even if the are teaching Jihad, how is that reason? And if it is, when will you be calling out the Christian organisations for the same crime?
8/2/2012 3:36:18 AM
I seem to remember the tea party mentioning overthrow of the government a few times because they don't agree politically with certain policies.
"What is treason today? What is our definition of treason?"
I think the real question that needs to be asked is "What is freedom"? The idea of freedom has evolved numerous times in America's history but today it seems like there is a certain group, the tea party, that would like to define freedom the way the robber barons of the 19th and early 20th century defined it. Hell most Americans cannot even define what freedom means, especially the teabaggers.
8/2/2012 4:22:14 AM
It's cute that the tea party thinks its so relevant even when their heroes like Bachmann have completely fallen on their face in the mud.
It's not so cute that there are large voting blocks out there who want to destroy religious freedom under the guise of "protecting" it.
8/2/2012 5:33:44 AM
I keep reading that as Congressman Bachwomann. Somehow it sounds worse.
8/2/2012 7:32:50 AM
Filin De Blanc
"We've got to stop Shariah law, because otherwise how will we implement the Christian equivalent!?"
8/2/2012 7:47:16 AM
"In recent years? The Tea Party movement really isn't all that old that it can see a change "in recent years". "
The tea party has been around for decades, it just gets a new name when the old one collects too much baggage.
They've called themselves the christian coalition, the moral majority, the KKK, the John Birch society at different times.
8/2/2012 7:49:54 AM
> And we seem to find a lot of people that are doing that on our soil. I mean, what are they teaching in the mosques? They’re teaching jihad, right?
Yeah, nice distraction... from the fact that many Christian fundamentalists and *ahem* Tea Partiers have no qualms about calling for sedition, violent overthrow of the government, or assassinating the president. And no matter how much you scrub, you can't get rid of the tough-boy image and excessive secondamendmentery
8/2/2012 10:29:27 AM
The problem here is not political correctness, it's just correctness!
8/2/2012 1:00:49 PM
That's because they lapped up Ayn Rand's philosophy and swallowed it whole.
8/2/2012 1:24:06 PM
I really think he shouldn’t have spoken out so publicly about Congresswoman Bachmann.
Oh <Insert nonexistent deity> fucking forbid that someone had the nerve to pubicly disagree with St. Bachmann!
How does that help him?
Easily, it shows that not all republicans share Rep. Bachmann's oh-so casual relationship with the truth. It's not as if she hasn't embarrassed the party time and again by her penchant for disseminating half-truths, outright lies, and whacked out conspiracy theories.
We’re a base that’s pretty important in this election,” he said, adding that he thinks most Tea Party activists side with Bachmann and not Boehner in this case.
The tea party is a cancer that will destroy the republican party by driving away or hounding out any and all moderate voices in the party with the myopic policies that eschew bipartisanship and compromise, and instead demand total capitulation to its views.
The response shows just how central fighting the perceived threat of Islamic infiltration and Shariah law has become in the Tea Party movement in recent years.
What state, county, city, town, village, or fucking trailer park in the US is now, or has ever been in any danger whatsoever of having Sharia law forced on an unwilling populace?
You know, we’ve been asking a lot the question: What is treason today? What is our definition of treason? To me, it means you’re conspiring to overthrow the government of our country
Treason is the same thing today that it was when the Founding Fathers codified it in the constitution and is therefore beyond your attempts to twist and redefine it to suit your agenda.
And we seem to find a lot of people that are doing that on our soil.
Yeah, we do. We find them at tea party rallies holding signs that say "IF BALLOTS DON'T WORK THEN BULLETS WILL.", And We find them in tea party candidates who make cryptic remarks about "2nd Ammendment Solutions".
what are they teaching in the mosques?
Probably much the same things that find taught in churches and synagouges.
They’re teaching jihad, right?
Would you even know? Have you ever so much as stepped foot in a mosque? Not every mosque promotes a radical fundamentalist doctrine, nor are they all part of some centrally controlled islamic network.
8/2/2012 1:36:33 PM
"what are they teaching in the mosques? They’re teaching jihad, right?”
That, right there, is why you and the rest of the Tea Party are morons.
8/2/2012 6:12:34 PM
Raised by Horses
Describing "greed is good" as a 'philosophy' is being awfully generous.
8/3/2012 2:27:10 AM
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