Doubting Thomas

How did something come from nothing?

You know you're a Christian when you claim that the theory of evolution can't be true because something can't come from nothing, but then claim that God made the universe appear from nothing.

7/20/2012 5:47:35 AM

Veras_the_Brujah

No, it's not like that at all. You're just an idiot. See the difference?

7/20/2012 5:47:44 AM

Stonespiral

That's an awful lot of stupid to be dealing with this early in my morning..

7/20/2012 5:48:13 AM

LAchlan

I would very much like to punch you in the face.

7/20/2012 5:56:46 AM

Anon-e-moose

"Look around you, Bubba. See the flowers, animals, skies, etc. Do you think they came out of boiling sludge? If that's the case, and the fittest survived. I wonder how that would work. Would a slimey fish crawl out the water, say I need legs, and just grow them?"

Mudskippers. Coelacanth. Evolution. Far more credible than a magic sky fairy taking a handful of dirt and making a man from such. Next question.

"THAT's what sounds so far out to me."

And I like the sound of that. You don't, bubi? Aw, poor you. So da nasty, ebil facts destroy your pwecious wittle fairwytawe? Dere dere, you go back to sleep under your safe security blankie called 'Faith', baby.

"How did something come from nothing? Who designed it?"

Question: Who created God? Aye, there's the rub. Moral: Fuck the 'whys'. It's the Hows that really matter in the grand Reality scheme of things.

"It's like saying drop a watch on an airfield and wait - it'll then evolve into an airplane over millions of years..."

You like using analogy, eh bubi? Okay. Don't make me get out my metaphorical Allspark...! [/"Transformers"] X3

7/20/2012 6:05:34 AM

So, from where did God get everything, if it's so far out to think that something came from nothing? And where did God come from?

Some fish crawl on the bottom of seas or lakes with their fins, rather than swim with them.

The most adaptable survives. Nobody decide to mutate or grow things, stupid, we are all born with a bunch of mutations. Most of these are neutral, a few are malign and may cause infant death, some are beneficial and will help the individual survive to spread the genes to a new generation, which might have the same kind of mutation, only mutated a little bit further.

7/20/2012 6:10:16 AM

Brendan Rizzo

PRATT

7/20/2012 6:15:20 AM

dionysus



Shh! According to fundies we don't exist.

Seriously though, why would a fish be the first thing to crawl out of the primordial soup? Why would the first creature need to climb out of the primordial soup anyway? At that point there was absolutely nothing on land but bare rocks. And why the hell would the sky come from the primordial soup? It's not even a living entity.

Would a slimey fish crawl out the water, say I need legs, and just grow them?

You know, fish can walk on the bottom of bodies of water too. Much like how crabs do that. Furthermore we have actual walking fish that you can look at now such as mudskippers and walking catfish. How much of a stretch is it that fish could walk out of the water when we have ones now that do just that?

Tell me how they decided to develop into male and female

Bacteria are genderless and some varieties exhibit a form of sexual reproduction. It's not too far of a stretch for that sexual reproduction to result in dimorphism where half are universal givers and half are universal receivers. And if you are a universal receiver then you are the one that produces the offspring. As for eggs, it's always nice to be able to protect and feed your offspring.

Who decided to have the babies grow inside them, and which ones to lay in eggs?

Nobody. Those are simply two different methods of having young. You either lay them (usually many) and hope they survive or you carry them with you which gives them extra protection but then you can only do a small number at a time and if you die then you're all fucked. Neither way is perfect, just different.

Who decided that they eyeball placement would give us 3D vision

Nobody. That arrangement just happened to give us 3D vision. Who decided that the way giraffes have their eyes allows them to see 360 degrees around them? And then decided not to give it to us?

and show the vision upside down inside our brains, but cause our brains to become able to decipher it?

Good point. If creationism is true why would a God of infinite power, infinite wisdom and infinite resources design something so shoddily? I mean, I myself have accidentally put things the wrong way when working on home improvement projects and had to compensate for it by adding another piece but I'm not a god.

How did something come from nothing?

Primordial soup was not nothing. It was chock full of amino acids.

It's like saying drop a watch on an airfield and wait - it'll then evolve into an airplane over millions of years

You've been watching too much Pokemon. While an inanimate object like this:

can evolve in Pokemon, such a thing cannot evolve in real life due to inorganic objects not being able to reproduce with variation which is kind of THE ENTIRE FUCKING THEORY.

7/20/2012 6:32:28 AM

Horsefeathers

You're posting this on Amazon. Every single question that you've asked could be answered with probably $100 worth of books, and they'll even ship them right to your door for you so that you don't have to expend any effort to learn any of this. Not only that, you're posting this on the internet, which could be used instead to answer every single question that you asked absolutely free.

How fucking lazy are you people? It isn't that the answers aren't there, it's just that people like you don't want to have to look for them.

7/20/2012 6:35:00 AM

anevilmeme

For the Nth time: Straw man =/= Reality

7/20/2012 6:50:51 AM

Deep Search

Amazon does provide books that explain the concept and process of evolution. Instead of making insane, blathering comments MarSch7 could try reading about it. I'd suggest starting with books aimed at children.

Although I'm assuming that someone this uninformed is willfully ignorant because they just don't want to understand. Really, the theory is not that hard to get. Nor is it that hard to understand that a living organism isn't the same as a fucking watch. People like this just want to be idiots, which is pretty darn sad.

7/20/2012 7:18:29 AM

Meishayuri

Everything came from something, especially the crap you're spilling out. Came from thousands of years of development on how to manipulate incredibly stupid people with the threat and fear of hell in order to turn a tidy profit and control people. Glad you evolved into something, but we are going to have to ask you to turn in your thumbs and jump back into the gene pool. Yay for recycling!

7/20/2012 7:26:47 AM

Philbert McAdamia

THAT's what sounds so far out to me.[

Yeah, me too. Not just your incredible tape recording on evolution, but, you know, the whole religion thing. Faarr Ouut, man!

7/20/2012 7:35:20 AM

Philbert McAdamia

THAT's what sounds so far out to me.[

Yeah, me too. Not just your incredible tape recording on evolution, but, you know, the whole religion thing. Faarr Ouut, man!

It's interesting to me how many gods made the human race out of clay, dust, even water, and of the thousands of them there have been makng man out of the materials at hand. But, of course, those stories are all wrong - except the true one.

7/20/2012 7:41:09 AM

Flah

Evolution! Does not! Work! That! Way!

I'm really glad that that was posted on the internet instead of said out loud next to me. Because, if it were, I might have trouble fighting the urge to grab that guy by the head and shout that into his face.

7/20/2012 8:11:13 AM

Greater Good

It's like...the worst 50s era horror movie you can imagine.

"Night of the Living Strawmen! Kill one, and another takes its place! Can you survive the tide of tired fallacies? Find out...IN 3D, AFTER MIDNIGHT AT YOUR LOCAL DRIVE-IN!!"

7/20/2012 9:25:06 AM

Nagol

You should try to learn how evolution really works before making yourself look like an idiot. Also, here's a question. Where did your god come from?

7/20/2012 9:29:33 AM

Ebon

Argument from stupidity.

7/20/2012 9:32:51 AM

John_in_Oz

The people who DIDN'T dismiss ideas because 'they sound far out', have made organic molecules, and living creatures with artificial DNA.
Your megalomaniacal magic man theory, with the 'houses of the sun', and the Second Coming' back in the first century A.D., and the 'worldwide flood' that took place during recorded history without being noticed by the people doing the recording- well that's produced nothing at all. Unless you count self-delusion.

7/20/2012 9:59:47 AM

Prager

Another cretin who has no idea how evolution works.

7/20/2012 10:19:14 AM

Hugh G. Rection

It looks like that deuce I dropped, evolved into your brain.

7/20/2012 10:55:31 AM

John

Do you think they came out of boiling sludge?

Why not?

I wonder how that would work.

Why ask on the Amazon forum? Just study and learn the theory of evolution like you should have done in high school. Google evolution of tetrapods, evolution of sex or evolution of the eye.

7/20/2012 11:41:53 AM

D Laurier

Nobody thinks flowers, animals, or skies came out of boiling sludge.

7/20/2012 12:01:23 PM

myheadhurts

Adam came from clay, Eve from a rib, both with a magical poof and tada!

Evolution isn't about animals deciding features. It is about sex, offspring, and time. Watches may have time but they don't have sex.

7/20/2012 12:26:26 PM

Wehpudicabok

You know, I bet you're smarter than you're coming across here. If you actually did your research and learned about how these things work, it might surprise you to learn that scientists actually know what they're talking about.

7/20/2012 12:32:27 PM