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Sellers, 17, guilty of killing his parents and a convenience store clerk. In a diary which Sellers call
his "book of shadows," he had written, "in the name of Satan, the ruler of earth, and the King of the
world, I command the forces of darkness to bestow their infernal power upon me." Information
presented during the trial mentioned such details of satanic doctrines as this "book of shadows," -
"blood pacts with the devil," - "a code of silence," - involvement with a game called Dungeons and
Dragons, "inverted pentagrams," "high priest," "recruiter's", heavy metal rock music," and "horror
videos".

some ex- satanist , Insights of God 49 Comments [7/17/2012 3:18:10 AM]
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#1424375
Power Skunk

Oh, boy, here comes another avalanche of "pop culchur is teh debils werks." triggering a shitstorm of misinformation, fabrication, lies and bullshit, followed by showers of fundie conversion and salvation porn, with sprinkles of praise and worship masturbation throughout the evening. This is your fundie thread content forecast from News Channel 6, WFST.

7/17/2012 3:25:46 AM

#1424377
fishtank

Citation very much fucking needed.


And if so.. so what?

7/17/2012 3:26:45 AM

#1424397
Percy Q. Shunn

Because, as we all know, no one ever killed in the name of jesus...

7/17/2012 3:48:48 AM

#1424410
KittyKaboom

Sean Sellers was mentally ill. His claims of Satanism were irrelevant and so was his involvement in D&D, neither of which has ever been scientifically proven to cause people to become violent. Violent tendencies are something a person possesses as part of their personality, not created. Someone is either predisposed toward violent behavior or they are not, it really is that simple.

Sellers didn't kill because he was into Satanism or RPGs. He was a sick boy who wanted to see what it was like to kill. During his incarceration he accepted Jesus like every other good convict. You've proven nothing.

7/17/2012 4:04:57 AM

#1424419
The_L

Holy fuck, it's a strawman Satanist! I always thought they were fictional!

7/17/2012 4:13:36 AM

#1424447
Filin De Blanc

Wow, it's not often you see a Satanist actually go out and murder a bunch of people. Usually it's just fundies of other descriptions claiming that Satanists do these things.

7/17/2012 4:48:11 AM

#1424464
Mister Spak

http://www.holysmoke.org/hs00/dahmer.htm

Jeffrey Dahmer: Born Again Fundamentalist Christian

Jeffrey Dahmer is the son of a Born Again Fundamentalist (Church of Christ) father. Jeffrey's Born Again Fundamentalist home life led him to feel he could not acknowledge his homosexuality to his Fundamentalist father, and instead he developed an intense hatred of himself and of other gay men.
Well Jeffrey has now come home. He has become a Born Again Fundamentalist, baptized by a minister of the Church of Christ.

Concerning Dahmer's difficulty in coming to grips with his homosexuality, Palermo indicated that was a problem since adolescence because he believed his family could not accept it. The difficulty evolved into a hatred over the years which later led to the killings, Palermo said.


"I believe that I am acting in accordance
with the will of the Almighty Creator:
by defending myself against the Jew,
I am fighting for the work of the Lord"
--Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf

7/17/2012 5:12:32 AM

#1424467
Tolpuddle Martyr

Hey, how come I didn't get invited to any Satanist orgies when I played Dungeons and Dragons?

No fair man!

7/17/2012 5:13:29 AM

#1424475
Ebon

We don't have high priests or recruiters, D&D is a harmless game...

Oh, why am I bothering? This is just more bullshit still circulating from the Satanic Panics.

7/17/2012 5:19:12 AM

#1424497
rw23

You forgot to add anime to the list. And pornography.

7/17/2012 5:36:08 AM

#1424503
cdcdrr

Mazes and Monsters is a far out game.

7/17/2012 5:43:09 AM

#1424504
Doubting Thomas

See? See? We need to ban D&D, Satanism, heavy metal, and horror movies (make that any R-rated movie, no, make that any non-explicitly Christian movie), and might as well throw out porn for good measure so that we make sure this never, ever happens again. Might as well make it illegal for kids to look "goth," too, because no matter what they say it's all about, we all know it's really just Satanism.

Think of the children.

7/17/2012 5:46:12 AM

#1424512
Robespierre

1980s social panics were lame.

7/17/2012 5:53:47 AM

#1424515
Anon-e-moose

My best friend has all the Beatles albums, has a framed poster of His Noodlyness the Flying Spaghetti Monster on his wall (along with a hi-res printout of part of the Large Hadron Collider, from CERN), has - in his vast book collection - the works of Dennis Wheatley, HP Lovecraft & Clive Barker, and the "Alien"/"Predator" & even "Event Horizon" films in his DVD collection.

He also has a huge collection of - and plays - RPGs. Including D&D, and even 'Call of Cthulhu'.

He's a long-time C-of-E Christian. He doesn't have a criminal record.

Sellers, either you're a liar or as proved above, your argument is invalid. Choose wisely...!

7/17/2012 5:57:38 AM

#1424516
D Laurier

Is it 1983 again?

7/17/2012 5:59:04 AM

#1424548
John_in_Oz

Mental illness is of the demons!

Strange to say, demons are afraid of lithium ...

7/17/2012 6:24:03 AM

#1424568
dionysus

Someone can't tell fiction from reality. I play Grand Theft Auto, listen to death metal, and watch horror movies. Despite that I haven't so much as punched anyone. How is that possible? Because I know the difference between real life and make believe.

7/17/2012 6:35:49 AM

#1424591
Horsefeathers

Well goodness, we should immediately ban all of those things then, I guess.

I sense another moral panic a comin'.

7/17/2012 7:04:59 AM

#1424606


What was it that Marilyn Manson said:
He'd like to think he was more influential than the president, but he didn't really think he was, somehow.

Your president sends people overseas to kill real living human beings, but a game of make-believe and a bit of music are more responsible for a murder?

7/17/2012 7:25:28 AM

#1424607
Thinking Allowed

The 80s called. They want their conspiracy theories back.

7/17/2012 7:25:52 AM

#1424633
Flah

Reading his Wikipedia article, he sounds to me like your basic run-of-the-mill psychopath. And he's really bad at it, from the sound of things. Blaming Satanism and D&D is pretty damn weak. And when he started blaming Multiple Personality Disorder, the psychiatric community had already debunked a good number of the cases, and was seriously considering whether the disorder even existed.

That boy sounded absolutely pathetic.

7/17/2012 8:19:23 AM

#1424642
The Duelist

I listen to death metal, play violent video games like Blood Omen 2 (where you play as the most awesome vampire, ever, Kain) and watch horror movies, war movies, and anything that contains gratuitous violence. I do not have a criminal record, I donate to charity, and from what I've seen, am a hell of lot more "moral" than most of my Christian Texans are.

7/17/2012 8:44:28 AM

#1424643
Papabear

If your mind is so troubled and/or weak that D&D and heavy metal can make you kill your parents, D&D and heavy metal aren't your problem. It's your troubled/weak mind that's the problem.

7/17/2012 8:46:51 AM

#1424663
freako104

This is bullshit

And why always D/D? Why not White Wolf games which are far darker? Heavy metal? Damn I thought blaming that ended in the 90s. Hell Columbine was the last time I heard a musician blamed and that was 99. (Fuck I feel old). And that blame was misplaced and wrong. Horror videos? Not blaming Natural Born Killers anymore?

7/17/2012 9:13:51 AM

#1424664
Canadiest

Every "Satanist" I've ever researched has had that "healthy productive, church going Christian upbringing" you shits demand always produces good citizens.

To even think Satan exists is a Christian trait, to the unbelievers he's a mythical construct, a part of the Biblical myths, nothing more and certainly not real. This is a product of your religion..

7/17/2012 9:16:42 AM
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