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#1420211
anevilmeme
Knocking down strawmen is neither science nor a good debating technique.
7/6/2012 3:36:05 AM
#1420221
fmitchell
Abiogenesis is not properly part of the theory of evolution, Darwin's or the many improved versions since.
Science is suggestive but not conclusive that organic compounds could self-assemble into primitive life. Nobody but creationists suggest life spontaneously sprang from rocks; conditions have to be just right, and what all those conditions are we've yet to discover.
An alternate theory posits a "seed of life", but not necessarily your God's. A god doesn't need to "guide" evolution, either, and the myriad blind alleys and sub-optimal designs show indicate at best a god who wasn't very good at his job.
But I'm wasting my words here.
7/6/2012 3:51:11 AM
#1420222
michael3ov
"While survival of the fittest is an every day occurences, like big fish swallowing up the small fish"
No, just no!
No no no no no no no no!
No!
7/6/2012 3:51:13 AM
#1420226
Leighton Buzzard
My, but doctorates are easy to get these days.
7/6/2012 4:03:27 AM
#1420233
OhJohnNo
The guy just seems to believe God just kickstarted the evolutionary process by introducing life to earth. All I can say is "meh", fine, this isn't that fundie.
7/6/2012 4:10:58 AM
#1420236
Anon-e-moose
"Darwinian evolutionists should know by now that LIFE IS NOT INHERENT IN MATTER"
The Higgs-Boson, discovered just a couple of days ago, via the LHC at CERN. Without such, even inorganic matter wouldn't exist. Next question.
"Evolution CANNOT begin until God seeded this earth with that seed of life."
PROTIP: The film "Prometheus" is not a documentary. Even the seeder had to have been seeded in the first place. Even the watchmaker had a mother & father. Everything has an origin. No Exceptions.
7/6/2012 4:12:41 AM
#1420259
Draken
I suppose this is Dr Isabelo S. Alcordo, Univ Florida, Inst Food & Agr Sci. Something went wrong with the man's education along the line.
7/6/2012 5:14:00 AM
#1420260
rrpostal
Is he suggesting that if abiogenesis is "possible" then it would therefor be very very common? That it should happen all the time, everywhere? It's just one of several steps he seems to skip in his thought process.
7/6/2012 5:17:05 AM
#1420261
You seem only to be arguing the veracity of premise 1, which is not a premise of evolution in the first place.
Congratulations, you're an idiot. Although not as much of an idiot as some, since you're not actually saying anything about the factuality of evolution.
7/6/2012 5:17:54 AM
#1420271
Mister Spak
"Now, it has never been shown or demonstrated by science of lifeless matter spontaneously acquiring biological life as we know it. "
However there is never ending evidence that a giant man with a long white beard who lives on clouds poofed everything into existence 6000 years ago.
Except if that's true, why is there still dirt?
7/6/2012 5:45:38 AM
#1420278
Oi! Nutter
"like big fish swallowing up the small fish"
Hey! I saw that cartoon too!
Speaking of cartoonish logic...
7/6/2012 5:48:50 AM
#1420292
Brendan Rizzo
Evolution is not abiogenesis. I don't think that has ever been more pertinent.
7/6/2012 6:16:56 AM
#1420295
Alencon
Maybe "God did it" and that's the answer to abiogenesis.
And maybe it's not.
You don't mind if we keep looking do you? As Richard Dawkins says, the biggest problem with religion is it tells us to be satisfied with being ignorant.
7/6/2012 6:18:23 AM
#1420301
Doubting Thomas
I don't know where they get this idea that all live evolved from rocks.
And then they claim that man was created by God from a pile of dirt.
And "survival of the fittest" doesn't mean going around killing anyone and anything weaker than you.
7/6/2012 6:21:19 AM
#1420308
dionysus
Are you a doctor like Kent Hovind is a doctor? Or do you have an actual PhD and are merely the intellectually laziest doctor in the world? Because abiogenesis=/=evolution and any scientist knows that, plus invoking magic to explain life, especially with our modern knowledge and research, is just lazy.
7/6/2012 6:41:26 AM
#1420311
Evolution does not deal with the non-life to life part of the equation. That's abiogenesis. Second, survival of the fittest is somewhat outmoded as a concept. Evolution deals with populations not individuals. Your information is out of date and your argument is full of holes.
What is the proof for this "god" you speak of?
7/6/2012 6:47:16 AM
#1420317
farpadokly
"It has never been shown or demonstrated by science of lifeless matter spontaneously acquiring biological life as we know it." Nor has anything like a deity ever been shown or demonstrated by science, capable of spontaneously creating life, or otherwise. Occam's razor comes in handy here: Don't multiply possible explanations, go for the simplest one. The idea of such an unlikely being as a deity being involved is completely extraneous to an explanation.
What is "living matter"? Isn't it just a particular combination of chemical elements?
I wonder where he got his Ph.D. Is it from the internet university of bad spelling, illogic, and writing GOD in caps?
7/6/2012 6:58:15 AM
#1420325
The Duelist
"Darwinian evolution has two major premises: a) chance or random events isclaimed to have initiated life and..."
Wrong! First fuckin' sentence, and you're already lying. Abiogenesis, asshole, not evolution, which only deals with adaptations in existing life.
7/6/2012 7:05:02 AM
#1420327
Horsefeathers
"Dr. I. S. Alcordo, Ph.D."
Either you're a liar or extremely arrogant. Real Ph.D. holders almost never go by "Dr." unless they're being addressed professionally, and will instead just tack on Ph.D. to their name, if that. Not only that, actual Ph.D. holders would certainly not title themselves "Dr." and "Ph.D." at the same time, unless they're incredibly egocentric.
So, either you're a liar and hold no such degree or you're both a medical doctor and a Ph.D. holder, which I highly doubt given this tripe.
7/6/2012 7:07:25 AM
#1420340
Whichever institution gave Mr. Alcordo his PhD degree should be ashamed of itself.
Degrees shouldn't be handed out without education.
7/6/2012 7:24:34 AM
#1420349
breakerslion
Cow's milk has two major ingredients, water and white stuff, and neither is alive therefore God makes cheese merp a-derp derp derp! Furthermore, it gives me a hard-on when I pontificate absolute nonsense and still manage to impress the gullible because I sound so much like I know what I'm talking about even when I have not a single clue so I'll tack on a toilet paper degree to seal the deal.
GOD'S MAGIC SPOOGE!
See my earlier post on which came first, the booger or the nose?
Ahem.
7/6/2012 7:43:27 AM
#1420351
J. James
If "life" is not inherent in matter, explain viruses and prions.
7/6/2012 7:44:24 AM
#1420366
Flah
Dr Isabelo S Alcordo of Mindanao University in the Philippines... A PhD in agricultural sciences...
Clearly the curriculum in the Philippines is a little bit different than in North America, but it's still a little bit surprising that Dr Alcordo doesn't have even the most basic idea of how evolution works, or what its basic premises are.
7/6/2012 8:12:13 AM
#1420367
Amadan
Anyone who adds their degree to their name in an effort to gain authority is a gobshite.
7/6/2012 8:12:56 AM
#1420369
Meeeh
Another "Ph.D" who do not understand evolution and don't know the difference between evolution and abiogenesis!
Where did you get your "Ph.D'? Here at Patriot?
7/6/2012 8:16:13 AM
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