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#1426404
Brendan Rizzo
Messrs. Hitler (who was not even an atheist) Stalin, and Mao were certainly despised and condemned during their lifetimes. That is why the free world, which Jewish Philosopher believes is diabolical with its secularism and human rights, fought against them in the first place.
7/22/2012 6:58:01 AM
#1426408
Filin De Blanc
Yeah, because you're just the nicest of guys with your support for genocide.
7/22/2012 7:02:55 AM
#1426417
Reynardine
And Hitler ate spaghetti and kept a dog. Why, you're just like Hitler!
7/22/2012 7:10:08 AM
#1426428
Justanotheratheist
Hitler was not hasrhly condemned...which is why he was the subject of so many assassination attempts, and why his country was bombed almost out of existence. Oh, and he was not an atheist, seconded.
7/22/2012 7:25:28 AM
#1426460
WWWWolf
"Don't be fooled! People who are nice aren't actually nice!"
"Why?"
"...BECAUSE!"
7/22/2012 8:26:48 AM
#1426472
D Laurier
WTF?
7/22/2012 8:49:23 AM
#1426477
Doubting Thomas
Stalin and Hitler and Mao were also not harshly condemned while they were alive.
Probably because they were powerful, ruthless dictators who controlled the state media and silenced dissenters by having them executed.
That doesn't mean they weren't hated by the people they oppressed, though.
7/22/2012 8:58:05 AM
#1426497
Percy Q. Shunn
Yes, you are correct. The reason we fought those nations in WWII and during the Cold War, was because we didn't like the cars they made. Ugly, stupid cars that offended our sense of style and form.
7/22/2012 9:21:06 AM
#1426518
Leighton Buzzard
Wait, what? WTF does utilitarianism have to do with being nice?
7/22/2012 9:40:38 AM
#1426524
freako104
From my experience atheists tended to be nicer. Though Jews were great too from my experience. Most Christians were nice but far too many were assholes. Also you are an asshole
7/22/2012 9:48:10 AM
#1426531
thatotherguy
Stalin was actually hated in Russia itself, to the point that, even his predecessors, who more or less continued his legacy, chose to publicly distance themselves from him.
Hitler was well liked in Germany by those he wasn't interested in killing (a charismatic speaker who talks about your country being naturally superior to all others will get some traction with the public), but most of the rest of the world thought he was, you know, crazy and possibly evil – kind of how we think of him today. And, of course, he had plenty of enemies within the state, as is proven by the assassination attempts levied against him.
Mao I don't know as much about, but I believe his situation was somewhat similar to Hitler's.
7/22/2012 9:57:54 AM
#1426544
Darwin
Yeah, everybody just so totally loved them all. We didn't know anything bad about them until they died. Couldn't even figure out that 'second world war' thingy, what was that all about?
7/22/2012 10:26:11 AM
#1426547
J. James
Jewish philosopher has demonstrated time and again that HE cares not for the truth because HE is the truth. End of story. His word= God's law.
It's the arrogant fuckers like this that I despise the most. They don't just ignore contrary evidence, they think they're above it.
7/22/2012 10:30:06 AM
#1426560
fishtank
ok, you really ARE retarded.
7/22/2012 10:52:09 AM
#1426569
John_in_Oz
All right, you've got me. In a previous incarnation I was both John Stuart Mill AND Jeremy Bentham.
I was really a passionate admirer of the niceness of the society created by you Jews and Christians in the 1800's. I could find almost nothing to make myself look as nice as you. Except for a few insignificant quibbles such as abolition of slavery and the death penalty, supporting equal rights for women, support for animal rights, freedom of expression, the right to divorce, individual and economic freedom, separation of Church and State, abolition of physical punishment, including that of children. And that was really all about you.
Dick.
7/22/2012 11:23:06 AM
#1426585
John
Stalin and Hitler and Mao were also not harshly condemned while they were alive.
Bombing Berlin wasn't a harsh enough condemnation of Hitler for you?
7/22/2012 11:50:36 AM
#1426645
nazani14
Just read the Wikipedia article on utilitarianism. Had never heard of it before, but I see stuff like this: "“Now it is evident from the nature of God, viz. his being infinitely happy in himself from all eternity, and from his goodness manifested in his works, that he could have no other design in creating mankind than their happiness.." and I know that a. it's a lot of useless blather, and b. it has nothing to do with atheism.
7/22/2012 2:41:11 PM
#1426665
Old Viking
I'm nice on some of my better days.
7/22/2012 3:26:10 PM
#1426678
dfmfundies
@ Reynardine:
And Hitler ate spaghetti and kept a dog. Why, you're just like Hitler!
No, no, you've got it backwards. jewish philosopher eats dogs and keeps spaghetti.
7/22/2012 4:01:51 PM
#1426681
Felis >:3
Right. Because literally 50 or so countries forcing all their young men to fight to bring Hitler out of power is not a "strong condemnation".
Go and fuck yourself, cunt.
Not very eloquent, but there you go.
7/22/2012 4:19:22 PM
#1426691
Robespierre
I think that j.p. is a troll. No real person could be so stupidly wrong on everything, except maybe Andy Schlafly.
7/22/2012 5:52:43 PM
#1426707
Sporkman!
Talk about failing philosophy. Honestly, utilitarianism is a fairly reasonable moral code - so long as you don't take it as utterly absolute and (gasp) not act like a sociopath. Which, incidentally, is true about a lot of moral codes.
(I'm not going to seriously go into a dissertation about the philosophical merits and issues with utilitarianism. I already did that for my philosophy 101 class, and I'd rather not do it again, mostly because I'd probably cause the comments system to snap like a twig due to volume.)
And his second statement is just blatant lies, so I feel no need to answer that. Besides, everyone else here already has.
7/22/2012 6:58:56 PM
#1426708
Wait. Hitler wasn't harshly condemned while he was alive? What do you call almost every nation in the entire world declaring war on him then?
7/22/2012 7:03:01 PM
#1426727
Raised by Horses
Forget philosophy. You wouldn't make it through first grade with what passes for erudition in your mind.
7/22/2012 7:43:37 PM
#1426748
Ebon
Hitler wasn't an atheist. He made so many contradictory statements that it's difficult to say what he actually did believe but it certainly included some kind of supreme being.
As for the utilitarianism stuff. Do you think that atheists spend as long thinking up ways to offend you as you spend looking for excuses to be offended?
7/22/2012 8:58:42 PM
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