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Filin De Blanc
At least he's upfront about his lack of regard for human life.
7/2/2012 1:17:54 PM
Most fundies chronicled on this site are authoritarian and accept authority for authority's sake. While they share a lot of the same economic concepts as the capital-'L' Libertarians in the U.S., they're nowhere near similar.
As for this fundie, though...
"We need to accept the principle that sometimes poor people will die just because they are poor."
What a wonderfully lazy intellectual position.
7/2/2012 1:40:52 PM
7/2/2012 2:01:51 PM
This is why I think most libertarians are assholes.
They don't realize that their system has one failing in common with communism; they both look great on paper but they are shit in practice.
7/2/2012 2:22:58 PM
I don't think it's just about people swallowing the myth that the US is some fragile glass figurine that will explode into dust the minute we get national healthcare. A number of the people who whine and squawk, "OMG it's all over and we're all gonna DIE!!!eleventyone!!" tend to be the ones who can afford healthcare already. Privilege. Blind acceptance of authority and privilege ("at least I have insurance, not like them poor folks!")
7/2/2012 4:01:59 PM
If America is going to collapse, it will not be due to giving the poor medical care, it will be because people like Tyler Cowen hold too much power and influence.
Tyler Cowen isn't just some idiot with an internet connection, he is one of the most influential "economists" in the United States.
I'm not sure why Americans keep propping these assholes on pedestals, but the U.S. economy is unlikely to recover anytime soon if the likes of Tyler Cowen has any say in it.
7/2/2012 4:52:48 PM
The GOP: Most emphatically NOT their brothers' keepers.
7/2/2012 4:54:36 PM
Take it away, Tim!
7/2/2012 8:09:50 PM
The free market does indeed provide solutions for most social problems we encounter.
However, as the free market isn't human, those solutions will, by extension, also be inhuman.
7/2/2012 10:15:04 PM
I'm going to take a massive gamble here and say you're not poor, am I right?
7/3/2012 9:19:35 AM
"for a change"? I'd consider most libertarians "fundies".
7/3/2012 9:59:45 AM
I've said it before and I'll say it again: a libertarian is a fascist who wants to smoke pot.
To the 1%, libertarians are useful idiots, providing a (pseudo-)intellectual argument for a return to the age of the robber barons.
7/3/2012 5:08:34 PM
"A libertarian is a fascist that wants to smoke pot"
Bravo! That was hilarious.
7/3/2012 7:33:46 PM
I'm pretty sure that Russian nobility felt pretty much the same way right up until those ungrateful, unwashed masses rouded them up and shot them...
7/4/2012 1:58:18 AM
Hurts the poor? No, not having health care kills the poor if they can't afford to treat illnesses properly. You're a sick little freak.
7/4/2012 3:18:00 AM
"We need to accept the principle that sometimes poor people will die just because they are poor. Some of you don’t like the sound of that, but we already let the wealthy enjoy all sorts of other goods — most importantly status — which lengthen their lives and which the poor enjoy to a much lesser degree."
Let's see how you like the sound of that too - when you've lost your job, home etc. Remember:
Anyone is just one paycheque away from homelessness. No Exceptions.
There's a good reason why Cuba spends as much on healthcare as defence. A healthy populace is the ultimate investment. Which results in a healthy infrastructure as a whole.
The chances of finding a Cuban with bad teeth is as likely as... well... finding hen's teeth. Good dental health is the basis of good bodily health as a whole. Resulting in a healthy Body Politic as a whole too. But hey, you want the likes of Cuba, China, the UK et al to be ahead of your country in terms of Gene Therapy research, you go right ahead. See you on the plane to Havana, Beijing or London, should you want said therapy to cure a previously incurable disease, Ty.
7/4/2012 5:14:42 AM
The French invented a life shortening device for people exactly like this.
Libertarians don't seem to grasp that.
7/4/2012 6:10:57 AM
They do, at least, have a point. Life expectancy for the wealthy and higher status is longer than for the lower status, even when there is universal healthcare (see: the UK). Even when you control for things like diet and housing, simply belonging to a higher status group improves your life expectancy, for poorly understood reasons that probably involve stress and social benefits.
Some do find this outrageous, and some do try to do something about this, but mostly people give a shrug when the differences in life expectancy are brought up. Mostly people seem fine with living in a system that requires a certain percentage to live at the bottom with no status and little prospects, as long as they have basic access to food, shelter, and medicine. Sometimes not even that. And most people are even happy to blame these scapegoats for their position.
So I can see it being hard to convince people that they should care about access to healthcare, when the people campaigning for it are so unbothered by the rest of the unequal system.
7/6/2012 3:39:49 AM
What is your proposal for making sure the poor have enough status?
7/9/2012 8:17:38 PM
What's it like being an android that lacks all emotion and empathy?
In worlds like yours the rich get killed in revolutions.
7/31/2012 8:24:46 AM
You're even more right than you may realize: ancient Rome was conscient of the importance of public health and acted accordingly, with hospital-temples
and medical fees
proportional to the patient's means.
8/2/2012 4:42:14 PM
The wealthiest nation in the world , which gives billions to other countries, can't ensure that all who live here can get affordable or free health care ?
8/2/2012 4:50:38 PM
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