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Vic, you are an idiot. Does the term 'consenting adults' mean nothing to you? Do you really not see the difference between murdering or molesting people, hurting people, and two consenting adults having a relationship? Where is the victim? Who is getting hurt? idiot...
6/25/2012 3:59:49 AM
Filin De Blanc
Is there no bullshit these people won't use to discredit Obama?
6/25/2012 4:01:38 AM
Let's keep this short:
-Values may be relative, but if you're going to live in our society, you must still abide by the harm principle.
-Homosexuality and murder have nothing to do with each other.
-Consensual sex. Look it up... uh... in the dictionary. Given how far that stick is crammed up your ass, Googling consensual sex might kill you.
Also, you're citing YouTube?
6/25/2012 4:03:31 AM
yeah, yeah, and gawd hates shrimp. think hard, there must be a point under all those buzzwords...
homosexuality=/= grave robbing, necrophilia, serial killing (dahmer ended up born-again, remember?)
someone do the rest of the rebuttal please... edit: wow, that was fast, kthxbai
6/25/2012 4:06:33 AM
The basic rule of society is: you can have differing values, but your right to live by those values terminates where they infringe on the lives of others.
So you can be a black-hating, Jew-hating, gay-hating KKK member. You just can't lynch them, put burning crosses on their lawns, drag them behind your pick-up truck, rape them, etc.
See how that works?
6/25/2012 4:09:16 AM
When your "different values" harm other people, or their property, then they are wrong and illegal (we don't reallt need the term immoral, as we have the term illegal).
It doesn't affect me in any way whatsoever that gay people can marry each other. Ergo; it's not immoral.
Your human rights ends where mine begin, remember.
6/25/2012 4:14:05 AM
Talk about a flying leap...
6/25/2012 4:31:57 AM
The world is so full of a number of things, and look what you choose to dwell on! What does that tell us about your values?
6/25/2012 4:31:58 AM
I have no idea what this person is trying to say.
6/25/2012 5:06:11 AM
Then we have the people whos values oppose American values. They go by different names, such as KKK, or teabaggers, or Republic party.
6/25/2012 5:41:14 AM
Hey Vic: "Thou shalt not bear false witness against they neighbour", Vic! Remember that one?
God hates you, Vic.
You're gonna burn.
6/25/2012 5:46:13 AM
"Different values" doesn't mean you get to do whatever the fuck you want. Don't we still have laws against all that stuff you mentioned?
6/25/2012 5:54:20 AM
MY values include not spreading slander.
6/25/2012 5:57:51 AM
Atheism != Moral relativism.
6/25/2012 6:05:08 AM
The Wild One, Forever
For the last time, sex between consenting adults (who are not married or otherwise involved with someone else) harms no one. The gender of the participants does not matter. How about this? Try shutting up and minding your own business. The world would be better for it.
6/25/2012 6:06:18 AM
6/25/2012 6:57:14 AM
"... Ed Gein ... Jeffrey Dahmer ... values ..."
Vic, do you really want us to make a list of Christian "values" like slavery, bigotry, sectarian violence, forced conversions, and the many, many, many people who have been convicted of far worse than Gein or Dahmer could have ever dreamed of who were, none the less, professed Christians?
No, I don't think you would want us to make such a list.
"Then of course we have people who have different values even in different venues. There are those whose values mean it’s very desirable and their own desire to molest children. We call them pedophiles."
I call them Catholic priests, but I suppose it's all semantics really.
"Because it’s a moral behavior or immoral behavior if properly defined. Its molestation but that happens to be their set of values and how dare we say anything about that."
"And then of course I don’t go from the sublime to the ridiculous here, but bestiality. Bestiality!"
What rant about homosexuality, pedophilia, and cannibalism would be complete without the vaunted bestiality comparison, right Vic?
"I mean this this is vile behavior."
Vile behavior that Christians have also participated in. Don't forget that, Vic.
"You can even go to YouTube and there are videos of those who have claimed to engage with certain."
YouTube, much like your fine self, is not a credible source for anything.
6/25/2012 7:00:33 AM
Murderers and rapists are bad people because they cause harm to others. There is nothing about homosexuality requiring gay people to be murderers or rapists; the vast majority only have intercourse with consenting adults, much like straight people. And those are the operative words: consenting adults. If one or both are missing, then it's rape, which, as has been noted, the religious are a lot more tolerant of than the non-religious, so you are in no position to talk.
You also lose points for using the word "literally" in a metaphor. There appears to be a negative correlation between a person's intelligence and how likely they are to do that.
6/25/2012 7:06:31 AM
Oh My Dog!
There is no slippery slope here. You know those old Roadrunner cartoons where Wile E. Coyote manages to find several unusual ways to go over a cliff.
Well, you're Wile E. Coyote.
6/25/2012 7:50:47 AM
I've never seen a shit shovel that big. Wherever did you buy it?
Your argument, if I can call your somewhat random nattering that, stinks on ice for several reasons. I limit myself to addressing the alleged non-existence of moral relativism in a Christian doctrine that contains Commandment 6, yet makes endless excuses for smiting one's enemies.
6/25/2012 7:52:16 AM
Here's an interesting idea. Maybe we should allow people to live the way they wish as long as they don't wish to harm other people. For example, two consenting adults having sex, no matter what gender both are, harms no one, so comparing it to bestiality, murder, cannibalism, and pedophilia is quite asinine. I seriously wonder how you manage to dress yourself in the morning if you can't see the obvious difference. Maybe you know the difference, but still use these comparisons anyway in a shameless attempt at discrediting homosexuals. If homosexuality is so bad, then tell us why it's so bad without comparing it to something else. If it's really so horrible then you should have no problem doing this.
6/25/2012 8:16:39 AM
Oh lookey here, another sanctimonious A hole who thinks they're one of the few moral people left in the world.
6/25/2012 8:17:38 AM
People who dance the polka obviously have different values from mine. Then there are those left-handed people, and people who drive Mazdas. My God, the moral fiber of this country is in flames.
6/25/2012 9:21:27 AM
And you suck the genitals of horses. It's an allegation, and now it's out there.
So. fucking. what.
6/25/2012 9:30:16 AM
Troll tip #392: When making the bibliography for your research paper, it's OK to include "YouTube comments page" as a source.
6/25/2012 9:33:20 AM
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