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Nice, subtle, emotive words to pretend you are making a legitimate unbiased reasoned point. May I rephrase and use your word game?
Is the process of eating and cellular respiration the certain process of evolution that would function in such a precise and perfect manner? Alternatively, could it be that a common designer made a mere fluke of eating and cellular respiration?
Funny how your words games are not objective science, yet pretend to masquerade as such.
Suffer me to make one more observation:
"If the supposed cosmic and random happenstance of evolution was the real reason that all living things exist...." One more time for the peanut gallery....Evolution has nothing to do with the reason we all exist. Is not happenstance or random (except the mutations part), and there is no "supposed cosmic" anything about evolution.
Carl: I will have misrepresenting evolution for 500 Alex. (ding ding ding ding)
Alex: You just got the daily double!!!!!!!!
6/13/2012 8:28:37 PM
Our DNA lines up with that of other living things because we all have a common ancestor. Do some goddamn research. Oh, and...
"Which answer appears to be the most probable to you?"
I consider the idea that a perfect being made this astonishingly imperfect universe to be about the least probable idea imaginable, aside from plain contradictions.
6/13/2012 9:39:22 PM
This is such a brutal assault on basic biology that I feel wounded. Ingestion and cellular respiration have little to nothing to do with DNA. It is all chemistry. Your body does not give a damn what you eat as long as it contains the chemical compounds you need. Further the evolution of these processes are widely know because they are on of the most simple and common processes of organic life.
Someone failing biology this badly makes me want to beat them senseless with a biology textbook in the hopes that pain will finally get some facts across.
6/14/2012 12:10:37 AM
There was an experiment in 1965 where a group of men lived for 19 weeks on purely synthetic food. Basically a bunch of chemicals mixed into liquid. No DNA at all.
6/14/2012 1:17:19 AM
Wow! It's amazing that so complex a thing as eating and everything that eating entails should have been designed by so simple a creature as an emotionally overwrought sky fairy.
But we should have guessed from His solution to the problem of His receiving the most trivial of slights. Namely, the complex and seemingly perfect design of a nether region of eternal torture.
Neither nature nor no mere man could possibly have come up with such a wonderfully complex system as 'worship me or suffer excruciating pain forever'. The guy's a genius.
6/14/2012 1:29:13 AM
What's the dna of salt and sugar?
6/14/2012 1:35:12 AM
This is a new one on me; the Argument from Eating. It can be summed up in the following way: Animals eat, therefore God exists.
This one will lead to mass conversions and churches being packed out up and down the country, if I'm not mistaken.
6/14/2012 3:25:40 AM
Sounds like somebody heard a few sciency-sounding phrases and thought he'd sound clever if he used them.
This is mostly word salad.
6/14/2012 4:37:23 AM
Actually the fact that all species DNA is compatible to some level is evidence FOR evolution. Evolution predicts that all creatures came from the same simple forms of life, therefore all creatures are related to a certain degree.
If there were to be something whose DNA was completely alien to everything else then this would be evidence against Evolution.
6/14/2012 5:22:25 AM
"When we ingest other living things, the DNA of those living things (fruits, vegetables, nuts, meats, etc.) just happens to be compatible with our DNA so that cellular respiration can take place."
Except for that thing that happens after ingestion. It starts with a "D".
6/14/2012 5:55:32 AM
Why does a supposedly loving creator make us eat other life forms? I could see a process like evolution coming up with such a thing but it seems overly cruel and violent for a supposedly loving god.
6/14/2012 5:58:56 AM
Der, and when you cook them there, they absorbs the speed of light froms the charcoal which is black until God's magic makes it glow red how do it do that? Then the soybeans go marching two by two up Noah's ark so we don't have to eat each other and maybe kill people with old legbones and such. All 'cause DNA go "WOOO - WOOO! SCIENCE!"
6/14/2012 6:46:03 AM
Come back when you research digestion a little better. Then we'll talk about how it fits into evolution.
6/14/2012 8:11:36 AM
All science fail aside, if there is a great Creator, why did he make it so that we have to eat anything at all to survive? Nobody has to eat, nobody starves to death.
Also, what great Creator makes our air hole the same hole as our food hole? As my 3-year-old nephew would say... "bad design".
Every time these guys try to make an argument they only succeed in further proving that their god is an asshole.
6/14/2012 8:44:59 AM
You need to read some basic biology Carl.
6/14/2012 9:31:29 AM
Wow, so much bullshit in so few words. Amazing.
Yet in order for life to be sustained, living things must have other living things to ingest
The human body is totally insufficient energy wise. Why didn't God make us in such a way that we could just absorb all the energy we need directly from our surroundings?
In fact, why do we need energy at all? Couldn't God have done that differently and let us exist energy independently?
Hunger is one of the world's largest human problems. Bad God, bad. You get a big fat "F".
Wait! The human body wastes about 70% of its energy? Maybe God really is an American! ;-)
6/14/2012 2:57:23 PM
"Is the process of eating and cellular respiration the result of a mere fluke of evolution? Alternatively, could it be that a common Designer made certain that the process of eating and cellular respiration would function in such a precise and perfect manner? Which answer appears to be the most probable to you?"
Evolution has been proven. The existence of any god or gods has never been proven. Occam's Razor.
"If the supposed cosmic and random happenstance of evolution was the real reason that all living things exist..."
Who said that evolution is "cosmic"? WTF does that even mean? Secondly, there's nothing "random" about it. Organisms adapt to environmental pressures, not because they just feel like it. You really need to educate yourself on this topic.
"...why, when, and how did this happenstance mechanism decide that living things needed to eat anything in the first place? Would it not be odd that evolution should come up with the idea of food and energy creation through cellular respiration?"
*sigh* Look up "natural selection". And do try to pay attention while you're reading about it. Evolution is neither a being nor a force; it is a process of adaptation. That's it. It's that simple. It doesn't "come up with ideas" anymore than gravity does.
"Cellular respiration is an astoundingly complex, energy-expending system. Yet in order for life to be sustained, living things must have other living things to ingest. What an odd thing for a mere cosmic coincidence to develop, by random generation. Is it not a strange convenience for evolution that all living things have such unimaginable DNA similarity that cellular respiration is possible?"
Seriously? What the fuck does the cosmos have to do with this? It's pretty clear that you have absolutely no idea what you're on about, and are in desperate need of a reality check.
Go to college, hippie! Your ignorance offends me.
6/14/2012 3:01:12 PM
Cellular respiration doesn't work that way,evolution doesn't work that way, and your deity doesn't exist.
6/14/2012 4:07:36 PM
This is hilarious.
6/14/2012 7:37:42 PM
The worst part is that even if this "cellular respiration needs DNA compatibility" bullshit were true it would NOT be a "strange convenience": It would simply mean anything incompatible would be very quickly "unselected".
6/15/2012 3:51:20 AM
You fail Biology.
Plants and fungi use cellular respiration and they don't "ingest" other living things.
6/15/2012 2:21:57 PM
> why, when, and how did this happenstance mechanism decide that living things needed to eat anything in the first place?
It is necessary to acquire energy so as to be able to stave off entropy. That's pretty much the definition of being alive.
6/15/2012 3:13:21 PM
First paragraph isn't even wrong. Not reading the rest.
6/15/2012 9:41:37 PM
Carl Gallups the way Gish does.
6/16/2012 5:06:14 AM
i dont suppose you know why your stomach is full of acid, do you?
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