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cdcdrr

That's right, god owns your body! Play that rapetastic porno music!

Jordab

Right to Life, but not right to have any kind of freedom over yourself. Apparently, little balls of mush have more rights than women.
EDIT: I read the rest of the comic; it says that the baby is pretty much fully developed in about three weeks. ..I don't know much about it, but I'm kinda certain they're cutting that time into a third of what it really is. Right?

shykid

"SOME FOOLISH WOMEN SAY 'I HAVE A RIGHT TO MY OWN BODY' - THIS IS NOT TRUE"

Saying that any class of human beings doesn't have a right to their own bodies is frighteningly dehumanizing and wrong.

"NO WOMAN HAS A RIGHT TO INTERFERE WITH A LIFE GOD HAS CREATED"

Ok, then by that logic, only the Virgin Mary would not have a right to an abortion, since all other pregnancies appear to have been the direct result of sexual intercourse or fertility treatment, not the result of fetuses specifically being implanted into a woman's womb by God's divine will.

Oh, and since you only mentioned that women have no right to interfere with with "A LIFE GOD HAS CREATED," then does that mean forced abortions are ok if a man is doing it and women are "FOOLISH" for saying "I HAVE A RIGHT TO MY OWN BODY" when a man forces an abortion on her? Moreover, does that mean that a man does have the prerogative to veto God's decisions (presuming that God exists for the sake of argument)? Do you think that God would agree with the opinion that you have more authority than Him for possessing a Y chromosome?

I don't think you've quite thought this through or considered the unfortunate and blasphemous implications of your sexist language and attitude...

[size=8](Then again, the only pro-lifers I know who have "thought it through" and are legitimately deserving of the title "pro-life" are a small handful of people who would disgust anti-choice conservatives even more than pro-choicers. They are otherwise hardline leftists who strongly oppose the death penalty, support single-payer universal healthcare, and believe that the state should fully take care of the child and mother, giving them prenatal care, food, and the other necessities required to properly raise a healthy child. They also believe that the government should try to prevent unwanted pregnancy in the first place by providing everyone with free contraception and comprehensive sex education, including making the former available in high schools and mandating the latter there. And that's on top of wanting regulations which not only require fully paid maternity and paternity leave, but also provide parents with protections from being fired or not hired for the "burden" they place on employers, classifying that as a form of illegal discrimination. These are the only pro-lifers whose opinions on the issue, although I ultimately disagree with, I still respect because these people actually fucking thought it through, considered the real-world consequences, and treat both the mother and child as human beings, not as baby-makers or clumps of developing cells that are only sacred until they're born. I had a conversation with one of these people once. It was very enlightening and refreshing. Unlike these sanctimonious jackasses, I actually found myself agreeing with her much more often than disagreeing.)[/size]

Table Rock

NO WOMAN HAS A RIGHT TO INTERFERE WITH A LIFE GOD HAS CREATED

So it's okay as long as the doctor performing the abortion is male?

Raised by Horses

"THIS IS NOT TRUE - GOD HAS THE FIRST RIGHT OVER OUR BODY"

I feel like I've said this a million times already, but what the hell..

Prove God, then we'll talk.

Often Partisan

So God is a totalitarian?

Nowonmai

God didn't create 'life'... Sperm fertilized an egg. And and egg isn't a life, the woman is, and she does have the right to her own body. Just suck it up, princess!

Mister Spak

All foolish fundies say "You have to do it because a giant man with a long white beard who lives on clouds says so!"

Edit: This takes me back to the good old days when anti-choice fundies would openly say you can't have an abortion because it's against my religion.

In 1985 they had a big meeting where they decided they would get better results if they didn't mention god and instead said medical evidence proves abortion is murder. They had little meetings all over the country with local fundies telling them this will be the new parrot phrase from now on.

Karana

This concept would contradict free will, and you can't not have free will or your participation in religion would become pointless.( it is, though for other reasons)

dionysus

It's odd. God supposedly creates every individual yet all that is required already exists in nature: a sperm with half the father's DNA, an egg with half the mother's DNA, and a uterus to provide nutrients. Hell, we've even been able to replicate the joining of sperm and egg in a test tube and we could probably figure out how to create an artificial uterus if the need ever arose. So where, exactly, is God required? Because it seems to me that life knows how to reproduce without a god. Unless you also think God creates every individual bacterium and parasite too. But then you have to wonder what kind of god individually crafts creatures that are perfectly suited to causing pain to what is supposedly his favorite creation.

shykid

@Jordab: I had to go take a look after I read your comment, and all I have to say is LOLFAIL. Appearently, in their world, a three-week-old embryo looks like Sluggy the Unshaven from Yoshi's Island. After that, it can evidently stand up and likes to walk around in its mother's womb and eavesdrop on conversations? wut.

Meanwhile, back in reality, this is what a three-week-old embryo looks like, and babies obviously don't stand up and walk—much less acquire language skills—until well after they're born.

John

So why doesn't God feed and clothe them and give them medical help? He just dumps it and leaves.

Wait, so god creates life? And women shouldn't flush their spawn because their spawn are in fact god's spawn? Sounds dodgy to me, but I gotta commend the guy on getting around, sounds like he makes John Holmes look like a friggin' monk.

Doubting Thomas

Ugh... I can't even stand to hear "right to life" any more without wanting to retch.

Once again, they leave out that whole "free will" thing, wherein humans participate in an act that leads to a pregnancy, rather than it being the result of God just waving his hand and making the woman pregnant.

Foolish me! And here I was, thinking I'm more than just an incubator for a parasitic, non-sentient clump of cells.

Pule Thamex

Bible God has first dibs on the rights to the bodies of women by dint of might makes right. However, we know that Bible God is not particularly interested in women, in fact, He doesn't even exist anyway. Therefore, the rights to the bodies of women is overseen by God's emissaries on Earth who pretend to be acting on His behalf.

Said emissaries are usually demented loonies who enjoy accumulating wealth under false pretenses and who enjoy exercising power over women and anyone else they think they can dupe, male or female.

And, we certainly know that something which is invisible and is totally non-existent exercises complete control over Right To Life, who is proud to bend the knee.

Swede

So, you'll be working to abolish the death penalty next, and then go on to stop all wars, right?
Or are those OK as long as the judge/executioner and the soldiers are all men?

Pilotess

Everything that happens, happens according to god's plan, right? So, god already knows that a woman will have an abortion, because whatever happens ... god's plan! Maybe you pro-lifers shouldn't interfere with god's plan!

Mayhem

Stonespiral

The entire tract is full of shit.

Noneofyourbusiness

What Raised By Horses said. And even if you do believe in God, sane religious people believe in a divinely-endowed right to ownership of one's own body. Also, scientific evidence shows that an embryo is not a person with a life or mind of its own. So much fail.

Jordab

@ Shykid: Oh, damn, it's three weeks, not three months? That's just.. I don't even... How could they even put out such dribble?

Jordab

@ Shykid: Oh, damn, it's three weeks, not three months? That's just.. I don't even... How could they even put out such dribble?

nazani14

@Jordab- A fetus doesn't feel pain before about 26 weeks. Before that time it may move if touched, but this is just a reflex- it can't feel pain because the brain is not developed enough to be conscious of its own existence. Ask a neurologist.