1 2 3 4
No, we haven't proven your god to be anymore than a goat herders fairy-tale. No, we don't know everything but we know a whole hell of a lot more than we did under xian rule. We also keep learning to clear away the I don't knows, you just slap on a goddidit and consider a job well done.
6/11/2012 11:14:06 AM
Filin De Blanc
What if we were to call all that uncertainty Princess Celestia? Have I just proven Princess Celestia's existence?
6/11/2012 11:18:56 AM
What is this guy saying?
6/11/2012 11:22:57 AM
Cthulhu might be that uncertainty. You just don't know it.... yet
6/11/2012 11:24:28 AM
I do believe Mr. Neil DeGrasse Tyson has something to say to your God of the Gaps:
6/11/2012 11:25:12 AM
@Filin: Since we're talking about 'uncertainty' here, wouldn't it be more accurate to call it Discord?
6/11/2012 11:33:37 AM
I don't sneer at people who have been defrauded by the World's Oldest Scam. If it makes them happy, so much the better for them. If they would like to swallow the red pill some day, so much the better for the human race.
I do however, sneer at people who use faulty logic to prove that anyone other than the Flying Spaghetti Monster is the creator of the universe.
Flip that around and call God, "uncertainty" and you might go a long way toward annihilating your own deity. Converse Law of equality, Kermit.
@ FeralDog: Hail Eris!
6/11/2012 11:33:47 AM
God = Uncertainty. Got it. Thanks.
6/11/2012 11:38:04 AM
It's more like the other way around: Uncertainty = God
6/11/2012 11:47:19 AM
Now think about this. What if we were to call all that "stupidity," I don't know ... Ambafrog!
6/11/2012 11:49:34 AM
may you be touched
I prefer to call it the FSM. After all, you need all those noodley appendages to interact with all those quantum thingys.
6/11/2012 12:13:45 PM
The rainbow thing is probably cultural or a personal taste issue, actually. I don't mind them but I don't exactly find them 'beautiful'. Kind of cool, maybe, since I know how they work. Definitely interesting and maybe even a little bit pretty, if they're particularly vivid(such as those cast on a white ceiling in a dim or darkened room by a prism). But beautiful? Massive overstatement.
I'd also like to reiterate the cries of hail Eris and ia Cthulhu, as more appropriate fillers for uncertainty.
6/11/2012 12:24:02 PM
Your God-of-the-gaps is getting smaller all the time. And it's unnecessary anyway. It's entirely possible to be both a person of faith and accept science, I do it everyday. What isn't compatible is batshit fundie Biblical literalism and science.
6/11/2012 12:34:47 PM
So, the uncertainty in quantum physics will give me fake magic powers if I give it 10% of my money? Also, it wants me to let it make family planning decisions for me? Huh? I love these freaks.
6/11/2012 12:37:59 PM
Now think about this. What if we were to call all that, “Uncertainty” I don’t know.... God!
You guys are funny. You’ve proved God exists and don’t even realize it. Yet.
Fine, if your definition of "God" is simply uncertainty then your version of God exists. I can call my desk lamp "God" too and claim that it exists. The problem is that I'm pretty sure your God is more than just uncertainty. I'm pretty sure you also think he had a son who was a carpenter in the middle east who rose from the dead and that's not the same thing as quantum uncertainty and if that's so then you shouldn't go using the same label interchangeably because you are referring to two different concepts. Words exist to communicate concepts and while it is entirely possible to call a lamp a god or call a cactus a chair equivocating concepts is not a wise idea, especially if you need to sit down ;).
In the same way that my lamp never walked on water and therefore cannot be proof of your god, quantum uncertainty never wrote down a bunch of civil laws to follow in a 2000 year old book so it too cannot be used as proof of your god.
6/11/2012 12:39:45 PM
One could, theoretically, refer to uncertainty as "God." However, it would not be the filthy god you worship, because it would not be an omniscient, omnipotent, anthropomorphized being that created the universe, and your religion would still be utterly unsubstantiated.
6/11/2012 12:44:53 PM
"Now think about this. What if we were to call all that, “Uncertainty” I don’t know.... God!"
Theism: making an idol out of ignorance since 30,000 B.C.
6/11/2012 12:54:09 PM
Right, so your god is uncertainty. That means that every time we become certain about something which we were previously uncertain, your god gets smaller.
Doesn't reconcile well with your all powerful omni-God does it?
6/11/2012 12:55:11 PM
Actually, all you have proven is that you are a moron.
Science is the best method for explaining the universe. What you have is a book of fairy tales and mythology that explains nothing.
Yours is simply another "god of the gaps" argument.
6/11/2012 1:21:17 PM
Among unprovable beliefs there are rational ones and ones just pulled out of
your ... thin air. An unprovable belief that the chair you're sitting on will continue to exist is far different than an unprovable belief that there exists some unknown magician that can poof things into existence by some unknown magical process.
Religious folk don't just have faith that God exists. They also believe that God’s actions may be influenced, for better or worse, by human thought or behavior, and that we humans – or at least some select group of us - know how to do this.
No one can prove God doesn't exist. No one can prove Santa Claus doesn't exist, either. It is these other two beliefs that have virtually no support. If you went to a bunch of doctors with a stomach ache, and one said you had a broken foot, the next said you had AIDS and the third said you had to put the lime in the coconut and drink it all up, you’d conclude that none of them really had any idea what they were talking about. Yet one religion tells us God wants you to wear a yarmulke and eat chicken and cheesecake with separate forks, another says He wants you to bow towards Mecca and recite stuff in Arabic five times a day and a third says you have to be submerged in water and telepathically inform Jesus that you’re "born again" and accept him as your personal savior.
6/11/2012 1:25:15 PM
I prefer to call all that uncertainty "Judith".
I've always liked that name.
6/11/2012 1:29:57 PM
You guys are funny. You've proved you know jack shit about anything and you don't even realize it. You never will.
6/11/2012 1:32:28 PM
6/11/2012 1:34:21 PM
So, god until recently was the creator of all things, omnipotent and omnipresent...now he is "uncertainty". That gap is getting pretty small...I bet you are glad that it hasn't closed. Yet.
PS - Well put dionysus
6/11/2012 1:40:11 PM
They really can't grasp the concept of evidence can they?
6/11/2012 1:41:07 PM
1 2 3 4