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#1412010
Smurfette Principle
"They were not homosexuals [then]...they just decided all of a sudden, 'I think I'm going to be gay,'"
Why yes, they all decided to be one of the most hated and marginalized groups in America. What genius!
"I find that a big problem, not being allowed to convert other people to my religion."
...what.
6/11/2012 10:37:51 AM
#1412017
Frelus
So, lets say homosexualism was "a belief"....
Wouldn't you find it offensive if you were not allowed to "convert" people to that..."belief"?
I mean, even on this part the argument fails, not to mention the fact that it IS NOT A GODDAMN DECISION.
Really.
6/11/2012 10:42:00 AM
#1412022
J. James
What a jackass. He's fourteen, though, so he gets a bit of a break. He's probably just parroting what his pastor or whatever told him.
6/11/2012 10:49:17 AM
#1412024
Filin De Blanc
I can't pick on this kid. He's fourteen; he'll probably look back on this shamefaced one day.
6/11/2012 10:49:47 AM
#1412025
Ebon
""The person is not born that way, no matter what Lady Gaga says...it is a decision.""
Homosexuality was categorically proven to be biological nearly four years ago. This is not up for debate any more. I know fundies loathe science but try and keep up.
""They were not homosexuals [then]...they just decided all of a sudden, 'I think I'm going to be gay,'"
1) They simply woke up one morning and decided to become on of the most hated minorities in the USA, one of the very few minorities where it's still (somewhat) socially acceptable to accuse them of mass child-molestation?
2) Empirical proof or I call bullshit. In fact, I'm just going to call BULLSHIT right now because that doesn't happen ever.
""I'm going to tell you this, guys: President Obama...Vice President Biden...is making kids gay!"
By being in devoted heterosexual marriages? No, they are just making life slightly better for people who are already gay. Again, try and keep up.
"But when you're trying to teach them the word of God and they consider that bullying...I find that a big problem, not being allowed to convert other people to my religion."
My emphasis. Ladies and gentlemen and undecideds, the prosecution rests.
6/11/2012 10:50:39 AM
#1412044
RiJayden
"But when you're trying to teach them the word of God and they consider that bullying...I find that a big problem, not being allowed to convert other people to my religion."
Isn't this the motto of ALL fundies?
6/11/2012 11:26:33 AM
#1412047
Mad_Jester
I assume, then, that you'd stand there listening patiently at the door if someone were to come tell you the good news of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, and preach to you from the Loose Canon?
No? That's odd- you fundies are usually so fair-minded. (Shit, think I broke my sarcasmoscope.)
6/11/2012 11:31:35 AM
#1412048
OhJohnNo
A fourteen-year-old is allowed to host a twice-weekly show?
That's problematic without the fundie-ness.
6/11/2012 11:32:05 AM
#1412053
Old Viking
Whenever I'm pondering an important matter I always seek the advice of a fourteen-year-old Pentecostal Christian.
6/11/2012 11:43:46 AM
#1412054
breakerslion
"The person is not born that way, no matter what Lady Gaga says...it is a decision."
After confessing that he was once friends with some kids who have since come out as gay, he notes, "I was not a self-righteous prick [then]...I just decided all of a sudden, 'I think I'm going to be a pulpit-pounding prick,'" before he eventually concludes, "I'm going to tell you this, guys: reacting to President Obama...Vice President Biden...is making kids homophobic assholes!"
Fixed it for you, Caiden. I'm sure you meant to talk about someone you knew something about....
6/11/2012 11:44:11 AM
#1412059
Swede
Fourteen-year-olds should be in school, learning stuff about the world. Not be on TV-shows and trying to teach stuff about the world, which they know very little about at that tender age.
They were gay then too, stupid, they were just too scared to tell anyone. And, if they are about as young as you are, child, they oughtn't to have that much of a previous sex-life anyway.
President Obama and Vice President Biden ARE making life a little more bearable for gay kids. If you think you can choose to be gay, then you must be at least bi-sexual, idiot.
So, you're saying that gay kids ought to be allowed to convert people to their belief? Good to know.
6/11/2012 11:50:27 AM
#1412062
RiJayden
@OhJohnNo: He's probably homeskulled by his mom/sister
@Swede: Being gay isn't just about sex it's the attraction. You can be a gay asexual. But I think you know that, and I may have just read that wrong.
6/11/2012 11:52:44 AM
#1412068
Lucilius
This is sad. Kid's been brainwashed by homophobes.
6/11/2012 12:05:46 PM
#1412070
Meeeh
Indoctrinated from diaper time!
Religious people should treat their religion like their genitalia - don't wave it around in public and don't shove it down kids throats!
This kid clearly has no clue what he is talking about, just regurgitating what he has been told.
6/11/2012 12:07:25 PM
#1412078
Lotus-thing
Caiden, I know you think you're wise beyond your years and know all there is to know about these things. Fourteen year olds generally do, and it's a normal stage of psychological development. But when you are grown up and have learned a little more about the world, then come talk to us about sexual orientation and choices. If you haven't changed your mind by then, you're going to find that a lot of people think you're kind of dim. If you have, then you've actually learned something.
6/11/2012 12:16:32 PM
#1412086
dionysus
I just realized. Christians are like the Borg. "You will be assimilated!".
6/11/2012 12:32:22 PM
#1412090
Anon
Methinks this kid protests too much...
6/11/2012 12:35:40 PM
#1412106
Higgs Boson
What this kid is saying is simply grotesque; we all know that. However, since he is just 14 years old, I am a little concerned about the amount of shit he is likely to get now that he has become a (relatively) well-known figure.
I don't think anyone is going to try to harm him, but you can pretty much guarantee that there will be at least a few hundred people out there who can't control their righteous indignation, and send him messages that either look like death threats, or are laced with profanity and aggression towards him.
All it takes is a handful of these kinds of messages; they will be accumulated and presented back to everyone in news pieces as evidence of the "intolerance" of liberals and homosexuals. He will become a "free-speech martyr" among right-wing Christians, and the story will be that "liberal thugs send death threats to 14-year-old boy simply for spreading the Gospel" etc etc.
It is so predictable, that the conspiracy theory part of me wonders if this is the response that they expressly want to generate; perhaps not Caiden himself, but rather someone who is in some way in charge of him.
I hope he doesn't have to deal with too much shit, but sadly it is pretty much inevitable. The shame he feels when he is older (if he comes to his senses) will be sufficient "punishment" in my book.
6/11/2012 12:56:13 PM
#1412122
Berny
"I find that a big problem, not being allowed to convert other people to my religion."
The moment I tell you to piss off with your religious bullshit is when you are supposed to shut up. If you have a problem with that, tough titty.
6/11/2012 1:24:39 PM
#1412128
John
OK, you don't like homosexuality and you're opposed to bullying gays. I don't like sushi and I'm opposed to bullying sushi-eaters. Thanks for sharing.
6/11/2012 1:32:14 PM
#1412132
JohnTheAtheist
As some astute FSTDT poster recently pointed out you have to question the heterosexuality of anyone who things homosexuality is a choice. Any true heterosexual realizes that there is not a choice to be made.
That being said Caiden is a case in point for the harm that parents can do to their kids through religion. Sad, that we have a 14 year old bigot.
6/11/2012 1:37:18 PM
#1412137
Mister Spak
"The person is not born that way, no matter what Lady Gaga says...it is a decision."
The person is born that way, no matter what Cowger says... it is not a decision.
"Cowger, who is identified by The New Civil Rights Movement as a Pentecostal Christian, slams homosexuality as "a perverted belief, it's immoral and not natural"
6/11/2012 1:46:41 PM
#1412145
Thinking Allowed
@J. James
He doesn't get a break. If he wants to put himself out there for the world to see...then he should man up and take the criticism as well.
6/11/2012 2:07:36 PM
#1412149
checkmate
Fourteen?
Well then, I guess he knows what he's talking about. He's certainly not just repeating what his seniors have told him. Nooo, of course not.
6/11/2012 2:18:33 PM
#1412150
Pilotess
We gonna have a problem, young man! I want to be converted to your religion about as much as you want to be converted to mine! If somebody other than a Christian would recruit kids for their religous sect, would you like that?
And please, could you tell me the exact date when you decided to be straight?
6/11/2012 2:19:03 PM
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