Good thing it's all just in this guy's imagination. Wonder where they get always get that kind of information... or what weird kind of filter they have inside their heads.
6/11/2012 3:42:42 AM
The Walter Reed Medical Center was closed last year, and all of this hoopla was complete BS anyway.
6/11/2012 3:59:07 AM
When I read "jug-eared", I immediately thougt about George W Bush.
"But" I thought, "he's hardly Marxist. Must be someone very far to the right to think he's Marxist..."
6/11/2012 4:15:54 AM
In any hospital, if the patient wants a chaplain, they'll give him one. What they don't need is some bible-banger coming in and using a patient's agony to force a death-bed conversion.
6/11/2012 4:48:24 AM
1) He saved the banks and gave insurance companies about thirty million new customers. If he's a Marxist, he sucks at it.
2) Walter Reed closed down last year.
3) Citation or GTFO.
6/11/2012 5:01:36 AM
OBAMA IS NOT A MARXIST
Please write this out a million times so it gets into your thick fundie brain.
6/11/2012 5:14:52 AM
"After three years of ideological warfare, the administration's intent is clear: to disarm the military of its biggest weapon. Faith."
Are you talking about sidearm faith or 40 mm faith? Or maybe clusterfaith?
"there is absolutely nothing in the Constitution that empowers the government to stop family members from giving Bibles or crosses to their loved ones."
Then you won't mind if someone brings in a koran.
6/11/2012 5:20:37 AM
So nothing to indicate that anyone woke up in communist China.
No "Jug-Eared Marxist" either
Just a closed compound, and a fundie's wild imagination
6/11/2012 5:30:31 AM
I thought this was savagesusie at first. Now I'm depressed that there are multiple people like her.
6/11/2012 6:05:42 AM
You kidding? I saw many reports of military being evangelized to and strongly encouraged to come to church ceremonies. How is that anything like Christianity being shunned?
6/11/2012 6:10:43 AM
"How much more proof do you need????"
Well, given that everything you spouted was utter bullshit...
6/11/2012 6:26:35 AM
Raised by Horses
"OBAMA IS NOT A MARXIST"
Indeed. And China is not a communist state. You can call your Chevy a Ferrari, but that don't make it one.
6/11/2012 6:53:49 AM
Somehow I'm guessing that a rule banning religious proselytizing by "visitors" (i.e., self-appointed soul savers making the rounds pushing bibles onto injured soldiers) has been deliberately misinterpreted by idiotic right-wing fundies to mean that nobody whatsoever can bring any religious item into the hospital. That's the way it usually happens with things like this that get blown way out of proportion.
Aha, I was right. From the snopes page listed above:
The policy in question was established after receiving complaints from Warriors and their families at both Walter Reed Army Medical Center and National Naval Medical Center who were approached by unsolicited faith-based groups visiting the inpatient wards. Patients and families reported that these groups were proselytizing and making disparaging remarks about Warrior’s service, sometimes using threatening and condemning language. According to the patients, some visits were persistent and repeated.
6/11/2012 7:29:32 AM
Where exactly does bestiality come into this?
I mean what?
Also, lies and lies.
6/11/2012 7:34:03 AM
As Snopes says:
On 14 September 2011, Col. C.W. Callahan, Chief of Staff of the Walter Reed National Military Medical Center, issued a memorandum headed "WOUNDED, ILL AND INJURED PARTNERS IN CARE GUIDELINES" with the expressed purpose of providing revised guidelines for the hospital's patient visitation policies. Most of the memo dealt with routine matters such as setting visiting hours and maximum group sizes, but one item near the end of the memo caused a good deal of public outcry when it was made public:
No religious items (i.e. Bibles, reading material, and/or artifacts) are allowed to be given away or used during a visit.
This much of the claim is true.
The anti-Obama rant is nonsense, but there are many injured who want what they call 'spiritual solace' and I'd stand up for their right to receive it.
Not that the Hospital intended to deny that to them, but the letter of the law really ought to reflect its intent.
6/11/2012 7:45:50 AM
Let me get this right... a guideline is issued that is intended to stop the unwanted and disgusting "visits" from a group that was being disruptive and attacking the service those soldiers have given... and fucknuts like this wanker are pissed because it able to be used to stop ALL religious visits?
It's almost like they don't give a shit until it's their faith that's hampered.
6/11/2012 9:42:23 AM
"jug-eared" that's a new one....
6/11/2012 10:28:26 AM
Filin De Blanc
Do these people not realize that "Marxist" has an actual definition, and isn't just a synonym for "douchebag"?
6/11/2012 10:51:56 AM
You have to admit, one could list "Commander, Walter Reed National Military Medical Center" as the fundie, but apparently this was a(nother) case of spectacularly poor wording. The idea was to protect the patients from unwanted proselytizing, which a ban on religious artifacts doesn't really prevent.
Of course, considering that being on the clock hasn't stopped the most zealous in the military from proselytizing, I don't quite know what it would take.
6/11/2012 12:09:44 PM
The frothing-at-the-mouth version of hyperbole is alive and well.
6/11/2012 12:13:02 PM
"And this time, it has a high-value target: the Bible."
High value to who? Certainly not bed ridden soldiers, who might not be christian.
6/11/2012 12:33:20 PM
Lying for Jeebus again.
The new regs were due to the large number of preachy assholes who invited themselves into rooms where the wounded couldn't get away from them.
Wiccan chaplains came in under Bush the First, as I recall.
6/11/2012 12:33:29 PM
The policy was rescinded shortly after, with apologies that it was badly worded.
But let's all use this as an excuse to lash out at Obama instead of looking for the facts of the matter.
6/11/2012 1:05:18 PM
So now nobody is allowed to march into a hospital reserved for wounded and shell-shocked soldiers in an attempt to take advantage of their fragile state of mind by burying them in dogma or to storm around preaching about holy war.
I notice you admit and explicitly acknowledge that it's random visitors forbidden to distribute pamphlets to people, call me back if they start blocking private meetings or confessions with priests when the patients themselves request them.
6/11/2012 2:53:41 PM
Where do these idiots get the idea that Christianity is censored?!?
6/11/2012 3:22:07 PM