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Walter Reed Medical Center under attack by the Jug-Eared Marxist and his minions.

The soldiers who wake up in Walter Reed Medical Center are in Maryland --not communist China . But under the Navy's new rules, they may not know the difference! After months of peeling away the military's core values, Obama's army is on the move. And this time, it has a high-value target: the Bible. In a memo obtained by FRC, Navy officials have announced that "no religious items (including Bibles, reading material, and/or artifacts) are allowed to be given away or used during a visit." The new orders are buried in a four-page document about patient care, which an Army officer forwarded to us in disbelief. Effective immediately, families, friends, and even pastors will have to check their beliefs at the door to visit one of the largest military hospitals in the United States . Last night, after we circulated the memo to leaders on the Hill, an outraged Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) took to the House floor and blasted the policy. "Mr. Speaker, these military men and women who are recovering at Walter Reed and Bethesda have given their all for America ... They've defended and taken an oath to the Constitution, and here they are. The people that come to visit them can't bring a religious artifact? They can't bring a Bible? ...A priest can't walk in with the Eucharist and offer communion to a patient who might be on their deathbed because it's prohibited in this memo from the Department of the Navy?"

This is Obama's military, where homosexuality is celebrated and Christianity is censored; where witches are financed and crosses are scorned; where bestiality is embraced and Bibles are banned; where same-sex "weddings" are encouraged but international charity is not. After three years of ideological warfare, the administration's intent is clear: to disarm the military of its biggest weapon. Faith. Regardless of President Obama's agenda, there is absolutely nothing in the Constitution that empowers the government to stop family members from giving Bibles or crosses to their loved ones. And from a PR standpoint, I'm not sure the best way to boost approval ratings is by denying comfort to wounded warriors. Unfortunately for our troops, who have endured so much turmoil under the Obama administration, this is another blow. Hopefully, with the help of Congressman King and others, it's only a temporary one.

America is losing everyday with this president. I for one do not believe America can survive these onslaughts from the Obama's administration. I challenge all who read this to vote Obama out before it's too late. How much more proof do you need????

Timberwolf, Where Liberty Dwells 33 Comments [6/11/2012 3:31:21 AM]
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#1411781
Diatryma

Good thing it's all just in this guy's imagination. Wonder where they get always get that kind of information... or what weird kind of filter they have inside their heads.

6/11/2012 3:42:42 AM
#1411791
chaosof99

The Walter Reed Medical Center was closed last year, and all of this hoopla was complete BS anyway.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/walterreed.asp

6/11/2012 3:59:07 AM
#1411798


When I read "jug-eared", I immediately thougt about George W Bush.
"But" I thought, "he's hardly Marxist. Must be someone very far to the right to think he's Marxist..."

6/11/2012 4:15:54 AM
#1411814
Reynardine

In any hospital, if the patient wants a chaplain, they'll give him one. What they don't need is some bible-banger coming in and using a patient's agony to force a death-bed conversion.

6/11/2012 4:48:24 AM
#1411822
Ebon

1) He saved the banks and gave insurance companies about thirty million new customers. If he's a Marxist, he sucks at it.
2) Walter Reed closed down last year.
3) Citation or GTFO.

6/11/2012 5:01:36 AM
#1411834
Often Partisan

OBAMA IS NOT A MARXIST

Please write this out a million times so it gets into your thick fundie brain.

6/11/2012 5:14:52 AM
#1411841
Mister Spak

"After three years of ideological warfare, the administration's intent is clear: to disarm the military of its biggest weapon. Faith."

Are you talking about sidearm faith or 40 mm faith? Or maybe clusterfaith?

"there is absolutely nothing in the Constitution that empowers the government to stop family members from giving Bibles or crosses to their loved ones."

Then you won't mind if someone brings in a koran.

6/11/2012 5:20:37 AM
#1411851
D Laurier

So nothing to indicate that anyone woke up in communist China.
No "Jug-Eared Marxist" either
Just a closed compound, and a fundie's wild imagination

6/11/2012 5:30:31 AM
#1411873
OhJohnNo

I thought this was savagesusie at first. Now I'm depressed that there are multiple people like her.

6/11/2012 6:05:42 AM
#1411876
dionysus

You kidding? I saw many reports of military being evangelized to and strongly encouraged to come to church ceremonies. How is that anything like Christianity being shunned?

6/11/2012 6:10:43 AM
#1411883
Nerikull

"How much more proof do you need????"

Well, given that everything you spouted was utter bullshit...

6/11/2012 6:26:35 AM
#1411903
Raised by Horses

@Often Partisan
"OBAMA IS NOT A MARXIST"

Indeed. And China is not a communist state. You can call your Chevy a Ferrari, but that don't make it one.

6/11/2012 6:53:49 AM
#1411927
Doubting Thomas

Somehow I'm guessing that a rule banning religious proselytizing by "visitors" (i.e., self-appointed soul savers making the rounds pushing bibles onto injured soldiers) has been deliberately misinterpreted by idiotic right-wing fundies to mean that nobody whatsoever can bring any religious item into the hospital. That's the way it usually happens with things like this that get blown way out of proportion.

Aha, I was right. From the snopes page listed above:

The policy in question was established after receiving complaints from Warriors and their families at both Walter Reed Army Medical Center and National Naval Medical Center who were approached by unsolicited faith-based groups visiting the inpatient wards. Patients and families reported that these groups were proselytizing and making disparaging remarks about Warrior’s service, sometimes using threatening and condemning language. According to the patients, some visits were persistent and repeated.

6/11/2012 7:29:32 AM
#1411934
fishtank

Where exactly does bestiality come into this?

I mean what?

Also, lies and lies.

6/11/2012 7:34:03 AM
#1411944
John_in_Oz

As Snopes says:
On 14 September 2011, Col. C.W. Callahan, Chief of Staff of the Walter Reed National Military Medical Center, issued a memorandum headed "WOUNDED, ILL AND INJURED PARTNERS IN CARE GUIDELINES" with the expressed purpose of providing revised guidelines for the hospital's patient visitation policies. Most of the memo dealt with routine matters such as setting visiting hours and maximum group sizes, but one item near the end of the memo caused a good deal of public outcry when it was made public:

No religious items (i.e. Bibles, reading material, and/or artifacts) are allowed to be given away or used during a visit.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/info/bibles.pdf
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This much of the claim is true.

The anti-Obama rant is nonsense, but there are many injured who want what they call 'spiritual solace' and I'd stand up for their right to receive it.
Not that the Hospital intended to deny that to them, but the letter of the law really ought to reflect its intent.

6/11/2012 7:45:50 AM
#1411988


Let me get this right... a guideline is issued that is intended to stop the unwanted and disgusting "visits" from a group that was being disruptive and attacking the service those soldiers have given... and fucknuts like this wanker are pissed because it able to be used to stop ALL religious visits?

It's almost like they don't give a shit until it's their faith that's hampered.

6/11/2012 9:42:23 AM
#1412003
SpukiKitty

"jug-eared" that's a new one....

6/11/2012 10:28:26 AM
#1412026
Filin De Blanc

Do these people not realize that "Marxist" has an actual definition, and isn't just a synonym for "douchebag"?

6/11/2012 10:51:56 AM
#1412072
Hertzyscowicz

You have to admit, one could list "Commander, Walter Reed National Military Medical Center" as the fundie, but apparently this was a(nother) case of spectacularly poor wording. The idea was to protect the patients from unwanted proselytizing, which a ban on religious artifacts doesn't really prevent.

Of course, considering that being on the clock hasn't stopped the most zealous in the military from proselytizing, I don't quite know what it would take.

6/11/2012 12:09:44 PM
#1412074
Old Viking

The frothing-at-the-mouth version of hyperbole is alive and well.

6/11/2012 12:13:02 PM
#1412087
RiJayden

"And this time, it has a high-value target: the Bible."
High value to who? Certainly not bed ridden soldiers, who might not be christian.

6/11/2012 12:33:20 PM
#1412088
nazani14

Lying for Jeebus again.
The new regs were due to the large number of preachy assholes who invited themselves into rooms where the wounded couldn't get away from them.

Wiccan chaplains came in under Bush the First, as I recall.

6/11/2012 12:33:29 PM
#1412114
Zimmer

The policy was rescinded shortly after, with apologies that it was badly worded.

But let's all use this as an excuse to lash out at Obama instead of looking for the facts of the matter.

6/11/2012 1:05:18 PM
#1412156
Passerby

So now nobody is allowed to march into a hospital reserved for wounded and shell-shocked soldiers in an attempt to take advantage of their fragile state of mind by burying them in dogma or to storm around preaching about holy war.

I notice you admit and explicitly acknowledge that it's random visitors forbidden to distribute pamphlets to people, call me back if they start blocking private meetings or confessions with priests when the patients themselves request them.

6/11/2012 2:53:41 PM
#1412166
Skatepunk

Where do these idiots get the idea that Christianity is censored?!?

6/11/2012 3:22:07 PM
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