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#1411782
Oh My Dog!
Is scientificating even a word?
So...
a concept is bad just because a pagan thought it up?
Is this what you are saying?
By that logic civilization is a bad thing because the first city-states were built by pagans.
Civilization: you know that thingie where you get to live in a house and not have to worry about lions eating you and such.
6/11/2012 3:44:06 AM
#1411789
Swede
Scientification?
Nice word sallad, godsriddle.
6/11/2012 3:55:46 AM
#1411797
Snide
I've read this twice - and to me it sounds like someone got a little baked after reading the babble.
I don't think the phrase Stoner4christ will catch on, but it should.
6/11/2012 4:11:00 AM
#1411809
David B.
Sophistry at its best!
Also, somewhat ironic that in bashing empiricism, he's dismissing the only source of evidence he has that he's not talking to himself.
And if he rejects sensory experience as a method of obtaining knowledge, that automatically excludes reading the bible, including anything that might or might not have been said by Peter.
6/11/2012 4:39:48 AM
#1411820
Philbert McAdamia
That there scientification requires edumacation to git 'er done.
Evil. Eevilll!
6/11/2012 4:58:53 AM
#1411826
Ebon
This isn't even wrong, it's just complete gibberish. I had to read it three times to be sure it wasn't just me since very bright people talking about unfamiliar subjects sometimes sound like gibberish but no, I was right the first time. This is complete babble.
Also, the way you've constructed the second sentence sounds like you're claiming Aristotle was influenced by Catholicism.
6/11/2012 5:04:59 AM
#1411837
godsriddle is the top drone at the local McDonald's. He/she excels at asking if the customer wants fries or not and upsells large Cokes with the best of them.
6/11/2012 5:16:37 AM
#1411844
Mister Spak
" They actually believe that mass, energy and time exist even though they are utterly undetectable "
Detect this! *causes 9 mm lead mass to move toward fundie with high kinetic energy*
6/11/2012 5:23:52 AM
#1411864
If mass is undetectable, can I drop an anvil on your toe?
6/11/2012 5:55:52 AM
#1411905
Raised by Horses
Mass is undetectable, you say? Have a teaspoon's worth of a neutron star.
Also... 'scientificating' beats verbally defecating any day.
6/11/2012 6:57:15 AM
#1411907
Scientificating. 'Nuff said.
6/11/2012 7:01:25 AM
#1411931
John_in_Oz
The horror! Scientificating instead of animal sacrifice, human sacrifice, suicide bombing or Crusades!
6/11/2012 7:31:52 AM
#1411933
Brendan Rizzo
Why must Americans hate science so?!
6/11/2012 7:33:08 AM
#1411937
fishtank
Word salad anyone?
6/11/2012 7:37:14 AM
#1411947
Doubting Thomas
WTF is this I don't even. The only thing I can say is what if the entire universe were just a figment of my imagination? Naw, couldn't be. I wouldn't imagine stupid idiots like godsriddle.
6/11/2012 7:49:13 AM
#1411967
Flah
It is true that science still doesn't have a firm grasp of what exactly time and energy are. Even mass is a little bit tricky. But the funny thing is that when you put these quantities into an equation, you wind up with these results that, for some reason, make sense in the observable world.
6/11/2012 8:37:13 AM
#1411985
mikek44224
Science employs exactly ONE unproven assumption:
The laws governing reality are knowable to the human intellect.
If this is not true, then no other means of acquiring information can be any more reliable, including supernatural boogedy boogedy.
6/11/2012 9:32:23 AM
#1411994
Skyknight
And here's the rest of it:
This is why visible cosmic history is the best test for the laws of physics. No orbit in any galaxy is following the laws of physics, which is why they have invented four times as much invisible matter as the natural visible kind. Every galaxy needs a unique amount and distribution of invisible matter to try to force it to follow the laws of physics, yet even then none of them do. No ancient atom clocked the frequencies of modern atoms, so they invent pure magic - the vacuum of spacetime is stretching itself (pullying more "energy out of the undetectable vacuum" to stretch the vacuum, move galaxies that are standing still relative to local vacuums and stretch all the frequencies of light passing through the void. Scientists have invented the greatest system of mythology every. Why? Because they never question their basic assumption - the one the Bible predicted.
Yet what we observe in the only history that is visible as it happened, galactic history, is biblical creation and biblical cosmic history. You don't need to imagine imaginary symbolical ways of measuring undetectable things like physicists do - you can see with sight how galaxies intrinsically grew from tiny naked globs as the stars continued to accelerate out - just like the Scriptures state. How great will be the triumph of the word of God over the scientists.
And that's just that particular post. Earlier on, Godsriddle had this to say:
We see exactly what the Bible states that the universe is ancient.
We observe that orbits everywhere continue to accelerate just like our ancestors claimed happened here to which the bible acknowledges. In fact, the Bible even describes the geological ages that passed in few days back when the Mediterranean used to dry up repeatedly during one persons lifetime as their faces grew huge thick brows from old age. Read Job 14.
I'm having trouble figuring out WHAT Godsriddle thinks governs existence, other than constant divine manipulation. In another point, by the way, he marks those immense brows as being NEANDERTHAL brows--to him, Neanderthals were "just" Homo sapiens from the earliest of its existence. As for how he understands atomic clocks...
An atomic clock is really two clocks that tune each other in a feedback loop. The first clock irradiates cesium. The second counts the emissions from the relaxing cesium and tunes the first clock for maximum emission amplitude. If cesium atoms are changing RELATIONALLY (as all atoms are observed to change RELATIONALLY throughout cosmic history), then the atomic clocks would keep tuning themselves and scientists would continue to blindly measure things that only exist in their minds.
Note that the thread seems to be about the idea of whether or not physical laws were different in the past. (Looks like Godsriddle is in the they-were-different camp.) Godsriddle does claim that visible cosmic history and the Bible's claims of creation reinforce each other, in any case...
(The board is out of commission for the non. I'll have to check back later...)
6/11/2012 9:56:04 AM
#1412001
farpadokly
If you take this to its logical conclusion, nothing exists, including the Bible. This person has pulled out the rug from under himself, apparently without noticing.
6/11/2012 10:25:06 AM
#1412005
SpukiKitty
What the heck are you talking about? You sound like the Sokal Hoax! Y'want some dizzy dressing & crazy croutons with that word salad?
6/11/2012 10:31:10 AM
#1412016
Ludd
Good thing you managed to pray your message onto the internet without the use of one of those evil tools of scientificating (wtf?), the computer.
6/11/2012 10:41:03 AM
#1412021
Madbull
@Snide
I've read this twice - and to me it sounds like someone got a little baked after reading the babble.
I don't think the phrase Stoner4christ will catch on, but it should.
Rastafarianism FTW.
6/11/2012 10:46:38 AM
#1412028
rw23
@Doubting Thomas
> The only thing I can say is what if the entire universe were just a figment of my imagination? Naw, couldn't be. I wouldn't imagine stupid idiots like godsriddle.
It's more probable that the entire universe is the figment of your imagination than it is that godsriddle is correct (assuming your imagination introduces fewer discrepancies with observable reality than does his/her/its).
6/11/2012 10:54:01 AM
#1412046
Rabbit of Caerbannog
Scientificating? Way to demomonstrate your ejumakashun.
6/11/2012 11:27:47 AM
#1412080
Old Viking
Exhausting and hysterical. That's not easy.
6/11/2012 12:18:55 PM
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