Two years old and FSTDT raked the moronic Catholic Church and that asshole bishop over the coals at the time.
Sister Margaret McBride and the hospital ethics committee were the only ones with a brain in this entire sorry affair.
6/10/2012 5:45:04 PM
Oh My Dog!
This is the sort of nonsense that is causing Christianity to lose adherents in droves.
Fundies, this is why you are irrelevant.
6/10/2012 5:46:20 PM
Celibate old men in dresses telling women what they can do with their bodies. How I hate religions!!!
6/10/2012 5:48:02 PM
Hats off to the nun for taking a stand and willing to be excommunicated for it.
Minus several million points to the bishop.
6/10/2012 6:02:35 PM
Raised by Horses
Christianity, the religion of Morality and Love.
I think we need not say any more. Religion indicts itself through its own actions.
6/10/2012 6:26:34 PM
Well, old or not, it would be interesting to see how Ms. McBride is doing these days, having been freed from the bondage of her vows.
I bet she's doing better than before.
6/10/2012 6:28:19 PM
Filin De Blanc
"How dare you not let a woman die a horrible and completely preventable death!"
6/10/2012 7:08:48 PM
""The Catholic Church will continue to defend life and proclaim the evil of abortion without compromise, and must act to correct even her own members if they fail in this duty," the bishop said."
So, by "defending life" we should let two people die instead of one.
Because we fear hell so much we'd rather indirectly cause two death instead of directly cause one.
6/10/2012 7:11:54 PM
As a (lapsed) cradle Catholic brought up in the 60's, I distincly remember being taught that, under Church teaching, when the mother's life was in danger if the pregnancy continued, then abortion was acceptable to save the mother's life.
The Vatican should have kicked this Bishop's arse so hard he'd still be in orbit. Is this story for real or what?
6/10/2012 7:53:48 PM
Sorry. Double post. Again!
6/10/2012 7:54:32 PM
I especially enjoyed the comment about the 11 week old fetus being given a chance at life by delivering it via c-section. Fucking dullard.
6/10/2012 8:28:00 PM
@thirddrop yes its a real event, but not current. The hospital got lots of very bad press from it.
6/10/2012 8:28:43 PM
it seems she was reinstated in Dec 2011 with the hospital.
6/10/2012 8:34:10 PM
Bishop, the official stance of the Catholic Church is that abortion is acceptable if the life of the mother is at risk. This moron doesn't even know what he claims his own religion believes.
6/10/2012 9:02:45 PM
What do you get by not aborting the fetus? Two lost lives. An 11 week old fetus is far too young to survive without the mother. If the life of the mother is at risk then the life of that fetus if forfeit no matter what. At least with abortion you could actually save a life!
This is what happens when unthinking dogma replaces true morality.
6/10/2012 9:11:54 PM
You'd have to be seriously fucked in the head to think that God wouldn't want a fetus aborted if not aborting it would kill it and mother alike.
But then, people who are fucked in the head are why this site exists.
6/10/2012 11:55:09 PM
With all the bullshit coming from Arizona lately, this woman is very brave for doing this. I'd give her a medal if I could. The Bishop, and all the other Arizonans against women's rights can screw themselves.
6/11/2012 12:50:10 AM
She did the right thing. It's a travesty of professional judgement that she was demoted in her job (I hope she was either reinstated or compensated), but it's GOOD that she was excommunicated. One less nun in the World, and hopefully now a stronger, wiser, more independent woman who no longer depends on stupid bishops or a stupid religious hierarchy.
6/11/2012 2:35:08 AM
Oh noes! She put the interests of an adult reasoning woman with a desire to live above a collection of cells with no self awareness and no desire to live.
Oh the humanity!
6/11/2012 3:28:35 AM
Life begins at conception and ends at birth.
Apatheist and thirddrop:
You are both wrong. In catholic theology not doing an abortion is more important than the womans life. She must die if there is no way to save her without an abortion.
If you ask a catholic fundie what to do in this situation the answer is "the doctor must do his best to save both patients" followed by "there was a woman with cancer who refused chemotherapy because it would harm the baby. The baby was born healthy and the mother heroically died to give her child life" but they never actually answer the question in spite of many repetitions. They know what they will look like if they answer honestly so they will always evade and doubletalk.
6/11/2012 5:24:48 AM
A similar thing happened in Brazil not too long ago. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7930380.stm
This is one reason why people leave religion.
6/11/2012 6:32:14 AM
This is old news.
6/11/2012 7:35:27 AM
Just feel the christian charity in these people.
Cheers for the nun.
6/11/2012 7:41:11 AM
This is why I absolutely hate the Catholic church and the "pro-life" crowd. Absolutely no abortions any time, anywhere, can ever be allowed to happen under any circumstances. If the mother dies because of pregnancy complications, then it's God's will.
(But it was OK for Rick Santorum's wife because she had other kids at home who would have been without a mother had she died.)
6/11/2012 7:54:10 AM
The Catholic Church: Where the life of a inevitably dying fetus has more value than the life of a woman.
6/11/2012 9:14:26 AM