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#1411694
Berny
Old news.
Two years old and FSTDT raked the moronic Catholic Church and that asshole bishop over the coals at the time.
Sister Margaret McBride and the hospital ethics committee were the only ones with a brain in this entire sorry affair.
6/10/2012 5:45:04 PM
#1411695
Oh My Dog!
This is the sort of nonsense that is causing Christianity to lose adherents in droves.
Fundies, this is why you are irrelevant.
6/10/2012 5:46:20 PM
#1411697
evilred
Celibate old men in dresses telling women what they can do with their bodies. How I hate religions!!!
6/10/2012 5:48:02 PM
#1411702
anevilmeme
Hats off to the nun for taking a stand and willing to be excommunicated for it.
Minus several million points to the bishop.
6/10/2012 6:02:35 PM
#1411713
Raised by Horses
Christianity, the religion of Morality and Love.
I think we need not say any more. Religion indicts itself through its own actions.
6/10/2012 6:26:34 PM
#1411715
checkmate
@Berny
Old news.
Well, old or not, it would be interesting to see how Ms. McBride is doing these days, having been freed from the bondage of her vows.
I bet she's doing better than before.
6/10/2012 6:28:19 PM
#1411721
Filin De Blanc
"How dare you not let a woman die a horrible and completely preventable death!"
6/10/2012 7:08:48 PM
#1411723
il-Palazzo
""The Catholic Church will continue to defend life and proclaim the evil of abortion without compromise, and must act to correct even her own members if they fail in this duty," the bishop said."
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So, by "defending life" we should let two people die instead of one.
Because we fear hell so much we'd rather indirectly cause two death instead of directly cause one.
6/10/2012 7:11:54 PM
#1411729
Thirddrop
As a (lapsed) cradle Catholic brought up in the 60's, I distincly remember being taught that, under Church teaching, when the mother's life was in danger if the pregnancy continued, then abortion was acceptable to save the mother's life.
The Vatican should have kicked this Bishop's arse so hard he'd still be in orbit. Is this story for real or what?
6/10/2012 7:53:48 PM
#1411730
Thirddrop
Sorry. Double post. Again!
6/10/2012 7:54:32 PM
#1411735
KittyKaboom
I especially enjoyed the comment about the 11 week old fetus being given a chance at life by delivering it via c-section. Fucking dullard.
6/10/2012 8:28:00 PM
#1411736
@thirddrop yes its a real event, but not current. The hospital got lots of very bad press from it.
6/10/2012 8:28:43 PM
#1411739
it seems she was reinstated in Dec 2011 with the hospital.
6/10/2012 8:34:10 PM
#1411741
Apatheist
Bishop, the official stance of the Catholic Church is that abortion is acceptable if the life of the mother is at risk. This moron doesn't even know what he claims his own religion believes.
6/10/2012 9:02:45 PM
#1411743
Osiris
What do you get by not aborting the fetus? Two lost lives. An 11 week old fetus is far too young to survive without the mother. If the life of the mother is at risk then the life of that fetus if forfeit no matter what. At least with abortion you could actually save a life!
This is what happens when unthinking dogma replaces true morality.
6/10/2012 9:11:54 PM
#1411763
Wehpudicabok
You'd have to be seriously fucked in the head to think that God wouldn't want a fetus aborted if not aborting it would kill it and mother alike.
But then, people who are fucked in the head are why this site exists.
6/10/2012 11:55:09 PM
#1411766
finnugold
With all the bullshit coming from Arizona lately, this woman is very brave for doing this. I'd give her a medal if I could. The Bishop, and all the other Arizonans against women's rights can screw themselves.
6/11/2012 12:50:10 AM
#1411771
whatever
She did the right thing. It's a travesty of professional judgement that she was demoted in her job (I hope she was either reinstated or compensated), but it's GOOD that she was excommunicated. One less nun in the World, and hopefully now a stronger, wiser, more independent woman who no longer depends on stupid bishops or a stupid religious hierarchy.
6/11/2012 2:35:08 AM
#1411778
michael3ov
Oh noes! She put the interests of an adult reasoning woman with a desire to live above a collection of cells with no self awareness and no desire to live.
Oh the humanity!
6/11/2012 3:28:35 AM
#1411847
Mister Spak
Life begins at conception and ends at birth.
Apatheist and thirddrop:
You are both wrong. In catholic theology not doing an abortion is more important than the womans life. She must die if there is no way to save her without an abortion.
If you ask a catholic fundie what to do in this situation the answer is "the doctor must do his best to save both patients" followed by "there was a woman with cancer who refused chemotherapy because it would harm the baby. The baby was born healthy and the mother heroically died to give her child life" but they never actually answer the question in spite of many repetitions. They know what they will look like if they answer honestly so they will always evade and doubletalk.
6/11/2012 5:24:48 AM
#1411886
Nerikull
A similar thing happened in Brazil not too long ago. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7930380.stm
This is one reason why people leave religion.
6/11/2012 6:32:14 AM
#1411936
Brendan Rizzo
This is old news.
6/11/2012 7:35:27 AM
#1411939
fishtank
Just feel the christian charity in these people.
Cheers for the nun.
6/11/2012 7:41:11 AM
#1411951
Doubting Thomas
This is why I absolutely hate the Catholic church and the "pro-life" crowd. Absolutely no abortions any time, anywhere, can ever be allowed to happen under any circumstances. If the mother dies because of pregnancy complications, then it's God's will.
(But it was OK for Rick Santorum's wife because she had other kids at home who would have been without a mother had she died.)
6/11/2012 7:54:10 AM
#1411980
JSS
The Catholic Church: Where the life of a inevitably dying fetus has more value than the life of a woman.
6/11/2012 9:14:26 AM
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