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["I think that you are confused on the definition of abortion. Medical abortion is a procedure that uses various medications to end an established pregnancy. [...] If there never was a pregnancy to begin with, then it cannot be considered abortion."]

No I am not confused.

The medical community's verbal acrobatics in an attempt to redefine preganancy so these drugs do not qualify as aborting is not recognized by the Church. What Webster says is irrelevant. What the Church says is relevant.

1ke, Catholic Answers 42 Comments [6/9/2012 2:34:22 AM]
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#1411172
Tempus

What Webster says is irrelevant. What the Church says is relevant.

And what the medical community says is far more relevant than whatever poisonous, fact-free spew the right-wing authoritarian church bleats.

6/9/2012 2:44:39 AM

#1411194
Tindalos

Relevant to who? Other god-botherers and christ-o-holics? I agree with that.

If your religion doesn't want you to take those drugs - then fine. It is YOUR choice to not do so.

Just don't think you can force the rest of society to bow to bronze-age myth.

6/9/2012 3:41:40 AM

#1411199
Mudak

You make it sound like a desire to terminate a pregnancy is a new thing, something that only started when medicine figured out how to do it safely. I got news for you: it's been around -- and has happened (albeit not safely) -- for as long as humanity has been around.

Interestingly, I'm not aware of a single bible verse that specifically calls out terminating a pregnancy; we've got admonitions not to kill, and those commandments have been extended to fetuses, zygotes, and embryos only since we've gained an understanding of what happens, physiologically, with a pregnancy.

6/9/2012 3:52:50 AM

#1411202
Kulgur

@Mudak:
"Interestingly, I'm not aware of a single bible verse that specifically calls out terminating a pregnancy"

I don't know if this counts, but Numbers 5:11-21 teaches you HOW Christians should perform one.

6/9/2012 4:07:39 AM

#1411205
Nowonmai

It's the Catholic Church that is trying to redefine a medical status. And I'm surprised the Catholic Church/Vatican knows how to use running water and electricty.

6/9/2012 4:09:24 AM

#1411222
Reynardine

Preventing future conceptions is abortion? Then be very careful when you have to touch yourself down there, and above all, don't have wet dreams.

6/9/2012 4:38:11 AM

#1411246
wtfpudding

No, the church can say elephants are purple, still won't make them purple. Miriam Webster has been dead for write a long time and won't be speaking any time soon, seeing finally-the dictionary had more to say on the subject than you ever will.

6/9/2012 5:43:43 AM

#1411260


Eeeeeeeevery sperm is saaaaaaaacred...

6/9/2012 6:08:00 AM

#1411269
Horsefeathers

"No I am not confused."

Of course not. You're just not sure what you're talking about.

"The medical community's verbal acrobatics in an attempt to redefine preganancy so these drugs do not qualify as aborting is not recognized by the Church."

Nobody gives a fuck.

"What Webster says is irrelevant. What the Church says is relevant."

You, sir, are a dirty liar.

6/9/2012 6:15:33 AM

#1411291
Brendan Rizzo

This sophistry is why I left the Catholic Church. Somehow Catholic fundies have a knack for sounding far more smug even than Protestant fundies.

6/9/2012 6:46:07 AM

#1411313
Raised by Horses

Good old Argumentum ad LalalaICantHearYou.

6/9/2012 7:38:51 AM

#1411315
Dr.Shrinker

You mean like what The Church said to Galileo?

6/9/2012 7:41:14 AM

#1411323
fishtank

That's cleared that up then.

6/9/2012 7:46:32 AM

#1411337
Mr Creazil

The church also said beavers were fish.

6/9/2012 8:07:04 AM

#1411340
John

Coincidentally, an investigation by the NY Times discovered that the science supporting the "morning after" pill interfering with the implanting of a fertilized egg doesn't actually exist. Instead, it's now believed that it works by delaying ovulation. The idea that it worked by interfering with the implanting of a fertilized egg was proposed as part of the FDA approval process back when the drug was first invented, but was not, at that time supported by actual studies. It remains, however on labeling information and on various medical websites. The Times said "The F.D.A. now acknowledges that the emerging data suggest the morning-after pill, often called Plan B, does not inhibit implantation." It goes on to suggest that they "should remove that unsupported suggestion from the label."

6/9/2012 8:13:20 AM

#1411350
CanadianBroad

"No I am not confused."

So - you're just stupid, then?

(Plus: This post brought to you by The International Fundie Word Re-Definition Project. Sponsored by Conservapedia and A. Assfly. Re-Define a word for Jeebus today!)

(Edit: screwed up my brackets - sigh)

6/9/2012 8:32:36 AM

#1411351
CanadianBroad

@ Tindalos:

" ... god-botherers and christ-o-holics"

I am so stealing this! Love it.

6/9/2012 8:34:30 AM

#1411352
Oh My Dog!

Why should anyone care what the Church says?

6/9/2012 8:41:16 AM

#1411369
Mister Spak

Your churches' verbal acrobatics in an attempt to prove black is white are not recognised by the medical community. Black is not white, only white is white.

6/9/2012 9:16:10 AM

#1411374
Mayhem

Well, I don't recognize your church as an authority in my life, so there ya go.

6/9/2012 9:21:39 AM

#1411405
OhJohnNo

You are not confused. You are just an idiot.

6/9/2012 10:27:42 AM

#1411409
Ebon

You're right, you're not confused. You're just a moron.

6/9/2012 10:34:23 AM

#1411422


hahahahawhat

6/9/2012 11:03:19 AM

#1411443
checkmate

The medical community's verbal acrobatics ... is not recognized by the Church.

Well whoopy-doo!

And who gives a shit?

6/9/2012 12:07:13 PM

#1411455
Joey

Just like geocentricism versus heliocentricism. What Copernicus and Kepler said was irrelevant. What the church said was relevant.

6/9/2012 12:25:32 PM
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