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#1410999
Nicole
Savagesusie is a superhero! She can jump to the farthest-fetched conclusions in a single bound!
6/8/2012 6:05:06 AM
#1411000
Persephone 66
Wow all that from an advertisement and mannequins.
6/8/2012 6:06:44 AM
#1411001
KittyKaboom
Brave New World and 1984 demonstrate what the world will be like if religious nuts like yourself are allowed to control everything. There will be no freedon of thought, expression or creativity and no freedom to be the individual one was born to be. People will be told what to think, what to do, what to read, etc.
Don't pretend you wouldn't love to use your majority to stomp all over everyone else and force them to read the bible and live the way you dictate (no doubt under constant threat of execution - history has shown us what christians do to those who don't conform). You fuckers don't even make a secret of it. So don't go getting your knickers in a twist over the possibility of a society like we see in futuristic science fiction. You'd love that. To claim otherwise is a lie.
6/8/2012 6:07:21 AM
#1411002
KittyKaboom
Sorry, my laptop hiccuped and I wasn't sure if it posted, so I hit it again. My bad.
6/8/2012 6:08:20 AM
#1411003
KittyKaboom
Ditto. Sorry, guys.
6/8/2012 6:09:06 AM
#1411005
Darwin
If this is what they're reduced to complaining about, then we've already won.
6/8/2012 6:12:00 AM
#1411006
breakerslion
"Notice the androgyny in the manikins [at Macy's]-—Marxists want to make men and women interchangeable——so they can destroy the family unit—it is radical egalitarianism-—the State will raise the children."
Thanks a lot. I just pulled an Oblique muscle laughing so hard as I tried to imagine the world you live in. A world where Macy's, a public corporation with publicly traded stock, could be seen as Marxist, would make Toon Town look rational. Now I think I'll succumb to Tex Avery disease and start howling like a wolf and chasing women.
"Note all the push for little girls to be boys to be girls—or whatever."
Yeah. So much better in the nostalgic, good old Victorian days when little boys were dressed like this:
http://whowerethey.wordpress.com/category/photographer/ph-zorn/
... And then when they grew up, large armies of infantry shot at each other for days on end. Those were the days!
"They are taught truth is a lie. They are being fed moral relativism where there is no Right and Wrong except what the Church tells them."
Fixed. Example: When God slaughters Egyptian children, ... IT'S GOOD!
Go play now, SewageSusie!
Edit (for my friend John that will probably never see it):
NO MORE WIRE HANGERS!!!
6/8/2012 6:12:12 AM
#1411011
What the fuck is this shit?
Oh, susie, nevermind.
6/8/2012 6:32:27 AM
#1411016
Really, 1984 and Brave New World are a little mutually-exclusive for that to work: the first is about a totalitarian state taking control, the second is about yielding control in the name of hedonism. Incidentally, I find the latter idea quite anti-humanist and disdainful of the unwashed hedonistic masses, not to mention simplified and unrealistic, so the idea annoys me somewhat. Although it was probably more plausible in the days it was written.
Anyway... you're presenting the typical right-wing state takeover idea: NASTY LEFTIES want to DESTROY THE FAMILY and make the state take over. Likely the poster implicitly thinks there must be somebody taking a paternalistic role, so if it isn't REAL MEN taking charge, then it must be the EVIL COMMIE STATE who takes up the paternal aspect. Interestingly we see that CONFUSING THE CHILDREN is considered the WORST THING EVER, which is commonly used as an anti-egalitarian and anti-homosexuality argument. It's that paternal thing again, I reckon. Secularism confused with moral relativity, admittedly a logically-inconsistent idea even if it helps urge caution, again, thinking that ALMIGHTY GOD has to take a paternal role to bash RIGHT AND WRONG into our heads, and aren't we seeing a pattern here today?
6/8/2012 6:59:05 AM
#1411020
Horsefeathers
Susie, what in the holy hell are you going on about now?
6/8/2012 7:06:43 AM
#1411023
LDM
The only thing Marxist in Brave New World was Bernard's last name.
6/8/2012 7:22:42 AM
#1411024
Anon-e-moose
"Marxists want to make men and women interchangeable——so they can destroy the family unit—it is radical egalitarianism-—the State will raise the children."
Strange. I've never seen any mention of such in "The Communist Manifesto" and "Das Kapital".
And even if 'twere such thing as a 'Brave New World', Aldous Huxley's book of the same title posited the notion of a "1984"-esque warning; the diametric opposite posited by Gene Roddenberry, in that envisioned in his creation, "Star Trek": a world free of war, hunger, want, ignorance, even separate countries and governments - and freed from the yoke of Capitalism; humanity brought together under the banner of the United Federation of Planets.
...and speaking as a left-wing, Atheist, Sci-Fi nerd (and proud of it!), that's a bad thing... how? You tell me, savagesusie.
6/8/2012 7:24:41 AM
#1411029
DevilsChaplain
Mannequins. Spell it correctly you dingbat!
6/8/2012 7:54:27 AM
#1411030
Skyknight
@Xotan: It looks like the idea is similar to the problem in "Harrison Bergeron"--they think that the only way to achieve genuine egalitarianism is to impel everyone to be at the nadir. The only reason I can think of for this is that they think some people are utterly incapable of going above the nadir, even with an infinite amount of help (read: they're innately unable to feel anything EXCEPT frustration and dolor). Hence the emphasis on "liberty" over "equality" (e.g. Dennis Prager's recent "Still the Best Hope"), "freedom to fail", etc. There's an oblique, probably unwitting, fatalism at work here, the idea of a natural aristocracy. State/society interventions can only retard ascendancy, never catalyze it, meaning that everyone should accept their place in the inborn Great Chain of Being.
It's worth noting that in these imagined socialist dystopias, the archons always seem to be hyper-wealthy anyway. I'm not sure how much of it is projection, but there is the tacit idea that the natural inclination of every person (and note the naturalistic fallacy) is to ascend as far as they possibly can. In short, the assumption is that there will always be the extra-wealthy and the extra-povertous; that's how existence works. Good is found solely in maximizing how many can reach the zenith of glory, even if it's only threefold rather than ten thousandfold.
{sigh} The precept of "the poor will always be the poor, no matter how hard they try" is much too redolent of Calvinism's monstrosities of predestination...
(You'd think they'd have heard of Take a Third Option...)
6/8/2012 8:08:41 AM
#1411031
Jezebel's Evil Sister
"Notice the androgyny in the manikins [at Macy's] ..."
So, what's the alternative? Anatomically correct "manikins" and "womanikins"?
Somehow, I don't think that would make stupidsusie any happier, or any less insane.
6/8/2012 8:08:56 AM
#1411032
Pilotess
I thought the high prices at Macy's indicated Marxist tendencies!
6/8/2012 8:12:42 AM
#1411035
pete
I always get a kick out of a fundy whining about secular, fact based, education. My personal view is that teaching kids religious dogma is child abuse.
6/8/2012 8:24:34 AM
#1411036
QuasiRodent
Maybe she means Manakins?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eI_quJRRGxk&feature=related
6/8/2012 8:29:08 AM
#1411037
Osiris
Didn't BNW put a huge emphasis on gender division?
6/8/2012 8:31:14 AM
#1411038
JohnTheAtheist
This chick is just seriously crazy.
Androynous mannequins are simply cheaper to make,. and therefore reduce overhead you dumb, fucking cunt.
6/8/2012 8:31:17 AM
#1411039
shykid
If the "manikins" were fully anatomically correct, you could complain about how they were "vulgar" and "sexual" and find a way to connect it to Marxism and moral relativism.
You are crazy as fuck, Susie. What a trainwreck.
6/8/2012 8:31:54 AM
#1411043
Funshine
The 'Brave New World' is happiness focused. Why do you hate happiness?
Oh, right; Fundie.
6/8/2012 8:50:51 AM
#1411045
Skatepunk
She needs help.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. She needs help.
Her paranoia goes past what I consider funny on FSTDT.
6/8/2012 9:01:08 AM
#1411046
Berny
Marxists working for a capitalist corporation? Only to people with the thinking capacity of a slug, like Savagesusie, would this make any sense.
6/8/2012 9:04:39 AM
#1411051
Brendan Rizzo
Or it could just be so that the stores can dress the mannequins more easily. But that explanation would require Susie not to think that everyone is Satan in hell.
@ Xotan:
Everything you say is true, but how come no one compares you to Headache when you point these things out about America, but when I, who actually live there, say it, everyone tells me to stop, or that I'm viewing Europe too positively and America too negatively, or something of that sort?
6/8/2012 9:34:38 AM
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