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[Part of a conversation with an atheist]

Let's pretend for a moment that you "like" women Gerald, and took your girlfriend/wife to a Christian church. Both of you get up from the pew to go do something elsewhere in the church, and she leaves her purse behind. Would you be worried that the purse or it's contents would be stolen?

Back to reality now. Let's say you take your boyfriend to a gay bar, and he leaves his purse on the table while you two go restroom hopping. Would you be worried about theft in that venue Gerald?

Gathering together in a House of God helps make people decent.

[snip]
Oh but they do exist. Communist countries and their brutal totalitarian regimes are excellent examples of atheism at work Gerald.

[snip]
I could write volumes on this topic Gerald. Where shall I start: abortion, homosexuality, pornography, recreational drug use, prostitution? Your religion has it all.


aCultureWarrior, Theology Online 79 Comments [6/5/2012 3:05:10 AM]
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#1410077
Mrs. Antichrist

The repeated use of Gerald's name is giving me Hannibal Lecter vibes.

6/5/2012 7:09:32 AM

#1410080
Nicole

Hey guys, look what just appeared on my Tumblr dash this morning:


6/5/2012 7:15:21 AM

#1410081
Filin De Blanc

"The repeated use of Gerald's name is giving me Hannibal Lecter vibes."

An atheist tried to debate me once. I ate his liver with a communion wafer and the blood of Christ.

6/5/2012 7:17:12 AM

#1410082
breakerslion

Okay ThroatCultureWarrior, when was the last time you broke bread with a prison population that "found Jesus?" Or, if you prefer, leave your stuff unattended at a Salvation Army gathering. "Oh, but that's temptation!" you say? Not, "True Christians?" What's your excuse?

I'd rather have my pocket picked than have to waste another brain cell rebutting these same dead-horse talking points of yours. Polly want a cracker?


6/5/2012 7:20:33 AM

#1410084
Lotus-thing

Why yes. Yes, I would worry about theft of unattended belongings in any public space, church or club or classroom or anywhere else.

However I have yet to meet a gay man who was dumb enough to leave his belongings unguarded. Or a straight woman for that matter. You stash your stuff with a friend or you take it with you.

6/5/2012 7:24:18 AM

#1410089
dionysus

Gathering together in a House of God helps make people decent.

*reads headlines about preachers that want to put gay people in concentration camps or have the government kill them*

Oh yes, going to church sure makes you a terrific person.

6/5/2012 7:36:55 AM

#1410095
Xotan

A reading of the First Amendment of the US constitution makes it clear that the US is an -a-theist country. I take it that you understand that the 'a', in Greek, means 'not'. And Theos means 'God'. So there you have it. A not god US. not that you'd ever think it. Because 'atheist' does not mean totalitarian or brutal. So why do you lie?

6/5/2012 7:51:01 AM

#1410102
Cy

I did leave my purse and a scarf on a table in a gay bar once, when a friend and I moved to a quieter part of the bar because a noisy group had come in.

One of the staff members brought them back to me about 15 minutes later. Nothing missing.

6/5/2012 8:02:39 AM

#1410105
Philbert McAdamia

If my boy toy and I are at the Blue Oyster and go acting like good, Christian republicans in the restroom stalls, and he left his purse behind, no I wouldn't be worried at all, it isn't my purse. He might be more concerned about finding it stuffed full of Jack Chick and Tony Alamo tracts when he gets back to it, though.

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@ Horsefeathers
Second, I think you'll find that Christians would make up a larger percentage of all of those groups, individually and combined, than would atheists.
and John
So why are the prisons full of Christians?

Percentage of atheists in U.S. = 2%

Percentage of atheists in U.S. prisons = .21%
(That's point 21%

6/5/2012 8:11:30 AM

#1410106
Noneofyourbusiness

"Would you be worried that the purse or it's contents would be stolen? "

Yes, why do you ask?

6/5/2012 8:13:30 AM

#1410112
The Duelist

aCultureWarrior is just another stupid jizz-yodeling cum-dumpster who references Communist regimes as examples of atheism, conveniently ignoring the massive distinction between the two; atheism is a state of disbelief in gods, no more, no less. Communism, however, is a complex ideology that makes definite claims in economics, politics, religion, and various matters of state. The two are very different. In addition, he also neglects to mention that atheistic countries like Norway, Sweden, and Japan are better-educated than America, and have much lower rates of drug abuse, abortion, teen pregnancy, and crime in general. But of course, expecting logic, honesty, and intelligence from a fundy is like expecting decency from a totalitarian dictator. It's not going to happen.

6/5/2012 8:18:22 AM

#1410120
freako104

I wonder what he'd say about the rapes and killling done by Christians.

6/5/2012 8:37:02 AM

#1410130
Woody

I suspect that the chances of a purse being stolen is about the same in a church as in my workplace. Any social grouping where the pressure to conform is high plays off against the humiliation of being "found out" if caught means that people behave in a manner that will appear highly moral. In a church/workplace, people know each other well and have reputations to maintain.

On the other side, you have a gay club, straight club, shopping mall etc. where strangers, including Christians, meet briefly and the consequences of being caught theiving are low; people will be less inclined to behave in such a high moral manner.

It has nothing to do with Christians being more moral or better than gays (or any other population grouping). Take a look at the religious make up of the prison population to see proof of that.

6/5/2012 8:50:54 AM

#1410131


yeah, gotta shag in church!!!

6/5/2012 8:58:34 AM

#1410133


abortion, homosexuality, pornography, recreational drug use, prostitution? Your religion has it all.

it was nice, but now i need to restroom hop with my boyfriend...apparently i'm not good at the whole being gay thing?

6/5/2012 9:01:36 AM

#1410135
Berny

Because no true Christian has ever committed murder, had an abortion, used recreational drugs, stolen money, used pornography or availed themselves of the services of a prostitute (gay or straight).
On the other hand, I, as an atheist, have never murdered or raped anyone, had an abortion, availed myself of the services of a prostitute, used illegal drugs, or stolen anything since I've been old enough to know it's wrong. Also, I'm a capitalis. Any questions?
You are full of shit, aCultureWarrior.

6/5/2012 9:02:32 AM

#1410136
JohnTheAtheist

Christopher Hitchens, pbuh, once wrote about the times he was most frightened in his life. They were times right after prayer meetings let out in Belfast, Beirut and Bahrain...and those were just the "B's"

6/5/2012 9:03:30 AM

#1410155
BlackMageJ

"Wow! I prayed that God would make me rich, and in return He has given me this bounty, since the previous owner of this walle- I mean, purse- was a gay atheist and therefore clearly has no right to have any possessions. Clearly God wishes for me to relieve this heathen of his ill-gotten gains so that I might use it to do His work by getting drunk and beating my wife for not being meek enough. Praise the Lord, it's a miracle!"

6/5/2012 10:06:06 AM

#1410157
John_in_Oz

"Gathering together in a House of God helps make people decent.

Your post disproves that claim.

6/5/2012 10:22:04 AM

#1410159
Musicalbookworm

My little Episcopal church has had problems with theft. I'm amazed at how careless some people will be. I'm a librarian and I see people leave expensive electronics laying around unattended all the flipping time. I've seen people leave cell phones and ipods on the floor connected to a wall outlet for hours at a time unattended. Really people no public place is a "safe" place to leave your valuables unattended.

6/5/2012 10:26:02 AM

#1410160
Often Partisan

atheism is not freaking communism okay??

try Liberation Theology for one.
and bourgeois atheists for two.

6/5/2012 10:27:56 AM

#1410165
Ludd

"Both of you get up from the pew to go do something elsewhere in the church, and she leaves her purse behind. Would you be worried that the purse or it's contents would be stolen?"

Yes, Christians are thieves too. Of course the biggest thieves are the ones standing in front of the congregation.

6/5/2012 10:48:16 AM

#1410170
nazani14

http://www.religiousdouchebags.com/

6/5/2012 11:18:12 AM

#1410171
Wehpudicabok

I would worry about my stuff being stolen no matter where I was, because people are assholes. But it's worth noting that I've never heard of children being systematically molested in gay bars.

Atheism is the rejection of the idea of God. Nothing more. Nothing else you bring up has anything to do with atheism whatsoever.

6/5/2012 11:19:54 AM

#1410178
UHM

Fundamentalist Christianity - because gay bars and churches are the same thing.

Also do not know a lot of gay men that actually own a purse. Some, yeah, but those also own bras.

6/5/2012 11:43:47 AM
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