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After many people coming to me claiming that one can believe in evolution and that God just created the first life I've decided to write this little bit here to clear up the ignorant ramblings.

1.?The Bible states ten times that life reproduces only after its own kind. As we observe the biological world all around us this fact is 100% true Dogs stay dogs, and people stay people. Yet evolution preaches that all life is a blurred continuum.

2.?The God of the Bible demands unselfish sacrifice for the good of others. “...whosoever will be chief among you, let him be your servant.” (Matthew 20:27) Would this same God use a method of dead ends, extinctions, and survival of the fittest to make us? I think not.

3.?Belief in evolution justified the excesses of the industrial revolution, the Nazi elimination of the Jews, and the rise of Marxism and Communism. It also serves as the primary justification for disbelief in God. Although believers in evolution attempt to distance themselves from taking their theory into a social realm, these historical atrocities are the undeniable result of taking evolution to its logical conclusion. If we are a product of biological forces; why not extend these forces into our dealing with other humans? Animal groups do not lament wiping each other out in order to survive. Why shouldn’t we be the same; if we are just part of an evolutionary process which formed us? Creation is the event which ultimately gives life value because it links every humans value to our Creator who loved us enough to die for us. Evolution is the opposite.
Abundant scientific evidence exists that microbe to man evolution has never taken place. The fossil record shows no credible links between major groups of plants and animals. The chemical structure of DNA contains useful information which could not have developed by natural processes. Also, there is abundant evidence for a worldwide flood which undermines the possibility that evolution could have happened.

johnmuise, Deviantart 44 Comments [6/4/2012 3:39:46 AM]
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#1409559

Brendan Rizzo

Nope. Darwin was anti-racist and Hitler was a young-Earth creationist. You lose.

6/4/2012 4:08:12 AM

#1409563

Reynardine

One of the many things you don't know jack about is cockroaches. They have big ones and little ones and wingless ones and ones that fly like bombers, and besides the usual black, brown, and tan ones, there are pretty nile green ones, but they're highly fertile and having a few maladaptive mutations isn't about to make them go extinct. They've been around since the Carboniferous with the same basic design and most of them have bigger brains than you.

P. S. I think the cockroach guy was the one after you. I had a bad night. Cockroaches are still more intelligent than you.

6/4/2012 4:14:28 AM

#1409578

Leighton Buzzard

I hear the Industrial Revolution mostly happened before 1859. Just sayin'.

6/4/2012 4:29:08 AM

#1409590

Mister Spak

"Yet evolution preaches"

You're confusing your mythology with science.

"Belief in evolution justified the excesses of the industrial revolution, the Nazi elimination of the Jews, and the rise of Marxism and Communism"

The excesses of the industrial revolution were extolled as virtues by conservatives(and still are - Romney for president!) Evolution was illegal in nazi Germany and the Soviet Union. Interesting company you keep.

6/4/2012 4:38:52 AM

#1409622

gravematter

Not the most compelling argument. To paraphrase:

1. Bible quote.
2. Bible quote.
3. I don't understand evolution.

Social Darwinism is not the same thing as evolution. "Survival of the fittest" is not about packs of different species going around deliberately wiping each other out.

"The fossil record shows no credible links between major groups of plants and animals."

This is a blatant lie, possibly told to you by a mad preacher. You'd find the evidence very easily using Google.

"The chemical structure of DNA contains useful information which could not have developed by natural processes."

Why not? I think you're getting blindsided by the way that DNA is often talked about as "a code". This is more a way of trying to explain it to idiots like yourself, rather than a literal description, which carries connotations of something man-made.

"Also, there is abundant evidence for a worldwide flood which undermines the possibility that evolution could have happened."
Stop it, you're killing me.

6/4/2012 5:29:07 AM

#1409623

Dr.Shrinker

"I think not."

The only line from your screed that I agree with.

6/4/2012 5:32:26 AM

#1409625

"The Bible states...."

Stop right there. You've just lost all credibility where scientific matters are concerned.

6/4/2012 5:33:06 AM

#1409628

I think you need to add a point number four, and explain to us why you think a collection of writings argued over and then selected in the fourth century by a group of Catholic bishops is valid today as a scientific text.

6/4/2012 5:38:43 AM

#1409633

Philbert McAdamia

"I think not. "

You said a mouthfull there, kid.

6/4/2012 5:45:58 AM

#1409664

dionysus

Belief in evolution justified the excesses of the industrial revolution

If by "belief in evolution" you mean the completely unscientific and unrelated to the Theory of Evolution social Darwinist movement. Humans are social creatures and we're supposed to help each other not try to compete all other humans out of existence.

the Nazi elimination of the Jews

Killing member of your own species is COUNTER to the principles of evolution. Especially if you're killing them for as stupid a reason as having a different religion.

and the rise of Marxism and Communism.

What? Social Darwinism AND communism? You couldn't get any more diametrically opposed if you tried. One is an extreme of capitalism and the other is an extreme of collectivism. I find it really amusing when people like you so clearly don't understand what the things you rail against actually are and merely lump all "bad things" together into one group and blame a theory you don't understand for them all.

6/4/2012 6:45:33 AM

#1409681

Doubting Thomas

First of all, quoting the bible just destroys any credibility you might have in the first place. Secondly, throwing in a Godwin argument totally pounds into dust the fragments of your previously destroyed credibility.

6/4/2012 7:26:51 AM

#1409694

Ebon

"Belief in evolution justified the excesses of the industrial revolution, the Nazi elimination of the Jews, and the rise of Marxism and Communism"

No it didn't, stop lying.

6/4/2012 7:42:19 AM

#1409697

"The God of the Bible demands unselfish sacrifice for the good of others."

Yes. Usually the sacrifice OF others. Like the unselfish sacrifice of the Canaanites by the Israelites. It's more in line with natural selection that you realize.

6/4/2012 7:46:31 AM

#1409734

Fawful has seen God has a vagina on top of his penis

"Belief in evolution justified [...] the rise of Marxism and Communism."

Which rise of communism? The only communism I have seen is the Paris commune, the rest are posers.

6/4/2012 8:38:34 AM

#1409737

Flah

Belief in God justified the Inquisition, the Crusades, and the descent of Europe into the Dark Ages. Perhaps John would be willing to reconcile this with his sinless religion?

Everything after that part is just an argument based on ignorance. Nothing to see here.

6/4/2012 8:46:01 AM

#1409744

JGC

You're speaking as if the bible were known to possess some inherent authority, or that the extraordinary supernatural calims it includes were known to be accurate depictions of actual historical persons and events.

Why?

6/4/2012 9:00:30 AM

#1409761

"The Bible states ten times that life reproduces only after its own kind. As we observe the biological world all around us this fact is 100% true Dogs stay dogs, and people stay people. Yet evolution preaches that all life is a blurred continuum."

The Bible also states that if you get sheep to mate while looking at a striped stick, they'll birth lambs with striped wool...

"The God of the Bible demands unselfish sacrifice for the good of others. “...whosoever will be chief among you, let him be your servant.” (Matthew 20:27) Would this same God use a method of dead ends, extinctions, and survival of the fittest to make us? I think not."

The God of the Bible was a horse thief... I'm not sure you want to take his word as gospel.

"Belief in evolution justified the excesses of the industrial revolution, the Nazi elimination of the Jews, and the rise of Marxism and Communism."

Industrial revolution came WELL before the ToE was proposed, Nazi Germany was almost completely Christian and all mention of Darwin or his theory was banned, Marxism was almost word for word what Jesus preached about possessions... and ToE was banned in all communist countries.

Well done... you're an idiot.

6/4/2012 9:26:40 AM

#1409762

Berny

Wrong on all counts. Evolution had absolutely fuck-all to do with the rise of Nazism, Marxism, or Communism. Those are political movements you fucktard.
As for the Bible, there is zero evidence proving any of it happened. It has zero credibility.

6/4/2012 9:27:30 AM

#1409777

JB Mason

Okay so a process of constant improvement within a species in codependency with society and the eco-system (requiring altruism, cooperation, and stewardship) is evil, but a psychopathic sky-daddy who requires human sacrifice to change his own tyrannical rules is good. Got it.

6/4/2012 10:10:12 AM

#1409806

Indicible

Animal groups do not lament wiping each other out in order to survive. Why shouldn’t we be the same; if we are just part of an evolutionary process which formed us?

Do you lament on the fate of the chicken you ate last Sunday?
I don't think so.

Abundant scientific evidence exists that microbe to man evolution has never taken place.

Citation needed (and not by M. Behe)

6/4/2012 11:31:13 AM

#1409823

Jezeus

From the great teacher and Master... Yoda..."This is why you fail..."

6/4/2012 12:14:06 PM

#1409830

DarkfireTaimatsu

Excesses of the industrial revolution? What're you, some anti-Spark extremist?

6/4/2012 12:25:11 PM

#1409834

J. James

You think that life gives a shit what the bible says?

Nope. They just keep on evolving.

6/4/2012 12:36:04 PM

#1409847

breakerslion

How did one rationalize atrocities and genocides before there was TOE and Nazi Germany?

Oh yeah. GOD'S WILL!

"Also, there is abundant evidence for a worldwide flood which undermines the possibility that evolution could have happened."

Present it... and it better not smell like ass.

6/4/2012 1:10:23 PM

#1409871

Old Viking

1. The Bible states ...

The Bible has been thoroughly refuted by the Betty Crocker Cook Book.

6/4/2012 2:23:18 PM

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