As divorced from reality as this rant is, it is still far less so than the people of the American South.
6/4/2012 4:33:24 AM
William of Orange was invited in BY Parliament, you ignorant shithead. And, yeah, you keep fighting against Socialism. Whining on obscure websites is bound to destroy it. /sarcasm
6/4/2012 4:33:43 AM
Though I admire you Brits for your wit, grit, humo(u)r, and love of animals, gardens, and harmless pageantry, I am glad that this jerk, like your cooking, is across the Pond.
6/4/2012 4:44:26 AM
Raised by Horses"Passive-aggressive people who defend racism but don't want to be labeled that way attack dissenters as 'politically correct.'"
-Rationalwiki entry on Political Correctness
Predictable as a metronome.
6/4/2012 4:53:49 AM
More like HelpI'mBeingOppressedPatriot.
6/4/2012 5:21:49 AM
That's a bit harsh. British cuisine used to be terrible, true, mainly due to the fact that our climate doesn't allow for the growing of many ingredients. We do however, have cheese, bread and chocolate that actually taste of something, as well as fantastic Indian food, and non-bastardised Chinese food too. We now have many internationally renowned chefs, because we now have access to more than just beef and potatoes. Certainly, in Europe, American cuisine is just as villified as British, and probably more so. If you were to criticise our wine, on the other hand...
6/4/2012 6:31:26 AM
You do not know what the hell socialism is.
@ gravematter: Yeah, our wine is awful but we do brew some very good beers.
6/4/2012 7:57:30 AM
Gravematter, I know you have wonderful cuisine from the Indian Subcontinent, as well as the other delicacies you mentioned, but the point is, if Persecuted had his way, you'd all be patriotically eating softboiled Brussels sprouts in hot library paste. (I don't doubt you would nonetheless have wonderful dairy products and ale, though).
6/4/2012 8:09:13 AM
Hey! Our food is better than it has ever been, and our wine can be pretty good, too. Seriously, we have vineyards that knock the shit out of the stale, tasteless, traditionalist French crap. The only thing wrong with English wine is, it's fucking expensive. (Same thing that's wrong with our good food, now I come to think of it).
6/4/2012 8:09:26 AM
You fail so much in the history if the country you claim to love so much.
6/4/2012 10:50:17 AM
My understanding is that in advance of WWII, some foresighted people planted some American and Euro-American hybrids more or less along the Channel coast (as these were hardier) and that both breeders and vintners have been improving them since. The problem is that any grape needs consistent sun, though the blonder varieties of grapes, like the blonder varieties of anything, can do with less of it. Golden Muscat came from a cross of European-type Muscats with a blond American grape called Diamond, and when well-ripened, it's delicious for table or wine. I suspect you Brits would find it a good bet for home use (it likes a slightly acidic soil).
6/4/2012 11:26:31 AM
So, the whole expansion of the British Empire thing and their industrial revolution was a Dutch thing? Hmmmmm.
6/4/2012 12:14:00 PM
By the way, Gravematter, since a great deal of the "American food" widely available abroad is McDonald's and KFC, it's justly vilified. But, as Mr. Buzzard specified, our better cuisine is seldom cheap. Your best bet for enjoyable American food is in a private house where people have the time and resources to do their own cooking.
6/4/2012 2:36:53 PM
Being politically correct and not using racial slurs or stereotypes is not the same as forcing you to renounce your own race and forcing you to accept other cultures as your own.
Never will understand these idiots who think that tolerance=oppression.
6/4/2012 3:04:25 PM
You use "politically correct" as a pejorative for "respect" because you don't want to be called out on being a rude, whiny little baby.
By now we all noticed, so you may want to find a new expression.
6/4/2012 4:22:45 PM
True. And also the same must be said of British cuisine. Just like with any country, there's plenty of British restaurants that aren't very good, and the best ones are often expensive. But go to a British dinner party and you'd likely be very happy. I just discovered that the UK actually has almost as many Michelin starred restaurants as the USA, which I actually wasn't expecting. It is of course, entirely true that if it weren't for influences and ingredients from foreign countries, our food would have remained very disturbing variations on boiled meat and root vegetables. I wonder if "PersecutedPatriot" sticks to a traditional British diet? If so, it's probably indigestion that's made him so angry.
6/5/2012 4:25:09 AM
As much as it could have benefitted the Netherlands and England to keep close ties, William III's reign was rather short and so was Queen Anne's. Certainly not long enough to drastically change English culture. You might be confusing the Oranje-Nassau house with that of Windsor. You know, those Hannoverians who were offered the throne and are still ruling Britain, and HAVE had a tremendous influence on British history and culture (and whose scion Elisabeth II is currently celebrated for her long reign). You want to talk socialism and political correctness? Take it up with the Windsors, who have actually seen the birth of such societal changes. Leave us Dutch people out of your White Anglo-Saxon Protestant circle jerk, you racist moron.
PS: There's nothing wrong with English food if you can find the time and means to cook something great. I do admit I'm not looking forward to ever eating Scottish dishes.
6/5/2012 9:51:07 AM
No, it isn't William of Orange's fault, it's all been going downhill since the Angles and Saxons came to England.
6/5/2012 2:30:46 PM
Hope you like tories fucking over you.
6/5/2012 6:50:20 PM
Sometimes, I hate getting out of bed because I might suddenly come down with socialism. That might force me to say nice things to that idiot neighbor of mine.
6/5/2012 7:28:53 PM
Actually, gravematter, when I used to live in Miami, I frequented a place called Churchill's Pub, where the fare was quite tasty, but I don't imagine this guy was the cook.
6/6/2012 6:16:55 AM
I'd add that there isn't *an* American cuisine, as you have stated about your country. You'll get, however, your best sea food in New England, Key West, New Orleans, or San Francisco, your best beef in Chicago or Omaha, your most impressive breakfasts in Missouri, and for a peach to die for, try a Georgia roadside fruit stand.
6/6/2012 6:21:56 AM
Anonymous, are you from the Cornish peninsula?
6/6/2012 6:36:18 AM
@Reynardine: As backwards and fucked-up as The South is, it can make one hell of a breakfast too. Or perhaps it's more of an acquired taste. Whatever the case, just be sure to bring lots of cholesterol and blood-pressure meds and make plans to run in a 10k afterwards.
I like how this comment thread derailed into food.
6/7/2012 1:55:58 AM
Shykid, food is good. It's a benign and comforting topic of conversation in times when one is daunted by mean stupidity and stupid meanness. You're completely right about Southern breakfasts: their pleasures and their hazards. The latter include cheese grits and cream gravy. The fare varies from place to place, but the South has conferred on us all the blessing of real drop biscuits, hot from the oven and dripping with butter and honey (for you Brits, what you call a biscuit would be dismissed as a cracker here, especially by Crackers, who have high expectations of their biscuits).
6/7/2012 5:47:38 AM