Because if you believe in stupid, childish fairytales instead of scientific theories which have ALL the proof on their side, then you are obviously not a very credible scientist.
5/18/2012 3:30:43 AM
Even if you are the best neurosurgeon in the world and you regularly make cripples run again, that still doesn't qualify you to think your opinion on a field of science that is only distantly related to your own is more valid than the that of people who have studied it their whole life. Unless you are right and have the facts to back you up, then people will listen.
5/18/2012 3:44:21 AM
The nerve of those scientists! Insisting on actual science!
5/18/2012 3:45:35 AM
Sorry to break this to you: no matter what your credentials are, you aren't immune to being wrong.
I know conservatives tend to consider that authority should be absolute - just look at how they overreact when their children complain about them - they want deference, they want fear, and they want gratefulness at the same time.
In the real world, Dave, when you talk stupidly, it affects how people see you. Whatever petty power you may have gained in your life - because that's what it boils down to - will not shield you from that.
5/18/2012 3:47:47 AM
What! If you're on a science faculty, you're expected to be scientific! What an injustice!
5/18/2012 3:59:49 AM
If you were a teacher or a professor and a student kept telling you that what you were teaching is wrong and they had nothing to support their position, what would you do?
"No teacher, you are wrong. Bats are birds and Pi is only 3 because God said so."
5/18/2012 4:02:10 AM
Filin De Blanc
If you don't want people to criticize you, stop saying wrong things.
5/18/2012 4:12:15 AM
Disagreement doesn't equal bullying.
Doctor Carson's position has not been misrepresented. He has not been silenced, nor has there been any attempt to silence him.
Yet again, you are not being persecuted.
5/18/2012 4:20:39 AM
Yes, OK, he's a scientist. But
a. Evolution is not his subject
b. He's a Seventh Day Adventist.
You see, the dreaded "Science" actually covers a vast range of fields and within those fields there are differing views held by many different scientists. Just because someone's a scientist doesn't make him right. Equally, just because one scientist holds a certain view, it doesn't somehow undermine all the other scientists who don't hold that view. Science is not a religion, and scientists are not priests. In any case, it would really help Carson's credibility on this subject if he weren't taking issue with a scientific theory that just happens to contradict his faith.
5/18/2012 4:28:56 AM
"But in the hands of academic bullies, if you once shared your critical thoughts on evolutionary science and its moral implications — well, everything else about you suddenly dwindles to very little."
Us flat earthers know exactly how you feel.
"Imagine the results if he were someone else: a young scientist seeking a strong start to his career, a not so young but still untenured scientist with his livelihood to protect, even a tenured academic worried about his reputation and the future careers of his own grad students."
I know what you mean. How often does a flat earth scientist survive the academic attacks from politically correct roundists?
This is how roundists maintain the fiction that the scientific community has reached a freely determined “consensus” in favor of roundian earth and against biblical truth. The consensus is maintained by intimidation, by bullying.
5/18/2012 4:48:37 AM
I'm surprised they didn't throw accusations of racism in here, since Carson is black.
5/18/2012 4:51:07 AM
You do not even know what bullying is. This is "being made fun of" and "not being taken seriously" because he follows a theory that speaks against both facts and common sense.
Bullying would be insulting and physically hurting him, of which I do not think that it is done there.
5/18/2012 5:53:37 AM
I think it's because when idiots open their mouths questioning evolution, the rest of the medical & scientific world realize that they didn't learn a damn thing in school and don't want to entrust them with important projects. It would be like working at NASA and telling your superiors that you think the earth is flat & doesn't move, and the entire universe moves around it. You'd be lucky if they didn't reclassify your job to be cleaning the toilets all day long.
5/18/2012 6:23:02 AM
It seems here that the main problem is that Carson's specialty is neurosurgery, not evolution. I'm sure Carson would react with the same outrage evolutionary scientists are showing if some evolution scientist started challenging the accepted position on pediatric neurosurgery.
5/18/2012 6:51:56 AM
This is how Darwinists maintain the fiction that the scientific community has reached a freely determined “consensus” in favor of Darwinian evolution and against intelligent design.
You're not being bullied. You're being corrected.
5/18/2012 7:06:03 AM
Raised by Horses
It's like saying that it's bullying to laugh someone out of a chemistry lab for insisting on adhering to the time-tested practice of alchemy.
It's sad that a 150 years after Origin of Species, the rebuttals still amount to the following:
1. "I ain't no smelly ape! No sirree!"
2. "If no sky-tyrant watching our every move, why be good? There can't be morality without religion blah blah blah.."
5/18/2012 7:11:49 AM
If you don't like ridicule, don't be ridiculous.
5/18/2012 7:18:37 AM
An archaeologist or a sociology teacher who professed the opinion that the Holocaust never happened would probably be laughed at and ridiculed too. If you don't want to be ridiculed, don't profess to believe in long-outdated pseudoscience and fairy tales.
What moral implications of evolutionary science, by the way? "Species adapt to a changing environment through random mutations and natural selection." How can you find any moral implications with the description of a natural process? Maybe you have some moral implication with photosynthetic science too?
5/18/2012 7:26:17 AM
Academia can be a real bitch to people with the less popular opinion. It's been a common theme that I've noticed at least, scientists are still humans after all. But Evolution has a huge pile of evidence on top of it. To question it means you're either crazy or you have some *very* compelling evidence.
Creation science has none of the latter and a *lot* of the former.
5/18/2012 7:44:16 AM
You're right, we should stop the process of scientific rigour and peer review, and let people just make shit up without any demonstrable evidence of any kind, because we wouldn't want to hurt anyone's feelings.
Fuck your feelings, if your idea has no merit, it has no merit, and people who know it doesn't should be entitled to say as much.
5/18/2012 8:55:05 AM
First off, there are no moral implications to evolution. It is merely a theory of how life developed on this planet.
Second, intelligent design has no scientific basis and thus does not belong in a scientific discourse about our origins. It is a farce.
Third, there is no argument about the validity of evolution amongst biologists. There is some discourse on the mechanisms behind evolution, but none about it having taken place. That is rock solid among scientists.
5/18/2012 9:44:59 AM
"Moral implications?" Even if evolutionary theory had moral implications, which it doesn't, that wouldn't be a point against it being true. There's a thing called empirical reality. You seem to be saying that something can't be true if you don't think it should be.
5/18/2012 9:49:05 AM
Being a nice guy, a rich, generous guy, a great neurosurgeon and having an inspiring story, have nothing to do with one's take on the ToE being correct. Facts are facts whether one is inspiring or not, rich or not, generous or not, etc.
5/18/2012 9:53:54 AM
Some of my best friends are brilliant, innovative, pediatric neurosurgeons.
5/18/2012 12:34:30 PM
You wouldn't see a neurosurgeon for gynecological care or kidney disease or dentistry, and those are all health-related sciences. Why would you think him qualified to render an opinion in the field of evolutionary science?
5/18/2012 12:36:01 PM