1) citation needed
2) statistics do lie and you do too
3) correlation does not equal causation
5/18/2012 3:39:03 AM
Or you can chalk that up to overpopulation, which is the most likely problem. However, you seem to be the kind of person who would deny it. Not to mention the stats seem a bit exaggerated.
5/18/2012 3:42:47 AM
I stubbed my toe while drunk last week. Is that also because of teaching evolution?
5/18/2012 3:45:29 AM
I know two of those statistics to be false; that supports the sensible assumption that you made them up.
And that weather thing, what should I teach to get hot but cloudy summer days like I prefer them? Macramé?
5/18/2012 3:56:49 AM
1) Citation very much fucking needed because this looks just like an email forward that has been doing the rounds.
2) Statistics can lie on occasion and it's certainly possible to draw the wrong inferences from them.
3) Correlation does not imply causation and it is entirely possible for it all to be conincidence.
4) If you look at much of Europe, you will find that many of your stats are better there but very few people in Europe deny evolution (discounting legitimate scientists who have minor quibbles about the exact details).
5) From the above, we can deduce that it is not the teaching of evolution but some other factor which is responsible for those stats (assuming they aren't just made up which they appear to be).
5/18/2012 4:00:23 AM
Before 1963, we were blissfully free of fundies screwing with our science and history courses, and in fact most of the gruesome stuff you mentioned, when provable, happened after they took over our politics as well.
5/18/2012 4:05:54 AM
Actually you could replace "1963 was when evolution received federal funding as it applies to education" with "1963 was the year that The Beatles released their first album", and have just as much of a valid point ie. none.
5/18/2012 4:08:23 AM
Correlation and causation, anyone?
5/18/2012 4:13:30 AM
Statistics don't lie, but liars can pull statistics out of their ass.
Just ask all those pirates.
5/18/2012 4:53:22 AM
If you look back to the year 1953, a foreigner looking in would assume the US could do no wrong. We had just led the charge in defeating the Nazis and Imperial Japan, and had done exactly what the UN wanted in regards to Korea. It should be noted that at this point, there was no fundie control of US politics. Fast forward to today, when fundies have destroyed all programs that made this country the equal of the West, and lost all its money being bogged down in two endless wars, causing a recession which affects the entire world. If you will notice, all of these things happened after the election of Reagan.
What's that you were saying about correlation and causation?
5/18/2012 5:10:32 AM
Relevant, complete, accurate statistics in the proper context don't lie.
5/18/2012 5:13:18 AM
Rob aka Mediancat
In 1963, also, JFK was assassinated, CS Lewis died, and probably most suspicious, Kenner introduced the Easy-Bake Oven. And even assuming your statistics are accurate, that has as much relevance as the introduction of evolution to textbooks.
Post hoc ergo propter hoc. Look it up.
5/18/2012 5:33:41 AM
These things are not a result of evolution.
Many of them are a direct result of conservative/republican policies. No Child Left Behind, Abstinence only education, underfunding of our education system, etc.
5/18/2012 5:35:43 AM
There are three types of lies. Lies, damned lies, and statistics.
5/18/2012 5:36:53 AM
He did not just compare the number of words on a given subject to the rising or falling of different objects (in the loosest sense) of natural phenomena?
Also, correlation =/= causation.
5/18/2012 5:57:33 AM
That quote is commonly attributed to Mark Twain but was really coined by 19th-century British Prime Minister Benjamin Disreali.
It's still apt though! :-)
5/18/2012 6:01:21 AM
And 83% of statistics are made up on the spot.
And 93% of statisticians hate their jobs.
5/18/2012 6:05:58 AM
No, no, no, no, no, no. Evolution isn't the cause of all these problems. They're caused by taking prayer out of school. Haven't you been reading fundie websites?
5/18/2012 6:40:38 AM
Raised by Horses
And the sale of George Foreman grills is up 200,000% since their introduction compared to the period of time during which they did not exist.
It's fun to fiddle with numbers, especially when you don't have to provide sources.
5/18/2012 6:55:54 AM
So....33 years later America is seeing the effects of mentioning evolution in text books? Um....
5/18/2012 7:13:16 AM
Post hoc ergo propter hoc
What other factors have changed since 1963? Has the population increased? has population densities increased? Has the reporting of statistics become more accurate (e.g. we no long hide unwed mothers away during their pregnancies, so we are more aware of the numbers today than we used to be)?
Your connections are "Post hoc ergo propter hoc"
5/18/2012 7:19:19 AM
Fundies Make Me Sick
How you could come to the conclusion that the teaching of evolution is somehow directly responsible for those statistics is beyond me. You clearly are not educated. Your argument is not only invalid, it's also irrelevant because evolution has nothing to do with the increase in the phenomena that you listed.
5/18/2012 7:50:00 AM
Since Jesus was born:
Nuclear explosions on earth are up 1,000,000,000%
Diarrhea from Taco Bell is up 5,000,000%
Shootings are up 9,000%
statistics don't lie (but liars use statistics).
5/18/2012 7:54:28 AM
Maybe if religious conservatives weren't hellbent on destroying public education and Sex Ed, we'd be in a better situation right now.
The blame doesn't lie with evolution, it lies soley on YOU and your retarded ilk.
5/18/2012 8:02:57 AM
Butt-sniffing by Doberman Pinschers - Up 752%
Paintball-related Crotch Injuries - Up 486%
Accidental Ingestion of Barbie Doll Heads - Up 250%
Dolphin Suicides - Up 327%
Bonobo Make-Up Sex - Up 921%. Half of that is related to Paintball-related Crotch Injuries.
5/18/2012 8:03:03 AM