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Quote# 87269

[Found in the "Reference" sections of Conservapedia pages.]

This page is proudly free from citations

To insist on finding a reference elsewhere for every statement made, as Wikipedia does, is to be a slave to hearsay. The authors of this page have enough confidence in their own insight not to lean on the opinions and assertions of others.

Andrew Schafly, Conservapedia 74 Comments [5/10/2012 3:30:10 AM]
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#1401145
Osiris

Andy Schafly is actually a devil worshiping homosexual who created Conservapedia to lure good Christians away and join him in sin.

Sorry Andy, but if I provide a source for this then I'll be another slave to hearsay and I have enough confidence in my own assertions.

5/10/2012 8:21:07 AM
#1401146
Big Jilm

Translation: our opinions are so insecure that we will not back up our bullshit.

Hey that's fine asshat, but don't expect anyone to ever take you seriously (something that you've probably never had to worry about).

5/10/2012 8:22:29 AM
#1401151
SpukiKitty

This guy takes Mom's brand of crazy & cranks it up to Chernobyl levels!

5/10/2012 8:40:59 AM
#1401159
Berny

Not having citations is the equivalent of pulling everything out of your arse.
Thanks for confirming that's what you do.

5/10/2012 9:03:43 AM
#1401160
Binky

Looks misattributed. The template and its addition to that page were done by one CPalmer.

5/10/2012 9:04:05 AM
#1401171
Often Partisan

HAAHAHAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAA This is why I bloody find Andy so funny.
We got told on my degree course the exact opposite: that citing strengthens your work rather than weakening it. An actual degree course from an actual respected institution Andy.

5/10/2012 9:55:16 AM
#1401178
Rabbit of Caerbannog

He's stupid and he's proud. Good for him.

5/10/2012 10:33:38 AM
#1401182
John

Opinions are like, well, you know. But facts, if they aren't made up out of thin air, need to have some basis, and the reader is entitled to know what that basis is so they can make a judgment as to how reliable they are. If someone tells me "Xerox made a profit last year", I'd like to know that it came from their annual report, or at least the Wall Street Journal, and not from somebody's brother-in-law's personal trainer before I trust it. Assertions without references - or worse yet, a refusal to even give references - would set off most peoples' personal BS meter.

5/10/2012 10:45:59 AM
#1401197
NoE

that explains a lot, doesn't it?

5/10/2012 11:26:55 AM
#1401208
breakerslion

A quick trip to rationalwiki turns up no mention of CPalmer. New parodist?

On a more amusing note:

Do you suppose there is an alternate universe wherein their Andy Schafly is a gay Secular Humanist who backs up his opinions with hard scientific evidence and almost always makes sense?

Would he wear a goatee?

Aside to Anon-e-Moose: You know an argument is not worth annihilating when you feel the urge to throw peanuts (or bananas) to the author.

5/10/2012 11:54:01 AM
#1401210
farpadokly

I tried this as an argument for not putting footnotes in my dissertation. Didn't work.

5/10/2012 12:00:24 PM
#1401231
Night Jaguar

Andy did not write this.

Andy has compared requiring citations to hearsay, but this particular bit was written by CPalmer. If you are going to submit a quote from Conservapedia do NOT assume it was written by Andy. There is crazy shit on Conservapedia written by other nuts or by parodists.

That being said, Andy told CPalmer this template was "very interesting".

5/10/2012 12:58:39 PM
#1401233
Old Viking

Andy, this is why we luvya!

5/10/2012 12:59:22 PM
#1401254
Tempus

The authors of this page have enough confidence in their own insight not to lean on the opinions and assertions of others.

Or verifiable data, for that matter.

5/10/2012 2:39:21 PM
#1401266
Papabear

Uh, well, better a "slave to hearsay" than the font of it.

5/10/2012 4:15:45 PM
#1401269
tranz2deep

Translation:

There doesn't have to be proof, I'm right, nanny nanny foo foo.


5/10/2012 4:24:48 PM
#1401270
tranz2deep

@Leighton Buzzard

ROFL (rolling the chair, but still)

5/10/2012 4:25:47 PM
#1401271
The Duelist

Because freedom from citation (of unbiased and/or peer-reviewed sources) is freedom from reality checks. Thanks, Andy. You've just admitted that your site is puerile bullshit and proud of it. Fundamentalism and conservatism in a nutshell.

5/10/2012 4:27:00 PM
#1401275
Xotan

Andy, even Jesus used quotes or attributions. (Sorry. I prefer the term more commonly used in the version of English I happen to speak.)

Do you remember when Jesus was in the synagogue (when's the last time YOU were in sysnagogue, Andy?) and read from Isaiah? That was quoting. If it was good enough for Jesus, it's not good enough for Andy.

@ Nicole

Thanks for the Conservipedia link. There are certainly enough references given on the page that opens. When is a reference not an attribution?

5/10/2012 4:44:04 PM
#1401284
Dewey Cheatham

@ TB Tabby, #1400982: Nope.

5/10/2012 5:42:34 PM
#1401296
Thinking Allowed


5/10/2012 6:10:03 PM
#1401297
N. De Plume

Hearsay? I do not think that means what you think it means.

5/10/2012 6:13:30 PM
#1401312
myheadhurts

Bwahahaha!

Phew, I really needed that.

5/10/2012 8:08:46 PM
#1401325
Mad_Jester

"Just because a reference can't be found for something doesn't mean it's not true" -CPalmer

Uhhh, actually, I think that's exactly what it means. True things have corroborative evidence, even things as simple as "The sky is blue" (Window, "Looking Up", 2012).

5/10/2012 8:42:54 PM
#1401332
Pikachukid

As a Mr C Palmer myself, should I be insulted by this?

5/10/2012 9:57:04 PM
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